# Fraud on Ebay using Dyno chart belonging to JSKrapper (Innovative) \[threads merged\]

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [December 4, 2005, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283 "2005-12-04T21:13:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jrex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jrex/32/7232_2.png) [@jrex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jrex)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/61 "2005-12-07T12:24:25Z")

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You can see GS-T on the dyno sheet.

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**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/62 "2005-12-07T12:27:56Z")

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> [@HotRodKid](#):
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> a gst WOULD be 2wd …

Exactly, the auction says GSX AWD, Inn Tune only has a 2WD dyno.

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**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/63 "2005-12-07T12:28:12Z")

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You should also tell him that you spoke to the owner of Innovative and he knows all the GS-Ts he’s dyno’d and that car isn’t one of them!!

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**Author:** ![RobHimself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RobHimself](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobHimself)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/64 "2005-12-07T12:34:58Z")

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> [@HotRodKid](#):
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> a gst WOULD be 2wd …

Yup and the ebay auction is selling a GSX.

Edit… Nevermind someone already made my point.

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/65 "2005-12-07T12:38:31Z")

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> [@RobHimself](#):
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> Yup and the ebay auction is selling a GSX.
> 
> Edit… Nevermind someone already made my point.

he previously sold a gst … which is why his response is

> ACTUALLY THAT WAS MY GST DYNO SHEET ON THE WRONG CAR

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**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/66 "2005-12-07T12:47:03Z")

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> [@HotRodKid](#):
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> he previously sold a gst … which is why his response is

Oh gotcha. Even if that was his dyno sheet thats a pretty big oversight to put a car with a totally different drivetrain on the auction.

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/67 "2005-12-07T12:55:16Z")

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lol. anytime i see an auction where the high bidder is kept private i get concerned…

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/68 "2005-12-07T12:58:44Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> lol. anytime i see an auction where the high bidder is kept private i get concerned…

trhe guy had to have been getting tons of emails from people asking why the dyno graph basicly said FWD on it

plus his description sounds shady … he says something like “top notch agftermarket internals” but lists mitsu replacement pistons …

id kep the high bidder private too

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**Author:** ![Juan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a698b9/32.png) [@Juan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Juan)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/69 "2005-12-07T13:03:24Z")

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:lol: what a ignorant dumb ass

pwn3d!

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**Author:** ![Jskrapper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jskrapper/32/7570_2.png) [@Jskrapper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jskrapper)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/70 "2005-12-07T13:10:58Z")

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this is my dyno sheet in origional form with my 275 hp pull from 12/23/04 AND my 323 hp pull this summer…

Mikes real file…  
 ![http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/Jskrapper/Skrapper9.gif](http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/Jskrapper/Skrapper9.gif)

My picture of Mikes printout…

 ![http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/Jskrapper/Joeinnovative.jpg](http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/Jskrapper/Joeinnovative.jpg)

He is full of shit.

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/71 "2005-12-07T13:13:43Z")

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how did this guy get the version he has ?

ive only seen you post the picture of the print out

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/72 "2005-12-07T13:20:44Z")

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> In a message dated 12/7/2005 4:17:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [MariasGiftsRus@aol.com](mailto:MariasGiftsRus@aol.com) writes:  
> G. Get a life buddy. There is more things to do then check out things. Dont waste my time

my reply email

> ill take that as an admission of guilt 🙂  
> .

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**Author:** ![Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jon)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/73 "2005-12-07T13:38:37Z")

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lol he re-listed it and no more dyno pics :lol:

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**Author:** ![MrFliGSR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mrfligsr/32/3069_2.png) [@MrFliGSR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MrFliGSR)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/74 "2005-12-07T13:44:18Z")

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Can’t believe that shit!

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**Author:** ![1sik\_bmw](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1sik_bmw/32/7341_2.png) [@1sik\_bmw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1sik_bmw)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/75 "2005-12-07T13:57:31Z")

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On his other auction (for the black ecl. with the tacky red engine comp.) it says the car was dyno’d at PAMPENA MOTORSPORTS.

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**Author:** ![bladez](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bladez/32/7237_2.png) [@bladez](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bladez)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/76 "2005-12-07T14:08:06Z")

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haha classic ownage, i love it :tup:

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**Author:** ![Juan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a698b9/32.png) [@Juan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Juan)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/77 "2005-12-07T14:10:13Z")

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> [@HotRodKid](#):
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> my reply email  
> .

🤣

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/78 "2005-12-07T14:12:46Z")

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> [@98teg](#):
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> 🤣

lol … the truth sucks

and i know he read the reply, as were both on aol and i can check what time he opened the email at … never replied to my last email :gotme:

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**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/79 "2005-12-07T14:28:51Z")

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:retard: OWNAGE:whip::nite:

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**Author:** ![Rx3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rx3/32/7194_2.png) [@Rx3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rx3)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fraud-on-ebay-using-dyno-chart-belonging-to-jskrapper-innovative-threads-merged/5283/80 "2005-12-07T15:01:51Z")

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Someone should report him to ebay and get his account pulled. Someone like Mike, or Skrapper :shrug:

Someone should check his other ads and call the companies that he has dynocharts from and confirm those too. I’ll bet they are all frauds (i.e. not his dynocharts).

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