# Front and rear turn signals on the sides debate **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [July 28, 2006, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400 "2006-07-28T14:14:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![a\_ahmed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/a_ahmed/32/5411_2.png) [@a\_ahmed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/a_ahmed)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2006, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/1 "2006-07-28T14:14:05Z")
okay so heatw (ted) and i got into a debate here lol First of all I want to shave off the rear turn signal crap cause i think its gay and we in north America get it and i dont like it. To me the front is orangeish ‘amber’, but the rear is red (except if light is shone through it then it gathers orangish characteristic). Ted says that the front and rear are absolutely EXACTLY the same even if held side by side. You tell me… he says i’m color f’en blind, and talks about him being fine art student, and well i tell im a media grad (and for digital u have to go through traditional, color theory and all the other gay shit). I can see a difference in color on my car that the rear look more redish than the front. In fact, if i take it to photoshop, the values are in the red while the front is in the yellow/orangish. They clearly to me look f’en different. ---
**Author:** ![lewtz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@lewtz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lewtz)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2006, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/2 "2006-07-28T14:16:55Z")
they’re called sidemarkers sir, if thats what your trying to describe here because I dont think anyone can understand you clearly. ---
**Author:** ![a\_ahmed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/a_ahmed/32/5411_2.png) [@a\_ahmed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/a_ahmed)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2006, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/3 "2006-07-28T14:18:56Z")
thanks dvstr, the north american version has them the way they are, in europe and japan and everywhere elsewhere they are not there (well the rear anyways, front are just dif, especially in europe). He says they are EXACTLY the same thing, I say they are not because clearly they look different in apperance, the rear is darkish red compared to the front, hence no matter what it’s not the same the rear is darker. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2006, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/4 "2006-07-28T14:25:04Z")
rear red, front orange, they also mount differently. ---
**Author:** ![a\_ahmed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/a_ahmed/32/5411_2.png) [@a\_ahmed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/a_ahmed)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2006, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/5 "2006-07-28T14:28:12Z")
![http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1803/p1010040e4op.jpg](http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1803/p1010040e4op.jpg) ![http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9786/p1010037ee5ak.jpg](http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9786/p1010037ee5ak.jpg) now he’s telling me i dont understand how light works and that i dont understand physics. Now this is being BS. Suddenly I don’t know are we going to talk about the reflection and refraction properties of the damn plastic? I said if its due to angle, in the way the light is being shone through it, then how come the front never frickin appears red to me? If it’s just an illusion? So I’m less, of an artist tand have no clue in science. So if it’s illusion how come I never see the front red? Whatever angle I’m from if I park my car the rear is red if not ‘redder’. Second, if I take photographs as many as I want and measure the color values I get red values digitally. I’m not f’en color blind and i know color theory (again has nothing to do with understanding or percieving what is in). Doesn’t matter what format you want me to calculate the values in RGB (for screen) or CMYK (for print)… its f’en red or at least ‘redder’. ---
**Author:** ![S13GG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13gg/32/5506_2.png) [@S13GG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13GG)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2006, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/6 "2006-07-28T14:57:30Z")
> [@mikeness](#): > > rear red, front orange, they also mount differently. ^ the correct answer is… ---
**Author:** ![Axlerod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8edcca/32.png) [@Axlerod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Axlerod)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2006, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/7 "2006-07-28T15:22:25Z")
Great thread, would read again. ---
**Author:** ![Alex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@Alex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alex)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2006, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/8 "2006-07-28T15:34:36Z")
if a tree falls in the forest, will i still be able to pee on it? ---
**Author:** ![Axlerod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8edcca/32.png) [@Axlerod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Axlerod)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/9 "2006-07-28T15:36:36Z")
This is just the kind of content we need to improve the image of our site. ---
**Author:** ![seth](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/seth/32/3175_2.png) [@seth](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/seth)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2006, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/10 "2006-07-28T15:37:37Z")
^ I am with you 100 percent. this shit should win an award. the front is orange the back is red. ---
**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/11 "2006-07-29T08:34:28Z")
Uhmm… do chickens have large talons? ---
**Author:** ![DirrtyDevo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dirrtydevo/32/5547_2.png) [@DirrtyDevo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DirrtyDevo)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/12 "2006-07-29T08:45:08Z")
Shave the rears leave the fronts orange. My widebody didnt have the holes for the ghey sidemarkers in the rear and i left it that way. Looks a tonne better…I matched the orange sidemarkers with orange signals in my clear signal lights. Looks clean and simple…other than the fact the cars flat black but thats all changing very soon. And yes they DO mount a bit diffrently…as for size their are more than likley exactly the same size. Im sure Ted misunderstood you or vice versa…Hes pretty accurate and knows his stuff… ---
**Author:** ![GT1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5e925/32.png) [@GT1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GT1)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/13 "2006-07-29T09:08:42Z")
by far the gayest thread in at least 8 minutes. cant you guys talk about something better than what colour the side markers are on a 240? :? GT ---
**Author:** ![cloudzero3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@cloudzero3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cloudzero3)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/14 "2006-07-29T10:49:58Z")
LOL, I REALLY hope this thread is some kind of stupid joke. ---
**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/15 "2006-07-29T11:46:18Z")
> [@cloudzero3](#): > > LOL, > > I REALLY hope this thread is some kind of stupid joke. Unless it was started by me, then it isn’t a joke. ---
**Author:** ![alesserfate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@alesserfate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/alesserfate)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/16 "2006-07-29T12:27:58Z")
hahaahh sweet thread ---
**Author:** ![flyingchicken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ac91a4/32.png) [@flyingchicken](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/flyingchicken)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/17 "2006-07-29T13:15:57Z")
how the hell did you get that 240sx emblem on the rear window to go backwards…??i want that _EDIT_ nevermind, it is actually mirror’d the wrong way ---
**Author:** ![reconJDM](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reconjdm/32/5510_2.png) [@reconJDM](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reconJDM)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/18 "2006-07-29T13:38:12Z")
> [@flyingchicken](#): > > how the hell did you get that 240sx emblem on the rear window to go backwards…??i want that > > _EDIT_ nevermind, it is actually mirror’d the wrong way kelvin the picture is mirrored backward, notice our gas tank is located at the passenger side. back on topic. someone actually made a thread about this s$it. :|. its almost like how come my car is not pretty. and yours is so pretty. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/front-and-rear-turn-signals-on-the-sides-debate/98400/19 "2006-07-29T14:09:50Z")
this is just stupid ![http://www.thelostaways.com/images/characters/locke-big.jpg](http://www.thelostaways.com/images/characters/locke-big.jpg)'d