# Fraud on Ebay using Dyno chart belonging to JSKrapper (Innovative) \[threads merged\]
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [December 4, 2005, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283 "2005-12-04T21:13:50Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Boarderx192](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boarderx192)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2005, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/1 "2005-12-04T21:13:50Z")
Saw this while looking on Ebay. Anyone know whos car this is?
[http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-Mitsubishi-GSX-325-AWHP-Eclipse-Hot-Look\_W0QQitemZ4595616681QQcategoryZ6352QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-Mitsubishi-GSX-325-AWHP-Eclipse-Hot-Look_W0QQitemZ4595616681QQcategoryZ6352QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
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### Author:  [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2005, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/2 "2005-12-04T21:26:16Z")
mine :snky:
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### Author:  [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2005, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/3 "2005-12-04T21:28:44Z")
That area code is down near the city if i remember correctly…but I should buy it and go 10s on only 325 hp :tspry:
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### Author:  [@AlbinoMonkeyRat](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AlbinoMonkeyRat)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2005, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/4 "2005-12-04T21:39:30Z")
engine looks really dirty for $14k of mods…
pretty sweet though. :tup:
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### Author:  [@neurokinetik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neurokinetik)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2005, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/5 "2005-12-04T21:47:31Z")
> [@2TurboZ](#):
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> but I should buy it and go 10s on only 325 hp :tspry:
Must be that _new_ math… 😉
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### Author:  [@AlbinoMonkeyRat](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AlbinoMonkeyRat)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2005, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/6 "2005-12-04T21:50:42Z")
^ probably dyno’d 325 without the bottle, ran a 10 with it. ??clarification??
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### Author:  [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2005, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/7 "2005-12-04T22:01:20Z")
Anyone notice that the Dyno is for a 1g FWD car, that was done at Innovative, but the car is an AWD 2g and Innovative obviously cannot do AWD dyno?
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### Author:  [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2005, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/8 "2005-12-04T22:09:12Z")
ohhh sitttt
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### Author:  [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2005, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/9 "2005-12-04T22:43:03Z")
Whoever it was has sold 2 modded GSX’s as their last 2 auctions…someone’s :snky:
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### Author:  [@AKA-FERRARI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AKA-FERRARI)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2005, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/10 "2005-12-04T22:50:08Z")
thats funny 325whp with no fmic, and i thought a 2g bov couldnt hold much more than stock boost…thay shouldnt be sellin it cuz i aint buyin it :bsflag:
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### Author:  [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2005, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/11 "2005-12-04T22:53:32Z")
buy it, dyno it, sue him for fraud, false advertisement, etc etc… then say you went to the track and placed a “legal” wager on the race of 10k and sue for punitive damages cuz it didnt run in the 10’s… i hate people sometimes…
mike… did you ever dyno that car???
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### Author:  [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2005, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/12 "2005-12-04T23:03:48Z")
> **_Car puts out 325 AWDHP to the wheels. SICK!!!_**
SICK!!! IT’S SOOOOOOOO SICK!!!
rofl.
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### Author:  [@Scott](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Scott)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2005, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/13 "2005-12-04T23:14:12Z")
Holy shit, thats Jskrappers dyno.
That guys a fraud. Someone should say something to the officials on ebay
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### Author:  [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2005, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/14 "2005-12-04T23:20:52Z")
> [@Scott](#):
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> Holy shit, thats Jskrappers dyno.
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> That guys a fraud. Someone should say something to the officials on ebay
yea, and the copy of the dynograph that skrapper posted on here is a photocopy of the print out, but this dude has a screen capture right off mikes dyno computer
wonder who he is ?
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### Author:  [@bamfer9duce](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bamfer9duce)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2005, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/15 "2005-12-04T23:44:07Z")
This should be good.
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### Author:  [@91CRXSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91CRXSI)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2005, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/16 "2005-12-04T23:55:59Z")
dun dun dun… this could be interesting
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### Author:  [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2005, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/17 "2005-12-05T00:07:45Z")
> [@Bigairskier1580](#):
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> Anyone notice that the Dyno is for a 1g FWD car, that was done at Innovative, but the car is an AWD 2g and Innovative obviously cannot do AWD dyno?
> **_The factory 2.0 liter motor was swapped for a 6-bolt 1G that was built and installed by speed style motorwerks. The head is a heavily ported 1G head that is matched to the 1G Bottom end. All new components were used in the motor, including new oil and water pumps, and top of the line aftermarket motor internals. The motor has around 5400miles on it,all of which are all street miles_**
try reading the whole thing before u make judgements, dunno wats up with awd tho
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### Author:  [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2005, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/18 "2005-12-05T00:12:46Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> [/i][/color][/size][/i][/b]
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> try reading the whole thing before u make judgements, dunno wats up with awd tho
yua, well unless skrapper didnt build his own engine, and then this dude stole skrappers engine to install it in this car, that dyno graph still has NO REASON to be on that auction
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### Author:  [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2005, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/19 "2005-12-05T01:07:30Z")
> [@neurokinetik](#):
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> Must be that _new_ math… 😉
Nah it’s those state of the art aerodynamics. How else could a 325 HP GSX break the 10 second barrier? Serious wind tunnel testing yo.
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### Author:  [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2005, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/20 "2005-12-05T01:16:36Z")
> [@Rx3](#):
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> Nah it’s those state of the art aerodynamics. How else could a 325 HP GSX break the 10 second barrier? Serious wind tunnel testing yo.
you dumb ass … thats not it
its because the car is a dohc … and since d comes before s (sohc) in the alphabet, a dohc car of the same hp as a soch car will get to the end of the track faster because it has ALPHABETICAL advantage
325 doch hp \> 325 sohc
and then obviously, 325 hp from a pushrod car is un-possible, because they hadnt invented triple digit numbers when pushrod engines were first designed, so cam-in-block arangements are limited to a max of 99 hp …
jeesh
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