# Fu(k'D T-56... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [March 4, 2006, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889 "2006-03-04T17:36:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2006, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889/1 "2006-03-04T17:36:31Z")
So yea, I started tearing down my tranny to start the upgrade/rebuild and I found a mess… I’ve only got the tailshaft housing off, and the reverse/5/6th gears apart, and I’m already in trouble… Reverse syncro is screwed 5th gear has wear on the syncro teeth; not good 6th gear has wear on the syncro teeth; not good the 5/6th syncro is warn round; it starts pointed… So… anyone got a hookup on t-56 parts? because if this trend continues, it’s going to be getting all new internals. I’ll post pics of the carnage tomorrow after I get the rest stripped down. ---
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2006, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889/2 "2006-03-04T17:41:21Z")
I dont know your timeframe, but in the early summer, I will have the entire internal assembly from my 12K Mile Viper-Spec T-56 up for sale. I will be rebuilding it as a G-Force T-56. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2006, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889/3 "2006-03-04T17:51:03Z")
> [@Final GTS](#): > > I dont know your timeframe, but in the early summer, I will have the entire internal assembly from my 12K Mile Viper-Spec T-56 up for sale. I will be rebuilding it as a G-Force T-56. haha perfect! sold… or at least i would assume ---
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2006, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889/4 "2006-03-04T18:06:13Z")
There is a possibility I’d be interested; I doubt my engine will be ready till mid-summer anyways but… I’m heading twords a D&D/G-force myself actually; I’m just going the work instead of having them build it. I’m looking at faceplating the gears for the syncro’s now; sent an e-mail off and am looking how streetable/life it has. The cost is much less than new gears, but I’ve still got a lot of parts to buy (Bearings, seals, Viper Output shaft, possibly a new mainshaft as well; plus cryo-treating all the internals). ---
**Author:** ![87FOXGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ecd19e/32.png) [@87FOXGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87FOXGT)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889/5 "2006-03-04T18:27:54Z")
Hmm, Dan, I might want your shit come summer. We’ll have to talk about this when we head out to the guv this weekend. ---
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2006, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889/6 "2006-03-04T18:48:18Z")
Not a problem guys. I am in no major hurry to get this part done, so whatever works. I want the car running and driving with everything else configured as final production first, as I can better decide what G-Force ratios will be best to go with after the fact. Well… that and I have to come up with another 5 fucking grand to get the G-Force internals I will need…lol ---
**Author:** ![venomblue550](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a587f6/32.png) [@venomblue550](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/venomblue550)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2006, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889/7 "2006-03-05T09:11:50Z")
are you looking to fully rebuild your T-56?? or replace the whole thing?? and is it a LT1 or LS1 T56?? ---
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2006, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889/8 "2006-03-05T09:41:23Z")
Well, I got the rest torn down, and the damage isn’t as bad as I thought… As of now, I’ve got to replace, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, and 6th gears; all the syncro assemblies, all wearables and normal replacement parts; as well as adapting in a Viper Mainshaft. I’ll post pictures later. 3rd gear is chipped up pretty good, as well as being worn pretty hard; 2nd gear is the same way; 5th & 6th have some pretty sever wear on the syncro teeth; and all the syncro sliders, sleeves, and keys are all pretty shot… I’ve also got a strange spot of rust on the mainshaft under the 5th gear bearing surface; only spot that’s rusted in the entire tranny… kinda strange. Now… $150/per gear… that’s $600 in just gears… not too bad; it could’ve been a LOT worse I guess. ---
**Author:** ![BaD\_AZz\_Z\_28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f04885/32.png) [@BaD\_AZz\_Z\_28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BaD_AZz_Z_28)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2006, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889/9 "2006-03-05T10:54:53Z")
Fucked up a borg warner t56 huh? impressively difficult ---
