# Four cops murdered near Tacoma Washington **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 29, 2009, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661 "2009-11-29T10:15:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/61 "2009-12-01T12:41:41Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > You guys are assuming this cop just walked in a room and blasted this guy. Im sure it was hardly like that with this guy willing to kill and being armed. I am willing to bet this cop shot and killed the person because that was the best given option. I never assumed anything. Look back at my posts. Police carry weapons for a reason and I’m not saying this guy didn’t deserve to be shot. All I said was that it worries me whenever a suspect is shot and killed by police and the community-at-large applauds the effort blindly, without taking a moment to make-sure the right decision was made. Police are not infallible and not everyone suspected of a crime is guilty of said crime. All this is besides the argument that human life is sacred and should always be preserved. I have an inkling that many of those who are “happy” this guy is dead, would’ve liked to see him die for his crimes anyway (if convicted). We just bypassed a lot of “unnecessary” time and cost in bringing him to trial. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/62 "2009-12-01T12:43:48Z")
Meh whatever, I am just glad he is dead to be honest. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/63 "2009-12-01T13:02:17Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > Meh whatever, I am just glad he is dead to be honest. +1 ---
**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/64 "2009-12-01T13:28:14Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > Meh whatever, I am just glad he is dead to be honest. +2 ---
**Author:** ![burnt\_toast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/burnt_toast/32/7518_2.png) [@burnt\_toast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnt_toast)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/65 "2009-12-01T13:35:50Z")
Jesus, what the hell is with nyspeed lately and defending obvious criminals… This guy was clearly a piece of shit, walked a shitty road in life, and got what was surely coming to him. If you don’t want to get shot by the cops, don’t go shooting cops! ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/66 "2009-12-01T14:42:02Z")
you guys… but seriously… anyone know what’s up with Tiger? ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/67 "2009-12-01T14:52:00Z")
dude… $164 fine. ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/68 "2009-12-01T14:58:28Z")
Where do you see people defending this guy? ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/69 "2009-12-01T14:59:47Z")
> [@bing](#): > > you guys… but seriously… anyone know what’s up with Tiger? this ---
**Author:** ![BigEd88](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/biged88/32/5064_2.png) [@BigEd88](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigEd88)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/70 "2009-12-01T15:22:22Z")
> [@glitch](#): > > Where do you see people defending this guy? Not defending him exaclty, but certainly knocking law enforcement down a notch: > [@Beck](#): > > RIP > > Probably dirty fucking cops though. > [@Paulo](#): > > That’s what I was thinking. There had to have been something they did to make people want to kill them like that. > [@n20junkie](#): > > in this case tehre is ALOT more to the story. I would bet that at least one of these guys crossed some line. the other 3 might have just been in the wrong place at the wrong time. > [@Avatar](#): > > The same way a “suspect” is always deemed guilty after police but a bullet in them, these police must also be guilty, somehow. Right? > [@Avatar](#): > > **Suspect in police killings shot dead** > > Of course he was… > > I’d like to know how this went down were police had to resort to shooting and killing him. > [@Avatar](#): > > :tdown: to vigilanteism. I’m sorry but summary executions by police does not sit well with me. Not saying that is the case here, but the accused are presumed innocent until proven guilty for a reason. > [@Avatar](#): > > I get it, the guy was a scumbag. But I can’t support cops killing suspects. > [@Avatar](#): > > It’s just a slippery slope and we seem to already be sliding. > [@Avatar](#): > > You know as much about the event as I do. I also didn’t make any determination as to whether the police acted correctly in this case. I don’t have enough information and neither do you. To make assumptions, as you are, is idiotic. > > Also, as I said before, I’m not a lawyer and probably will never practice law. I am in law school and spent last summer prosecuting in the US Attorneys office so take that ambulance-chasing plaintiffs attorney image and ram it up your ass. > > I don’t know what you do, nor do I care, but you seem to have some deep psychological issues regarding the legal profession. Maybe you were molested as a child by Judge Wapner, I don’t know. Maybe you are just jealous that I’m so much better looking than you, I don’t know. In any case, you come off looking childish and ignorant. Relax. I always look at how “Bucky” was handled after he was shooting police, cops hold that trigger in these situation longer than others because, sadly, its assumed by all that they want instant vengeance and to seek their own justice. I’m sure some do, but most don’t want their careers to end over some pussy with a gun. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/71 "2009-12-01T16:25:59Z")
Other than my first quoted comment, which was sarcasm, I was not knocking the actions of police. I am only questioning the actions and trying to inject some level thinking in an obvious emotional topic. If I come off as anything different, it’s because I have personal experience with the groupthink that goes on in law enforcement. I appreciate and respect the folks in law enforcement, but they are people the same as us and susceptible to mistakes in judgment. That is why we have courts. You have to admit, the fact a suspected cop-killer ends up getting shot and killed by the police pursuing him seems a bit ripe for investigation. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/72 "2009-12-01T17:27:07Z")
ppfff… BigEd… is that ALLLL you could find? dig up some dirt on tiger… THEN i’ll be impressed. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/73 "2009-12-01T17:34:31Z")
