# From a Welfare Kid

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [February 15, 2007, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607 "2007-02-15T10:31:08Z")
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### Author: ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/1 "2007-02-15T10:31:08Z")

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This is an interesting article, and supports that we do need to spend more money reaching out to those less fortunite kids

> [@http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/anc/276896054.html](#):
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> Over the past couple of months, I have noticed many, many posts concerning white trash and welfare people.
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> I am a welfare kid. Oldest of 5 children, mother has a 9th grade education. She married my father at 15 (he was 21), had me a year later at age 16, and so forth. Father has an 8th grade education. Dear dad took off after 10 years of marriage - have heard I have several unknown siblings out there somewhere. No, he never once paid a penny of child support. He just left.
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> Mom’s family is from Missouri - you guessed it, trailer parks, shacks, too many people stuffed into small houses with too many animals, bugs and parasites. We were the runny-nosed kids in worn-out clothes people looked down on to make themselves feel better.
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> After dear dad took off, mom supported us by working in various nursing homes as a nurse’s aid or as a laundry person. Other jobs she had were motel maid, waitress, phone sales, cleaning taverns after closing, etc.
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> We have been homeless, living in a borrowed car, eating at missions when we were in larger towns/cities. Oh, did I mention the places we lived? Before I was 18, we lived in Missouri, Okalahoma, Kansas, Arkansas, California, Utah, South Dakota and Oregon. We rarely spent more than 6 months in the same place, same school district, usually it was a completely different town.
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> We stood in the free cheese lines, went to the church clothes closets, accepted the Thanksgiving and Christmas kindnesses of strangers with as much dignity as possible. We endured sermons from all the different churches that my mom tried to get help from. Rarely did the help come.
> 
> Did we like it? Not a danged minute of it. The sympathetic looks from the do-gooders who pretended to care. Those who expected us to fall at their feet because they brought us a turkey.
> 
> Am I grateful? Yes. To my mother. She found ways to feed us when there was no food. When I was a bitchy teenager refusing to stoop so low as to “go begging” as I called it, she went alone or with one of my brothers. I was ashamed that we were so poor. Teenagers hate being different, no matter what they tell you.
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> As a young teen, I babysat for money to buy a pair of “cool” jeans so I could be something like the other kids. I wore that stupid pair of jeans until they wore out and then bought another pair.
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> The people I remember most from childhood are those who looked upon us as people and not a cause. Those who sat with us, laughed with us, just talked with us. Those who looked beyond the ragged clothing and to the people we were. My brothers were unruly at times - guess what, mom was tired. She didn’t always have the energy to do it all.
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> Mom made sure we could all read, spell and write well. She knew we would be judged by that. She also made sure we had books no matter where we were. libraries are free. Those books became escapes from lives we could not deal with sometimes.
> 
> All but one of us dropped out of high school. With the moving around, it was almost impossible. We received GEDs instead.
> 
> Today, all we kids are grown. I am completing my Bachelors. My sister has almost completed her Masters. My three brothers work as a computer tech, sheetrock hauler and a med aide in a nursing home. I don’t have children but my siblings have given me nine wonderful nephews and nieces.  
> Growing up, we learned early on that all we really had was one another. We currently all live within 5 miles of one another. When I count my best friends, I count my brothers and sister first.
> 
> We live far away from my mother’s family. They are the very definition of dysfuntion. Not good people to be around in any situation.
> 
> I’m not sure how it happened, but none of us were ever in jail, ever addicted to anything more than nicotine. According to some statistics and to most people’s prejudice on this board, we should all be white trash meth addicts.
> 
> For those of you who look down upon those little kids with hungry eyes and brave faces, reach out to them instead of judging. It can really make a difference.
> 
> Thanks for reading.

After saying what he has stated, why should we not spend more on education, if that is what keeps these kids off of welfare??

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### Author: ![SkunkApe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skunkape/32/7575_2.png) [@SkunkApe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SkunkApe)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/2 "2007-02-15T10:36:51Z")

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Wow… very good read

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### Author: ![Justin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin/32/7459_2.png) [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/3 "2007-02-15T11:42:03Z")

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Maybe if they spent less money moving state to state they could have afforded to live in one place for some length of time. What sense does it make to move 100’s of miles away when you could just move a few miles away in the same town and not have to pay to transport your big welfare family around. Nice sob story but this type of thing happens all the time and does not surprise me any. :tup: to him for not turning out to be a complete scumbag but I’m sure he is still far from normal.

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### Author: ![wickedcivy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wickedcivy/32/7295_2.png) [@wickedcivy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wickedcivy)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/4 "2007-02-15T11:51:52Z")

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diamond in the rough unfortunately…

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### Author: ![FightinMike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@FightinMike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FightinMike)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/5 "2007-02-15T11:57:21Z")

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maybe he/you should spend less time trolling Craigslist

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### Author: ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/6 "2007-02-15T12:06:13Z")

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[quote=“FightinMike,post:5,topic:24607"”]

maybe he/you should spend less time trolling Craigslist

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Or maybe you could understand the concept that spending more money to educate people that the end result would be us saving money from not having such a high welfare cost, also with more education they would not come out like you. If you are insinuating that I am a welfare kid you are retarded

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### Author: ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/7 "2007-02-15T12:13:18Z")

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Forgive my ignorance, but isn’t public grade school free? Well, not free, but paid for by taxes so that as long as you’re a resident your kids go for free?

He and his family were successful because they CHOSE the higher road. You can’t force people to become educated.

That being said, I am in favor of more money for higher learning. If a “welfare kid” chooses to complete grade school but can’t afford to go on, then the best thing we could do for them and for the country is make college available.

