# Forget the LS1 swap FD, FDSM is way cooler! - Update post 152! **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [August 19, 2009, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326 "2009-08-19T09:42:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/81 "2009-08-25T13:00:34Z")
Ur just a hipster fagmo and thought it would help street cred. Admit it.:loopie: ---
**Author:** ![khoveraki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/khoveraki/32/5131_2.png) [@khoveraki](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/khoveraki)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/82 "2009-08-25T13:44:43Z")
VW rabbits are really nice affordable dependable cars if you’re a fukkin fgt or a girl, fgt on topic: lol @ anyone thinking any one engine is “unreliable.” build build build. if you build a shitty LS1, it’ll blow up. if you build a shitty DSM, it’ll blow up, if you build a shitty rotary, it’ll blow up. The difference between the LS1 v DSM/13b, is that you’re not trying to squeeze HP out of a tiny low displacement block. if you have a 26b (4 rotor N/A) rotary, it’ll make 800rwhp reliably forever. if you boost a 2 rotor or DSM at 30+psi, of course it’s going to be less reliable. ---
**Author:** ![slow84ta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slow84ta/32/7265_2.png) [@slow84ta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slow84ta)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/83 "2009-08-25T13:49:26Z")
that thing moves pretty good ---
**Author:** ![Detective\_Coating](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/detective_coating/32/5319_2.png) [@Detective\_Coating](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Detective_Coating)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/84 "2009-08-25T13:57:38Z")
> [@sweet89s13](#): > > [HowStuffWorks - Learn How Everything Works!](http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/1995-to-1999-mitsubishi-eclipse-2.htm) > > just saying… Funny I’ve never had a problem with any of those things listed and a lot of those things listed are common problems with any car. Carbon build up on spark plugs resulting in the plugs needing changed, no shit?? ---
**Author:** ![sweet89s13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweet89s13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sweet89s13)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/85 "2009-08-25T16:56:07Z")
> [@95TSIAWD$](#): > > Funny I’ve never had a problem with any of those things listed and a lot of those things listed are common problems with any car. Carbon build up on spark plugs resulting in the plugs needing changed, no shit?? you really are ignorant, and can’t read. these postings are of manufacturers corrections and problems, such as bulletins and other problem postings. That calls for REDESIGNED plugs and new wires. You keep on with you basic diagnostics backyard mechanic. ---
**Author:** ![gravesdu\_99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gravesdu_99/32/5047_2.png) [@gravesdu\_99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gravesdu_99)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/86 "2009-08-25T17:44:53Z")
![http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb184/gravesdu_99/motivatora1d5c85273a5e360dd1bc.jpg](http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb184/gravesdu_99/motivatora1d5c85273a5e360dd1bc.jpg) ![http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb184/gravesdu_99/159617075_c3d1d81b0d.jpg](http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb184/gravesdu_99/159617075_c3d1d81b0d.jpg) ![http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb184/gravesdu_99/dsmcrankwalk3bd.jpg](http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb184/gravesdu_99/dsmcrankwalk3bd.jpg) ![http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb184/gravesdu_99/dsmjunk.jpg](http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb184/gravesdu_99/dsmjunk.jpg) ![http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb184/gravesdu_99/motivator856ecd7ce53e82430b76990-1.jpg](http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb184/gravesdu_99/motivator856ecd7ce53e82430b76990-1.jpg) ![http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb184/gravesdu_99/motivator6049058-1.jpg](http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb184/gravesdu_99/motivator6049058-1.jpg) :tantrum: ---
**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/87 "2009-08-25T17:49:40Z")
> [@sweet89s13](#): > > you really are ignorant, and can’t read. these postings are of manufacturers corrections and problems, such as bulletins and other problem postings. That calls for REDESIGNED plugs and new wires. You keep on with you basic diagnostics backyard mechanic. “In many instances these trouble spots are Technical Service Bulletins posted by the manufacturer, however, we have our own expert looking at additional vehicle problems. **Engine misfire:** Misfiring is common due to carbon on the spark plugs and is corrected by **replacing** the plugs and plug wires. (1995)” I dont see anything in there about a redesigned plug or a recall, looks just like a notification to me? You suck at math and english. EDIT: On a bigger note, Spark plugs OMG!! WHO THE FUCK CARES! go play in the rd or something. I havent read one thing from you that makes sense yet. ---
**Author:** ![sweet89s13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweet89s13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sweet89s13)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/88 "2009-08-25T18:06:30Z")
yea that whole page was all about spark plugs…see crank problems…you dsm guys deflect too much. i point out one thing you deflect to another…having problems admitting something? ---
