# Forget the LS1 swap FD, FDSM is way cooler! - Update post 152!

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [August 19, 2009, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326 "2009-08-19T09:42:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/101 "2009-08-25T20:41:16Z")

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> [@95TSIAWD$](#):
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> Shep was running consistent 9.95’s. Crazy quick for what he barely has done to it.
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> I love how the drifter changed all his shit. He’s jealous of us, and should be.
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> Ummm the only thing you focused on there is crank problems. Did you read all the other shit? What car doesn’t come across those problems? Seriously STFU. I’m sorry its not as perfect as whatever the fuck you drive. Maybe I should sit behind your exhaust and huff in all the fumes to be 1% as cool as you are. Then I’d be really smart just like you and know exactly what I’m talking about 🙂

just because your my roommate doesnt mean i wont be the first to point out in the 3 years of you owning a dsm your car has yet to run right or w/o a check engine light… does that mean its the car or you the owner 😉

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**Author:** ![gravesdu\_99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gravesdu_99/32/5047_2.png) [@gravesdu\_99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gravesdu_99)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/102 "2009-08-26T04:36:02Z")

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Its the driver or the mechanic. I raced a dsm running 11lbs of boost with a 60-1 in my stock s2000. From 25mph to 100mph, he beat me by 3/4 a car. :walter:

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**Author:** ![Jskrapper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jskrapper/32/7570_2.png) [@Jskrapper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jskrapper)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/103 "2009-08-26T05:23:40Z")

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> [@gravesdu\_99](#):
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> :tantrum:

lol, I was outta this thread until someone told me my motivational poster was posted here. For the record…I hit a tree root and ripped my exhaust off there in this pic. My car has been rather reliable for the amount of shitkicking it does.

But my sig is still true…

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**Author:** ![sweet89s13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweet89s13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sweet89s13)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/104 "2009-08-26T05:46:45Z")

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> [@alpha earl](#):
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> just because your my roommate doesnt mean i wont be the first to point out in the 3 years of you owning a dsm your car has yet to run right or w/o a check engine light… does that mean its the car or you the owner 😉

Thats funny. :rimshot:

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**Author:** ![sweet89s13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweet89s13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sweet89s13)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/105 "2009-08-26T05:51:33Z")

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> [@orzech](#):
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> well between devious, shott, myself, we have had probably 100 dsm’s and i havent heard a crankwalk experience yet.

just crusing through the stupidity, why have you guys owned 100 dsm’s? do you need that many for spare parts? Thats alot of reliable fast cars to burn through.

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**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/106 "2009-08-26T10:13:31Z")

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> [@sweet89s13](#):
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> just crusing through the stupidity, why have you guys owned 100 dsm’s? do you need that many for spare parts? Thats alot of reliable fast cars to burn through.

only a few of them were fast. the rest were just basic fixer uppers. some just for a part out, to get performance parts or other shit off the car for other builds.

for example, i just picked up a complete running 92 auto tsi awd with a 4 bolt lsd rear end to tear down and do an auto swap on my galant. its all part of the game. when you can buy a car, snag all the parts you want, sell the rest and still make money out of the deal.

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/107 "2009-08-26T10:25:22Z")

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> [@sweet89s13](#):
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> just crusing through the stupidity, why have you guys owned 100 dsm’s? do you need that many for spare parts? Thats alot of reliable fast cars to burn through.

i do the same thing with honda’s so does that mean that they are all junk and have crankwalk 😉

different strokes for different folks

i personally dont know anyone who has had good luck with a dsm, the 4 or 5 that my friends owned were parked/broken down alot more than they were running, but just because thats all ive seen doesnt mean there arent nice reliable ones out there

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**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/108 "2009-08-26T11:10:31Z")

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> [@alpha earl](#):
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> i do the same thing with honda’s so does that mean that they are all junk and have crankwalk 😉
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> different strokes for different folks
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> i personally dont know anyone who has had good luck with a dsm, the 4 or 5 that my friends owned were parked/broken down alot more than they were running, but just because thats all ive seen doesnt mean there arent nice reliable ones out there

and then i come in to play and scoop them up 🙂

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**Author:** ![sweet89s13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweet89s13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sweet89s13)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/109 "2009-08-26T11:22:57Z")

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> [@alpha earl](#):
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> i do the same thing with honda’s so does that mean that they are all junk and have crankwalk 😉

Honda’s don’t have that problem.:highfive:

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**Author:** ![Detective\_Coating](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/detective_coating/32/5319_2.png) [@Detective\_Coating](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Detective_Coating)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/110 "2009-08-26T11:40:16Z")

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> [@alpha earl](#):
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> just because your my roommate doesnt mean i wont be the first to point out in the 3 years of you owning a dsm your car has yet to run right or w/o a check engine light… does that mean its the car or you the owner 😉

its me as the shitty mechanic. not gonna lie. im still in the learning process of a lot of things. your never gonna learn a damn thing about your car if its running perfectly all the time. it ran right up until last summer when i tore it all apart. im sure not all of your cars ran perfect since you started to learn how to work on them either 😉 A cel could be as simple as an O2 sensor, plus with Link I can get rid of it so you never see it 😛

> [@sweet89s13](#):
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> Honda’s don’t have that problem.

