# Forget the LS1 swap FD, FDSM is way cooler! - Update post 152! **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [August 19, 2009, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326 "2009-08-19T09:42:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/121 "2009-08-26T16:03:04Z")
> [@gravesdu\_99](#): > > Didn’t know it took 100 dsm’s to get those kind of parts. And no I don’t read, bs will rot your mind. Must be you only look at turbo hondas that use DSM parts. Or else you would see more 12sec hondas. :retard::retard::retard::retard::retard::retard: IT TAKES 1… as i showed in my list. ---
**Author:** ![gravesdu\_99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gravesdu_99/32/5047_2.png) [@gravesdu\_99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gravesdu_99)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/122 "2009-08-26T16:04:58Z")
> [@orzech](#): > > wish i was 4 popped collars cool like this honda owner: > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1haVrGb2iQ](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1haVrGb2iQ) sorry, but you only get 3 out of five popped collars [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/2/b/2bccba85b7670b2e07b73f192cdc917d68b3e15e.jpeg "Unpimped Eclipse") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyWz6Uz0nmg) ---
**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/123 "2009-08-26T16:09:08Z")
404 fast hondas not found i give up… i think i can talk more sense into a block of cement. 7:12 punching out ---
**Author:** ![gravesdu\_99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gravesdu_99/32/5047_2.png) [@gravesdu\_99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gravesdu_99)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/124 "2009-08-26T16:11:17Z")
**4,880,000** results for broken down dsm ---
**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/125 "2009-08-26T16:15:25Z")
> [@orzech](#): > > EDIT2: we need a timeslip list and tab at the top section of the page. Pretty much 4g63 and LSx’s run the show here (with a couple exceptions). I would say that the mustang and lsx guys run the show. Bunch of 11 second dsm’s, but not may faster. Fucking American muscle, it works ☹ ---
**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/126 "2009-08-26T16:16:58Z")
> [@neonglh](#): > > I would say that the mustang and lsx guys run the show. Bunch of 11 second dsm’s, but not may faster. Fucking American muscle, it works ☹ yeah i knew i was forgetting another platform… fast mustangs :tup: couldnt think of it… how many 11 sec Nissans and hondas are on here 🙂 edit: so when you going to build up another neon (or do u still have one)? i always liked what you did with those. a run at NYIRP with galant vr4 vs. a 96 neon would be great (would love to see the crowds reaction with a couple grocery getters trapping 120+) ---
**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/127 "2009-08-26T16:20:53Z")
Ha. I just punched in “broken down dsm” in google and it showed 51,000 results. “Broken down Honda” on the other hand shows 434,000 results. You lose. ---
**Author:** ![94excivic](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94excivic/32/5263_2.png) [@94excivic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94excivic)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/128 "2009-08-26T17:22:49Z")
> [@Carbonfiberhooded](#): > > Ha. > > I just punched in “broken down dsm” in google and it showed 51,000 results. > > “Broken down Honda” on the other hand shows 434,000 results. > > You lose. :bigclap: ---
**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/129 "2009-08-26T17:29:20Z")
> [@orzech](#): > > edit: so when you going to build up another neon (or do u still have one)? i always liked what you did with those. a run at NYIRP with galant vr4 vs. a 96 neon would be great (would love to see the crowds reaction with a couple grocery getters trapping 120+) Hah, I would love to do that again, but I think the Evo is sucking up all of my efforts now. I am trying to move up the 2009 ET and MPH list as far as I can. I won’t stop until I am top 5! If I ever get SUPER bored, I may build a simple turbo kit for my neon I have now, since it’s so easy to do and I know the platform so well, but it’s nice just having a reliable neon for a dd, and a fun race car as two separate entities 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MrSmith](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mrsmith/32/5254_2.png) [@MrSmith](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MrSmith)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/130 "2009-08-26T19:02:52Z")