**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/89 "2009-08-25T18:11:22Z")
:picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard: :picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard: :picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard: :picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard: :picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard: :picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard: :picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard: :picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard: :picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard: :picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard: ---
**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/90 "2009-08-25T18:18:05Z")
so we shoot down the idea of crankwalk being a huge problem, so then you bitch about spark plugs. now are we going to try to fight the crankwalk idea again? l;aghkf;cb swdfjasdof/asdfasdfsdalkfj I just rolled my head around on the keyboard and have made as much sense as you. ---
**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/91 "2009-08-25T18:21:20Z")
That car really does move… ---
**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/92 "2009-08-25T18:22:54Z")
> [@Carbonfiberhooded](#): > > That car really does move… Def. does… so looks like shep wont have his car out until next year for sure? Heard he had his evo at the shootout(or englishtown idk which) I still havent found an exact answer of whats going on with his car. have heard some stories but nothing in stone yet. ---
**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/93 "2009-08-25T18:32:12Z")
Yeah he was at the Shootout racing his evo. I usually see him at Buschur’s and ask him for updates but I missed him this year. Last I heard he was updating the cage for his own safety. That was last year though. ---
**Author:** ![Detective\_Coating](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/detective_coating/32/5319_2.png) [@Detective\_Coating](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Detective_Coating)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/94 "2009-08-25T18:56:50Z")
Shep was running consistent 9.95’s. Crazy quick for what he barely has done to it. I love how the drifter changed all his shit. He’s jealous of us, and should be. > [@sweet89s13](#): > > yea that whole page was all about spark plugs…see crank problems…you dsm guys deflect too much. i point out one thing you deflect to another…having problems admitting something? Ummm the only thing you focused on there is crank problems. Did you read all the other shit? What car doesn’t come across those problems? Seriously STFU. I’m sorry its not as perfect as whatever the fuck you drive. Maybe I should sit behind your exhaust and huff in all the fumes to be 1% as cool as you are. Then I’d be really smart just like you and know exactly what I’m talking about 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![nytalonTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nytalontsi/32/5399_2.png) [@nytalonTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nytalonTSi)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/95 "2009-08-25T19:01:30Z")
Gravesdu posted up Skrappa’s 1g on a tow truck lol. Crankwalk can lick my hairy middle eastern nuts. Its like the crackheads in Niagara Falls. I know CW sucks balls, my first dsm had it. But it was from all the dumb fucks who owned it before me. Still didn’t let it stop me from buying another '95 or 2g for that matter. Sweet89 probably got pwned by dsm many times before, reason for the hatred. Or owned one that wasn’t maintained, maybe didn’t have a motor. ---
**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/96 "2009-08-25T19:21:37Z")
> [@1G2GDSM](#): > > Crankwalk can lick my hairy middle eastern nuts. Its like the crackheads in Niagara Falls. :lol: What the hell does that have to do with crackheads?!!? ha ha! ---
**Author:** ![nytalonTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nytalontsi/32/5399_2.png) [@nytalonTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nytalonTSi)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/97 "2009-08-25T19:29:09Z")
Lol, idk every minute i see and listen to a crackhead. It rattles my brain just like when i hear or read about Crankwalk. ARRRRRRRGGGHH!!! ---
**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/98 "2009-08-25T19:31:30Z")
Not to stir up the hornets again but look a 4G63! ---
**Author:** ![nytalonTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nytalontsi/32/5399_2.png) [@nytalonTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nytalonTSi)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/99 "2009-08-25T19:36:58Z")
4g63 is so nice, people out there are swapping it into any vehicle. Only dumb people underrate it. ---
**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/100 "2009-08-25T20:19:08Z")
> [@Carbonfiberhooded](#): > > Not to stir up the hornets again but look a 4G63! > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHpEn8yPIy8](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHpEn8yPIy8) i challenge you to a race with this one: [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/b/9/b9754c4b9b2decaaeb1ad487dd0e51b49e3e679d.jpeg "4G63 Dragster - 7.77 at 171 MPH") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VVl0rElZuE) 36 psi is weaksauce for this car too. cant wait to see it make some more passes. cliffs: RWD 4g63 dragster running 7’s at 170+ what a moron for putting that crappy engine in there! [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326.md?page=6)