# Fuel from sunlight and CO2 at ~ $30/barrel??? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [January 27, 2011, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuel-from-sunlight-and-co2-at-30-barrel/208604 "2011-01-27T06:56:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Inn-Tune](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/inn-tune/32/7588_2.png) [@Inn-Tune](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Inn-Tune)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuel-from-sunlight-and-co2-at-30-barrel/208604/1 "2011-01-27T06:56:56Z")
Joule Unlimited secured a patent for a single step process to create biofuels compatible with our current diesel and ethanol infrastructures using CO2 and sunlight in a single step process facilitated by organisms they’ve engineered specifically for this purpose. Essentially they’re going to make fuel out of the greenhouse gas that vehicles usually emit plus sunlight, at around $30 a BARREL. They already have proof of concept and it seems very scalable, plus they’ll probably secure cheap land in the desert with ample sunlight. [http://www.jouleunlimited.com/](http://www.jouleunlimited.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuel-from-sunlight-and-co2-at-30-barrel/208604/2 "2011-01-27T06:59:10Z")
innnnteresting… ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuel-from-sunlight-and-co2-at-30-barrel/208604/3 "2011-01-27T07:01:55Z")
wow, that’s really cool ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuel-from-sunlight-and-co2-at-30-barrel/208604/4 "2011-01-27T07:08:47Z")
> **[Joule Unlimited: 'Fuel from thin air' comes closer, clearer : Biofuels Digest](http://www.biofuelsdigest.com/bdigest/2010/08/23/joule-unlimited-fuel-from-thin-air-comes-closer-clearer/)** > > In Massachusetts, the secretive Joule Unlimited (then known as Joule Biotechnologies) emerged late last year from "stealth mode" with the startling announcement that their technology could produce up to 15,000 gallons per acre (per year) of drop-in... A little more reading there. ---
**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuel-from-sunlight-and-co2-at-30-barrel/208604/5 "2011-01-27T07:10:27Z")
great scott. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuel-from-sunlight-and-co2-at-30-barrel/208604/6 "2011-01-27T07:15:05Z")
Hmm…looks like their stock ownership is all private placement. I will have to keep an eye out should they decide to go IPO. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuel-from-sunlight-and-co2-at-30-barrel/208604/7 "2011-01-27T07:22:46Z")
They will be dead or missing soon. :snky: lol If it sounds to good to be true… (let’s hope that does not apply here):tup: ---
**Author:** ![quadturbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7bcc69/32.png) [@quadturbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/quadturbo)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuel-from-sunlight-and-co2-at-30-barrel/208604/8 "2011-01-27T07:32:44Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > They will be dead or missing soon. :snky: lol > > If it sounds to good to be true… (let’s hope that does not apply here):tup: Just like the guy that made the water car lol ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuel-from-sunlight-and-co2-at-30-barrel/208604/9 "2011-01-27T07:36:51Z")
It’s saying AS LOW AS. I wonder what the real world prices would be if this went through. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuel-from-sunlight-and-co2-at-30-barrel/208604/10 "2011-01-27T07:44:34Z")
> [@quadturbo](#): > > Just like the guy that made the water car lol Or Diesel or Larsen or etc. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuel-from-sunlight-and-co2-at-30-barrel/208604/11 "2011-01-27T07:46:10Z")
So they invented the tree? lol ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuel-from-sunlight-and-co2-at-30-barrel/208604/12 "2011-01-27T07:51:22Z")
[sarcasm]Once it works in a lab and at demonstration scale, there are usually no unknown challenges to be faced[/sarcasm] I hope it does work, but I wonder where they get their feed chemicals and CO2 from. Using waste CO2 is not an easy feat. It will have to be captured and stored/transported/used in some useful form. It is full of things that need to be removed. I know Hydrogen production from Natrual Gas makes a ton of CO2. Not sure if it’s cost effective to capture it yet. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuel-from-sunlight-and-co2-at-30-barrel/208604/13 "2011-01-27T07:57:19Z")
One big thing I saw was that it can use any water, salty or shitty or what have you. If it required fresh water they’d just be replacing one problem with another. Wonder if the CO2 is the same way where it could be run through with imperfections. Maybe they could do something like the pop bottle system since car engines still emit CO2…have a canister on your exhaust to collect the CO2 emitted and then when you go to the gas station to fill up you have them collect it for a few cents off your purchase. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuel-from-sunlight-and-co2-at-30-barrel/208604/14 "2011-01-27T08:01:06Z")
[quote=“drvnkd,post:12,topic:208604"”] I hope it does work, but I wonder where they get their feed chemicals and CO2 from. Using waste CO2 is not an easy feat. It will have to be captured and stored/transported/used in some useful form. It is full of things that need to be removed. I know Hydrogen production from Natrual Gas makes a ton of CO2. Not sure if it’s cost effective to capture it yet. [/quote] ^ This guy gets it. It sounds promising, but I’ll hold back my applause until they release more details and actually produce some real quantities. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuel-from-sunlight-and-co2-at-30-barrel/208604/15 "2011-01-27T08:21:19Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > … have a canister on your mouth to collect the CO2 emitted… Fixed 🙂 ![http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/make-stalker-uniform-stalker-kit-gsc-the-zone-radiation-equipment-weapons-gas-mask.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/2/1/2108271f88d5ba2cddc9dd7741100fc9b7828325.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2011, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fuel-from-sunlight-and-co2-at-30-barrel/208604/16 "2011-01-27T08:26:37Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > Maybe they could do something like the pop bottle system since car engines still emit CO2…have a canister on your exhaust to collect the CO2 emitted and then when you go to the gas station to fill up you have them collect it for a few cents off your purchase. Didn’t SAAB do this about 20 years ago? They collected exhaust until the cat heated up and then put the exhaust through. Am I dreaming this up or did this happen? lol I swear I read it in Road and Track(or whatever) way back when. It was before Al Gore invented the internet.