Ah I forgot they’re invincible, thats why I’ve helped Brian with fixing quite a few of them and the countless ones he’s fixed by himself in the area.

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**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/111 "2009-08-26T12:09:48Z")

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> [@sweet89s13](#):
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> Honda’s don’t have that problem.:highfive:

:word: their only problems are being slow. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/112 "2009-08-26T12:54:24Z")

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> [@orzech](#):
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> :word: their only problems are being slow. 🙂

stock for stock your top model is slower than a top model integra??

anyways, again different strokes for different folks and that fd is nasty as hell

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**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/113 "2009-08-26T13:23:24Z")

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> [@sweet89s13](#):
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> I find it HILARIOUS that you dsm guys group together like a bunch of battered women, fighting like hell to defend your honor.

I’ll make fun of or prove anyone wrong that says stuff that is incorrect.

I have only had the Evo for a year, but have been going fast for years, so I clearly don’t care what platform I am in :nono:

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**Author:** ![gravesdu\_99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gravesdu_99/32/5047_2.png) [@gravesdu\_99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gravesdu_99)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/114 "2009-08-26T14:53:50Z")

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fast, reliable, cheap. DSM’s only get to pick one. Honda owners get all three. Seen a lot of crx’s go into the 12’s with $2500. Thats why a lot of people hate honda’s. It sucks when you spend a shit load of money on a car and a cheap ass honda with a homemade turbo kit goes door to door with you.

How about instead of buying a whole car for a rear end why not just buy the rear end and stop ripping “good cars” apart.

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**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/115 "2009-08-26T14:55:11Z")

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> [@gravesdu\_99](#):
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> fast, reliable, cheap. DSM’s only get to pick one. Honda owners get all three. Seen a lot of crx’s go into the 12’s with $2500.

Not on this site :lol:

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**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/116 "2009-08-26T15:37:46Z")

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> [@gravesdu\_99](#):
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> fast, reliable, cheap. DSM’s only get to pick one. Honda owners get all three. Seen a lot of crx’s go into the 12’s with $2500. Thats why a lot of people hate honda’s. It sucks when you spend a shit load of money on a car and a cheap ass honda with a homemade turbo kit goes door to door with you.
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> How about instead of buying a whole car for a rear end why not just buy the rear end and stop ripping “good cars” apart.

how about you learn to read? I am doing a 5 speed to automatic swap.

engine harness  
interior harness  
TCU  
transmission  
front axles  
LSD rear dif  
rear axles  
shifter assembly  
shift cable  
brake pedal  
prolly a few other things i am missing that i will need.

how many 12.xx sec and lower hondas are even on this forum(not including bill b/c hes a cheater and doesnt count haha j/k)

EDIT: i hate hondas because most of them are slow, riced out, loud fart can, and drive like asshats. not because they are some far superior starting platform and beat me on the streetz with nawzzz

EDIT2: we need a timeslip list and tab at the top section of the page. Pretty much 4g63 and LSx’s run the show here (with a couple exceptions).

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**Author:** ![94excivic](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94excivic/32/5263_2.png) [@94excivic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94excivic)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/117 "2009-08-26T15:41:16Z")

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My dsm is for sale for 2500,12 sec car and hasn’t left me stranded yet (owned for 13 months) ??

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**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/118 "2009-08-26T15:58:01Z")

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> [@94excivic](#):
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> My dsm is for sale for 2500,12 sec car and hasn’t left me stranded yet (owned for 13 months) ??

:carnut

even is primered/flat black like every honda out there. so if you want to come over to the darkside it might make the switch a little easier for you 🙂

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**Author:** ![gravesdu\_99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gravesdu_99/32/5047_2.png) [@gravesdu\_99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gravesdu_99)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/119 "2009-08-26T15:58:55Z")

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Didn’t know it took 100 dsm’s to get those kind of parts. And no I don’t read, bs will rot your mind. Must be you only look at turbo hondas that use DSM parts. Or else you would see more 12sec hondas.

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**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/120 "2009-08-26T16:02:04Z")

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wish i was 4 popped collars cool like this honda owner:

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