Cars with time and money under the hood run the show. That car is moving. Not much dsm left with a ford auto and strange rear end. I wonder what the car weighs. I dont know if you DSM people are delusional or what but DSMs were the laughing stock of the quick import guys around here for years. Back in the day all we had was homos in riced out NA pos ecplises and a bunch of slow basket case turbo cars. I better be careful in my Honda with no time slip next time I go cruising there might be a fast DSM lurking around the corner. ---
**Author:** ![gravesdu\_99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gravesdu_99/32/5047_2.png) [@gravesdu\_99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gravesdu_99)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/131 "2009-08-26T19:09:09Z")
> [@Carbonfiberhooded](#): > > Ha. > > I just punched in “broken down dsm” in google and it showed 51,000 results. > > “Broken down Honda” on the other hand shows 434,000 results. > > You lose. I punched in “broke down eclipse” because after all. Its still an eclispe. :2fingers: I’m glad that nyspeed represents all the fast cars around here. Thats like saying that because 100 dsm’s didn’t break that it’s just a stero-type. ---
**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/132 "2009-08-26T19:53:44Z")
> [@MrSmith](#): > > I dont know if you DSM people are delusional or what but DSMs were the laughing stock of the quick import guys around here for years. Back in the day all we had was homos in riced out NA pos ecplises and a bunch of slow basket case turbo cars. > I better be careful in my Honda with no time slip next time I go cruising there might be a fast DSM lurking around the corner. The main point of the video is that its 4G63 powered. Then we had all the haters come here and try to bash it all the while admitting it hauls ass. It makes no sense. I’ve heard about your turbo’d S2000 and past Hondas. You can at least say you drive/drove and worked on those cars. To the other people trying to bash in this thread, what are you driving right now??? Guessing Hondas?? I’d be amazed if they actually have anything more than a fart can and rimz. ---
**Author:** ![Detective\_Coating](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/detective_coating/32/5319_2.png) [@Detective\_Coating](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Detective_Coating)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/133 "2009-08-26T19:59:43Z")
There are a lot of fast reliable Honda’s in my area. Were they cheap? Fuck no! Ask Brian, he’s spent tons. And a lot of his friends. Tons of them are 400+whp. I have nothing against Honda’s but I don’t have respect for douche bags like the ones that came in here not realizing that our cars are just as fast and reliable as theirs are. Seems to be the 607 area has the fast ass Honda’s and are reliable and the Rochester/Buffalo area are were the fast reliable DSM’s are. Some people on here read one thing on a forum about a certain car being this or that and assume it goes for all of them. ---
**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/134 "2009-08-26T20:02:19Z")
> [@MrSmith](#): > > Cars with time and money under the hood run the show. > That car is moving. Not much dsm left with a ford auto and strange rear end. I wonder what the car weighs. > I dont know if you DSM people are delusional or what but DSMs were the laughing stock of the quick import guys around here for years. Back in the day all we had was homos in riced out NA pos ecplises and a bunch of slow basket case turbo cars. > I better be careful in my Honda with no time slip next time I go cruising there might be a fast DSM lurking around the corner. :headbang: ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/135 "2009-08-26T20:04:16Z")
> [@neonglh](#): > > Hah, I would love to do that again, but I think the Evo is sucking up all of my efforts now. I am trying to move up the 2009 ET and MPH list as far as I can. I won’t stop until I am top 5! > > If I ever get SUPER bored, I may build a simple turbo kit for my neon I have now, since it’s so easy to do and I know the platform so well, but it’s nice just having a reliable neon for a dd, and a fun race car as two separate entities 🙂 Can I hire you to work on mine? :snky: ---