Poor Tiger. All these years being so good at avoiding the press he never learned how to handle them when you fuck up and end up in the news. Without that lame ass lie he came up with this would have been out of the news the day after it happened. ---
**Author:** ![nappy1380](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nappy1380/32/7502_2.png) [@nappy1380](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nappy1380)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/74 "2009-12-01T17:56:16Z")
> [@Avatar](#): > > Other than my first quoted comment, which was sarcasm, I was not knocking the actions of police. I am only questioning the actions and trying to inject some level thinking in an obvious emotional topic. > > If I come off as anything different, it’s because I have personal experience with the groupthink that goes on in law enforcement. I appreciate and respect the folks in law enforcement, but they are people the same as us and susceptible to mistakes in judgment. That is why we have courts. > > You have to admit, the fact a suspected cop-killer ends up getting shot and killed by the police pursuing him seems a bit ripe for investigation. [/QUOTE] How is it ripe for investigation? I see very little, if anything, supporting that statement. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/75 "2009-12-01T18:11:53Z")
:picard: I’m done here ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/76 "2009-12-01T18:23:39Z")
**TIGER - UPPERCUT** ![http://www.cadernox.com.br/images/posts/sagat%20_01.jpg](http://www.cadernox.com.br/images/posts/sagat%20_01.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![nappy1380](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nappy1380/32/7502_2.png) [@nappy1380](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nappy1380)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/77 "2009-12-01T18:33:36Z")
> [@Avatar](#): > > :picard: I’m done here You can picard all you want. I’ll wait for the logic. A convicted felon with multiple violent convictions committed 4 premeditated murders 48 hours ago. He evaded arrest and was on the run. The man was believed to be armed and undoubtedly dangerous. The officer draws his gun (standard protocol) and gives basic commands to the suspect. The suspect, with the above history, makes a sudden movement that could be and should be taken as reaching for a weapon. The officer made the correct decision. Obvously an investigator will be done as with any shooting. But this is ripe for investigation based on what again? ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/78 "2009-12-01T19:45:04Z")
> [@nappy1380](#): > > You can picard all you want. I’ll wait for the logic. > > A convicted felon with multiple violent convictions committed 4 premeditated murders 48 hours ago. He evaded arrest and was on the run. The man was believed to be armed and undoubtedly dangerous. > > The officer draws his gun (standard protocol) and gives basic commands to the suspect. The suspect, with the above history, makes a sudden movement that could be and should be taken as reaching for a weapon. > > The officer made the correct decision. Obvously an investigator will be done as with any shooting. But this is ripe for investigation based on what again? The man was a suspect. It’s been reported that there were at least three other people who may have been involved in the shooting. Are you 100% sure he was the trigger-man? Police have yet to ascribe a motive. A determination of premeditation, while reasonable, is premature. > The man was believed to be armed and undoubtedly dangerous. The above phrase is incongruous. You can’t have an absence of doubt in an allegation or belief. Show me the report that says he had a weapon on his person. Keep in mind the legal definition of possession. One doesn’t need to have an item on their person in order to possess it. Finally, it is ripe for investigation because it is instances, like this, where things tend to get out of control… and for all of the above reasons. Look, I’m not trying to defend this guy. He obviously is a scumbag and I couldn’t care less that he is dead. I’m just worried that the next time some asshole matching my description shoots some cop, there’s a chance I could catch a bullet because a vigilante won’t bother to think twice. We just don’t shoot people in America for what we _think_ they did. If the guy truly had the gun on his person and was about to shoot it out with another police officer, then I’m glad he ate lead. edit: It’s too easy to jump to conclusions here. What if he wasn’t the guy who did the shooting? What if he didn’t have a gun on him when he was shot? What if the police officer made a mistake and acted rashly because he was, understandably, emotionally charged? What if we’re all just batteries powering some massive computer program? ---
**Author:** ![BigEd88](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/biged88/32/5064_2.png) [@BigEd88](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigEd88)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/79 "2009-12-02T16:02:13Z")
isn’t it true that anytime a Police Officer fires his weapon there is an investigation to see if it was an “in policy” shooting or something like that? Doesn’t matter that situation, some more obvious than otheres, but all are checked out. ---
**Author:** ![bpipe95](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bpipe95/32/7294_2.png) [@bpipe95](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bpipe95)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661/80 "2009-12-03T16:28:52Z")
here is a picture of the cop killer in his rightful place. ![http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=256dc316bd42b4fe6d4e2df26331b68c&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.btls.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F1634.jpg](http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=256dc316bd42b4fe6d4e2df26331b68c&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.btls.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F1634.jpg) this picture was taken by a LEO on the scene, and sent to a radio show i listen too. I don’t think it will be shown to many places. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/four-cops-murdered-near-tacoma-washington/76661.md?page=5)