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### Author: ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/8 "2007-02-15T12:21:58Z")

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[quote=“BikerFry,post:7,topic:24607"”]

Forgive my ignorance, but isn’t public grade school free? Well, not free, but paid for by taxes so that as long as you’re a resident your kids go for free?

He and his family were successful because they CHOSE the higher road. You can’t force people to become educated.

That being said, I am in favor of more money for higher learning. If a “welfare kid” chooses to complete grade school but can’t afford to go on, then the best thing we could do for them and for the country is make college available.

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In alot of areas 1-6 are sort of, there still are fees etc associated with it, some clame that 7-12 are free, but I do not feel that they are when books, lab fees, etc total more than $700 a semester, and for a fact that there are those that can not afford that. So there kids drop out and basically end up in limbo/doing something else that they shouldn’t

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### Author: ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/9 "2007-02-15T12:25:15Z")

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I went to a public school and never purchased books for 7-12. They were provided by the school. Nor were there “lab fees”.

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### Author: ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/10 "2007-02-15T12:25:49Z")

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[quote=“66impalass,post:8,topic:24607"”]

In alot of areas 1-6 are sort of, there still are fees etc associated with it, some clame that 7-12 are free, but I do not feel that they are when books, lab fees, etc total more than $700 a semester, and for a fact that there are those that can not afford that. So there kids drop out and basically end up in limbo/doing something else that they shouldn’t

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That’s a good point. I forgot about all the fees. I can see how that could easily kill it for a kid who’s only there of his own choice anyhow.

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### Author: ![wickedcivy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wickedcivy/32/7295_2.png) [@wickedcivy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wickedcivy)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/11 "2007-02-15T12:26:25Z")

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dont you have to pay school taxes to use the public schools…

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### Author: ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/12 "2007-02-15T12:27:41Z")

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[quote=“JayS,post:9,topic:24607"”]

I went to a public school and never purchased books for 7-12. They were provided by the school. Nor were there “lab fees”.

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Where did you go to school? I don’t know for sure, but it seems like a low tax, high population school (read: city) wouldn’t have the money to provide all books and/or lab equipment.

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### Author: ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/13 "2007-02-15T12:30:16Z")

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I went to school in Frewsburg, NY. No fees for anything I was aware of. Worst was the options field trips and things like Sr. trip. Books were provided too.

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### Author: ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/14 "2007-02-15T12:35:03Z")

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My school didn’t have a cost as well as Brent said, however as far as I know. When you got property taxes your school taxes were included in that. I know every year my mom complained about “damn school taxes went up this year as well”

Since we were in a different county than our school we paid taxes to a different school than our own.

Hornell high school is shit. So I refused to go there despite being in the city.

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### Author: ![Afrank45](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/afrank45/32/5021_2.png) [@Afrank45](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Afrank45)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/15 "2007-02-15T12:36:50Z")

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[quote=“BikerFry,post:12,topic:24607"”]

Where did you go to school? I don’t know for sure, but it seems like a low tax, high population school (read: city) wouldn’t have the money to provide all books and/or lab equipment.

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for the kids who were taking ap classes there were fees etc. thus for those who truly are smart and trying to better themselves it is difficult. I have never been on welfare but living in a low income house i had to write a letter in highschool to the given college to waive the fee for my classes:gotme:maybe im baised having dealt with a situation like this when i was younger but the problem isnt the lack of funding for schools,etc its the fact that like this person stated when the parent isnt around to keep their kids ass in line they are the ones who become poor members of society…:tup: to this guy for keeping his shit together

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### Author: ![FightinMike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@FightinMike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FightinMike)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/16 "2007-02-15T12:48:51Z")

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If you think this guy had it “bad” you are mistaken. Sure he lived like shit, but his mom never pimped his 8 year old ass out for crack to feed her habit. I feel no sympathy for him, instead of getting on your high horse and posting to a forum, why dont you go see and help some people who are really hard up. There’s plenty here in Buffalo. Personally, i could give a fuck less poor people suck.

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### Author: ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/17 "2007-02-15T12:49:39Z")

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[quote=“JayS,post:9,topic:24607"”]

I went to a public school and never purchased books for 7-12. They were provided by the school. Nor were there “lab fees”.

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I went to public school too, had to pay that a semester

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### Author: ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/18 "2007-02-15T13:02:46Z")

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That is why I believe in a license to bare children.

It’s shouldn’t be society’s job to take care of children of welfare, it should be society’s job to see that children aren’t being born into these situations to begin with.

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### Author: ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/19 "2007-02-15T13:04:31Z")

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[quote=“JayS,post:9,topic:24607"”]

I went to a public school and never purchased books for 7-12. They were provided by the school. Nor were there “lab fees”.

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werd…

also, my parents would of whooped my ass if I told them I was dropping out of school. They’d bitch and complain about taxes, but would never of let me drop out because they had to pay 20.00 for a field trip and misc stuff

> **That is why I believe in a license to bare children.**

agreed… honestly, that is where I place 90% of the blame

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### Author: ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2007, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/from-a-welfare-kid/24607/20 "2007-02-15T13:14:40Z")

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[quote=“BikerFry,post:12,topic:24607"”]

Where did you go to school? I don’t know for sure, but it seems like a low tax, high population school (read: city) wouldn’t have the money to provide all books and/or lab equipment.

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Small school in an even smaller town. Not from around here originally.

[quote=“fairgentleman Z,post:18,topic:24607"”]

That is why I believe in a license to bare children.

It’s shouldn’t be society’s job to take care of children of welfare, it should be society’s job to see that children aren’t being born into these situations to begin with.

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:tup: Or how about just not allowing a 21 year old to marry a 15 year old, as was done in this story. If your state wants to allow shit like that you shouldn’t be surprised when you get a bunch of welfare babies.

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