**Author:** ![slow84ta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slow84ta/32/7265_2.png) [@slow84ta](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slow84ta)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2006, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889/10 "2006-03-05T11:25:55Z")
if you don’t want your stock t56 the way it is now and just gonna get a whole new tranny. Let me know. I’m in the market for a busted t56… PM me and let me know if you wanna sell the stocker ---
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2006, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889/11 "2006-03-05T11:30:56Z")
I’m rebuilding this one; so no, I’m not getting rid of it. Well, does anyone know anything about dog-ring’d/face-plated tranny’s and how their street maners are? This is a weekend-only car, so I’m not too worried about street maners, but I don’t want a complete nightmare to drive either. Depending on the street maners of the Dog-ring’d cars, It’s leading me to either just replace the gears that need it with stockers and dog-ring’m; or replace only 5&6 with stockers, and go with a G-Force set of 1-4 gears/shafts. ---
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2006, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889/12 "2006-03-05T11:33:20Z")
> [@BaD AZz Z/28](#): > > Fucked up a borg warner t56 huh? impressively difficult Yea, I know, normally it’s the Tremec ones that fail… This one just shows some serious wear, nothing critical except the 2/3 gears with the ridge chips (End of the gear buildup of wear creates a ridge; and that snaps off with some gear surface); plus the mainshaft bearings were starting to wear and wobble slightly. I didn’t know they were hard to screw up though; I thought this would be considered “normal” wear for a 97K mile medium driven t-56. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2006, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889/13 "2006-03-05T12:54:15Z")
> [@venomblue550](#): > > are you looking to fully rebuild your T-56?? or replace the whole thing?? and is it a LT1 or LS1 T56?? Mr. Wang are you dealing in more parts that go boom? ---
**Author:** ![BaD\_AZz\_Z\_28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f04885/32.png) [@BaD\_AZz\_Z\_28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BaD_AZz_Z_28)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2006, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889/14 "2006-03-05T21:00:58Z")
> [@97FormulaWS-6](#): > > I didn’t know they were hard to screw up though; I thought this would be considered “normal” wear for a 97K mile medium driven t-56. Impossible to screw up. Ive run a bunch of bottles through mine with 125k on them, plenty of 6k drops, taken up to 140mph more times than I can count, not to mention the half season it ran with almost no fluid. These things are impossible to hurt :tup: ---
**Author:** ![Oroc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c68b51/32.png) [@Oroc](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oroc)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 5:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889/15 "2006-03-06T05:36:07Z")
> [@BaD AZz Z/28](#): > > Impossible to screw up. Ive run a bunch of bottles through mine with 125k on them, plenty of 6k drops, taken up to 140mph more times than I can count, not to mention the half season it ran with almost no fluid. These things are impossible to hurt :tup: good to hear, if badazz hasnt busted it i’m fully confident i cant 😉 hehe ---
**Author:** ![BaD\_AZz\_Z\_28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f04885/32.png) [@BaD\_AZz\_Z\_28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BaD_AZz_Z_28)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889/16 "2006-03-06T10:30:28Z")
> [@Oroc](#): > > good to hear, if badazz hasnt busted it i’m fully confident i cant 😉 hehe \<- testing the structural limits of every automotive part known to man since 2000 :tup: ---
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889/17 "2006-03-06T15:42:37Z")
> [@97FormulaWS-6](#): > > I’m rebuilding this one; so no, I’m not getting rid of it. > > Well, does anyone know anything about dog-ring’d/face-plated tranny’s and how their street maners are? This is a weekend-only car, so I’m not too worried about street maners, but I don’t want a complete nightmare to drive either. > > Depending on the street maners of the Dog-ring’d cars, It’s leading me to either just replace the gears that need it with stockers and dog-ring’m; or replace only 5&6 with stockers, and go with a G-Force set of 1-4 gears/shafts. Isn’t it with the dog-ringed gears that you can only shift up and have to come to a complete stop to go back to 1st gear? ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2006, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fu-kd-t-56/8889/18 "2006-03-06T17:21:05Z")
There are pictures now on-line in my gallery, hopefully marshall will pick out a few and pist them up so that you can see the extent of the wear