**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/136 "2009-08-26T20:12:46Z")
> [@95TSIAWD$](#): > > There are a lot of fast reliable Honda’s in my area. Were they cheap? Fuck no! Ask Brian, he’s spent tons. And a lot of his friends. Tons of them are 400+whp. I have nothing against Honda’s but I don’t have respect for douche bags like the ones that came in here not realizing that our cars are just as fast and reliable as theirs are. Seems to be the 607 area has the fast ass Honda’s and are reliable and the Rochester/Buffalo area are were the fast reliable DSM’s are. Some people on here read one thing on a forum about a certain car being this or that and assume it goes for all of them. I don’t know. In years past Buffalo had a lot of fast Hondas and not too many fast DSMs. I’ll admit, it did take a little longer for the DSM guys to catch up, and there really are still not that many fast ones around these parts as interest in them has dropped. If Devious hadn’t gotten robbed, he’d be in the 9s this year. Neonpwr98 probably will be soon. Orzech would be an easy 10 if he would just hang on to one instead of selling them as soon as they crack a low 11. Jskrapper would be a low 11 if he’d go awd. eviltsi will be a low 10 second car when its done. There’s a few more in Rochester but I think thats about it. Oh, that OutlawStar guy has a mean dsm but he’s really not from around here. ---
**Author:** ![Jskrapper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jskrapper/32/7570_2.png) [@Jskrapper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jskrapper)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/137 "2009-08-27T07:08:19Z")
> [@MrSmith](#): > > I dont know if you DSM people are delusional or what but DSMs were the laughing stock of the quick import guys around here for years. Back in the day all we had was homos in riced out NA pos ecplises and a bunch of slow basket case turbo cars. Bwahaha 99% of the Honda guys fall into that category (not talking NYSPEED only). In all seriousness, 9 out of 10 Hondas that I see on the road are trash. Every brand has their smart guys and their retards. ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/138 "2009-08-27T07:54:02Z")
> [@Jskrapper](#): > > Bwahaha 99% of the Honda guys fall into that category (not talking NYSPEED only). > > In all seriousness, 9 out of 10 Hondas that I see on the road are trash. Every brand has their smart guys and their retards. its funny , i would say in my area about 50% of honda’s are riced out and slow and 99% of the dsm’s are riced out or think they are 10 second cars just because they have a fmic ive built plenty of 11 second (possibly even 10 second) capable cars and im on this forum but i guess i dont count statistically speaking i bet i could go out within the 100 mile radius of my area and find more faster/well built honda/acura’s than i would dsm’s and i bet its the same everywhere, hell the only dsm’s that i know of right now are broken down or still in the 14’s ---
**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/139 "2009-08-27T08:02:54Z")
> [@alpha earl](#): > > ive built plenty of 11 second (possibly even 10 second) capable cars and im on this forum but i guess i dont count How many have gone 11’s? ---
**Author:** ![Jskrapper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jskrapper/32/7570_2.png) [@Jskrapper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jskrapper)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326/140 "2009-08-27T09:03:50Z")
> [@alpha earl](#): > > its funny , i would say in my area about 50% of honda’s are riced out and slow and 99% of the dsm’s are riced out or think they are 10 second cars just because they have a fmic > > ive built plenty of 11 second (possibly even 10 second) capable cars and im on this forum but i guess i dont count > > statistically speaking i bet i could go out within the 100 mile radius of my area and find more faster/well built honda/acura’s than i would dsm’s and i bet its the same everywhere, hell the only dsm’s that i know of right now are broken down or still in the 14’s If you are the same person I am thinking of, I saw your car when I was working at Innovative. If I remember correctly it was running poorly due to a list of issues with the build (which is common). You had them all fixed up by the next time you stopped by and it looked good :tup: I also work with one of you teachers from ECC and he said you are a pretty smart kid. He also said your teg was above and beyond all the other honda kids there. I have nothing against you and you seem like one of the good guys, but from what he tells me…there is some bad stuff going on with other kids rides at that place. The reason why I get so upset i guess is, I have had my DSM since '98 and it has been a hell of a car the whole time. Traps a hair under 120 @ 19psi pump gas and street tires. Maitenance is minimum for a car with double factory hp#'s. My DD is a 91 Talon with 175K on the motor and she is running still…with only a head gasket job recently. Having worked at Innovative and being at NAPA, I see what type of shit is out there…and it’s in all brands. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/forget-the-ls1-swap-fd-fdsm-is-way-cooler-update-post-152/72326.md?page=8)