# FS:: b16a2 head ,skunk 2 knock off I.M., exh. manifold, etc **URL:** \ **Category:** Classifieds\ **Created:** [November 16, 2006, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298 "2006-11-16T20:13:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/21 "2006-11-18T23:59:26Z")
> [@zero assault](#): > > That’s what I was under the impression of, the b16 and ITR head are made from the same casting, the ITR head has more aggresive cams and a better valvetrain, and comes with a mild pnp factory > > :gotme: b16a2 and type r are the same castings. Type R is hand ported from the factory and has lighter valvetrain and bigger cams. Gsr has higher compression bowl and ports flow good for torque. If the b16 head is so great then why didnt they use it on the GSR??? there is alot of debate and i guess its matter of opinion but all the bigname builders will tell you the gsr performs better and gives you a bump in compression. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr_t/32/7454_2.png) [@Mr\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_T)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2006, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/22 "2006-11-19T05:29:33Z")
> [@originalsin](#): > > btw mike, the ls/vtec should be faster and cheaper than any swap you do (id imagine youd go gsr or b16) Yea i was thinking a gsr , im just wondering if my block and tranny (which have about 138k on them) will hold up for a while .If it does n all ,my car prob would pull a gsr and be alot cheaper to do. I just like how reliable my car is right now and i dont want it to run like shit from making it a frankenstien motor. Which is kinda why i was interested in a fresh gsr with like 40 k on it. ---
**Author:** ![woz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/woz/32/7605_2.png) [@woz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/woz)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2006, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/23 "2006-11-19T08:39:09Z")
getting a swap is no guarentees tho, we could do a compression test on the motor, and you would be replacing the headgasket either way, and theres no reason a basically stock ls/vtec would blow on you if its tuned properly or conservativly, which it would be ---
**Author:** ![HYPEville](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hypeville/32/7226_2.png) [@HYPEville](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HYPEville)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2006, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/24 "2006-11-19T09:29:04Z")
well i haven’t seen any prices so…400 bucks?? ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2006, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/25 "2006-11-19T09:35:15Z")
says he already has offers for 700 ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr_t/32/7454_2.png) [@Mr\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_T)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2006, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/26 "2006-11-19T09:59:33Z")
yep this gary guy who also has teg offered 700 soo 400 is a joke of an offer even if your joking mr i live in cali kyle lol ---
**Author:** ![MidgeX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@MidgeX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MidgeX)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2006, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/27 "2006-11-19T10:07:32Z")
how much without the “500 dollar cams”? ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr_t/32/7454_2.png) [@Mr\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_T)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2006, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/28 "2006-11-19T10:12:33Z")
well idk cause then ill have to find stock b16 camshafts , cause im not gonna gonna sell it with out some in it. ---
**Author:** ![rage87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9e8a1a/32.png) [@rage87](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rage87)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2006, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/29 "2006-11-19T23:54:06Z")
b16a2 heads go for like $250-$300 out here. those cams are good but $700? :x I’ve seen ITR heads go for that much. Not to dog you but keep the head. Full GS-R swaps are $3200+ and you get ~180hp. All you MIGHT need (and is probably recommended) if you want to build is an LS block with less mileage and possibly a transmission. You can pick those up for very cheap… If you plan on turboing your car in the future go for the GS-R idea, but $3200 just for a swap when you are already half way to an LSVTEC setup doesn’t make sense. Shit, if you spend just $2500 on your LSVTEC setup you can make very nice power if you find someone nice to help you with the tuning… But I don’t know your goals with this car but paying $3k for a GS-R swap doesn’t make sense unless you’re planning on forced induction later on down the road. -Dick ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/30 "2006-11-20T05:53:34Z")
> [@rage87](#): > > b16a2 heads go for like $250-$300 thats pretty much the price that i am willing to pay ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr_t/32/7454_2.png) [@Mr\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_T)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/31 "2006-11-20T06:36:03Z")
> [@rage87](#): > > b16a2 heads go for like $250-$300 out here. those cams are good but $700? :x I’ve seen ITR heads go for that much. > > Not to dog you but keep the head. Full GS-R swaps are $3200+ and you get ~180hp. All you MIGHT need (and is probably recommended) if you want to build is an LS block with less mileage and possibly a transmission. You can pick those up for very cheap… > > If you plan on turboing your car in the future go for the GS-R idea, but $3200 just for a swap when you are already half way to an LSVTEC setup doesn’t make sense. Shit, if you spend just $2500 on your LSVTEC setup you can make very nice power if you find someone nice to help you with the tuning… > > But I don’t know your goals with this car but paying $3k for a GS-R swap doesn’t make sense unless you’re planning on forced induction later on down the road. > > -Dick well i am planning on a turbo set up but not for a year or soo but ls vtec would be fine for nowi guess.Only the bare head would go for 250-300$ so idk where u got that price from. [http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1752961](http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1752961) [http://hondamarketplace.com/zerothread?id=1804591](http://hondamarketplace.com/zerothread?id=1804591) [http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1806318](http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1806318) I cant find a stock complete b16a2 head for under like 400$ on honda tech, and those are with higher millage and some of them dont even have cams or camshafts, this head has roughly about 40-45k on it and comes with everything , crower camshafts that are almost new used for may b 1500 miles, intake manifold with ram intake on it, exhaust manifold, vtec distrubitor ,vtec solenoid. So if i do let this go, it aint gonna be for anywere near 250-300 unless its the bare head with nothing else, which i wouldnt part out anyways. I dont need to sell it , but if i get the right offer i wont turn it down so far 700$ seems pretty good to me so if i do sell it aint gonna be anything less than that. But thanks rage87 for the info on the gsr and lsvtec shit , ive heard from alot of ppl now that gsrs are better to boost. I might just keep it and go with my poor mans frankenstien motor. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/32 "2006-11-20T06:54:03Z")
take the 700 and boost ur ls motor ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr_t/32/7454_2.png) [@Mr\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_T)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/33 "2006-11-20T06:55:03Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > take the 700 and boost ur ls motor im thinking about that hmm. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/34 "2006-11-20T06:58:38Z")
and since u bout my roommates car i might be inclined to lend a hand since i wanted that car to be boosted since he bought it ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr_t/32/7454_2.png) [@Mr\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_T)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/35 "2006-11-20T07:11:06Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > and since u bout my roommates car i might be inclined to lend a hand since i wanted that car to be boosted since he bought it haha sounds good ---
**Author:** ![rage87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9e8a1a/32.png) [@rage87](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rage87)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/36 "2006-11-20T09:36:52Z")
GS-R is only really better to boost if you plan on cranking out 350+ hp. A correctly built LSVTEC can safely handle up to that, probably even past. okay 250-300 was a little low, but still most on there are going for $350ish. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr_t/32/7454_2.png) [@Mr\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_T)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/37 "2006-11-20T09:47:01Z")
yea for now all id want to do is around 300hp ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr_t/32/7454_2.png) [@Mr\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_T)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/38 "2006-11-26T07:42:18Z")
bump ---
**Author:** ![mindless](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mindless/32/7286_2.png) [@mindless](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mindless)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/39 "2006-11-26T12:33:32Z")
y do u bump if ur not sure if ur ganna sell or what u wanna sell for. figure out a price and if ur ganna sell it first b4 bumping. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr_t/32/7454_2.png) [@Mr\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_T)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2006, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298/40 "2006-11-26T12:38:59Z")
Im just seein if anyone is interested in it. I dont have a set price cause im new to hondas and dont know what its worth. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-b16a2-head-skunk-2-knock-off-i-m-exh-manifold-etc/20298.md?page=3)