# Full Auto **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 25, 2013, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097 "2013-01-25T03:21:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![silverandslow1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@silverandslow1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow1)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/1 "2013-01-25T03:21:15Z")
I was just sitting here after waking up from a hangover and thought about the rationale behind banning fully automatic guns. I’m actually confused. If I wanted to go on a rampage with a rifle, I wouldn’t use full auto even if available. Its less accurate and would chew up ammo like crazy. I look back at the famous bank robbery in Hollywood. The only people dead were the robbers and they shot a LOT of rounds full auto and didn’t hit very much. So I guess my question is what made people want to ban them? Besides that it looks scary. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 4:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/2 "2013-01-25T04:44:15Z")
MG42 + concert or any other big gathering. Next question. ---
**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/3 "2013-01-25T06:39:03Z")
it’s accuracy by volume ---
**Author:** ![BDSKJChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/59ef9b/32.png) [@BDSKJChris](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BDSKJChris)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/4 "2013-01-25T06:41:05Z")
google grazing fire, accuracy by volume is a good point as well, thats the concept behind a minigun, throw so much lead downrange and its harder not to hit something ---
**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/5 "2013-01-25T08:35:37Z")
Not all full auto weapons are inaccurate, take for instance the MP5 sub-machine gun. And me personally I would take an M249, which can easily be shoulder fired (speaking from experience and I was 6’ 170lbs while doing it) ANY day of the week over and M16/AR15. ---
**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/6 "2013-01-25T09:50:22Z")
They’re not fully banned in every state. Full auto firearms, short barreled rifles, etc are still legal to own in Vermont, look up Title II or Class 3 firearms. Those by definition are TRUE ASSAULT WEAPONS, not this semi-automatic bull shit all these idiot liberals drive in your face as being bad guns. But, with your statement and like everyone else said - not all full auto or select fire weapons are inaccurate. Thats part of why 3 round burst was implemented/designed, generally less muzzle climb between trigger pulls and less ammunition wasted. ---
**Author:** ![v8lonoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/45deac/32.png) [@v8lonoma](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/v8lonoma)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/7 "2013-01-25T14:11:30Z")
Have you ever shot a full auto? They are more accurate then you’d think, easily on target if you have even minimal shooting skills. Also if you don’t want to use ammo you can take your finger off of the trigger. ---
**Author:** ![silverandslow1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@silverandslow1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow1)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/8 "2013-01-25T15:37:07Z")
I think if full auto was as efficient as you all are saying military would use it more often, and SWAT teams would also. I think the benefits are outweighed by the negatives except in certain military strategies, I think it should be legal…and I want one. ---
**Author:** ![silverandslow1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@silverandslow1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow1)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/9 "2013-01-25T15:40:36Z")
> [@FS: 03 s2k Updated price again](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-03-s2k-updated-price-again/49495/70): > > MG42 + concert or any other big gathering. > > Next question. Another meaningless opinion from Vovchandr…speaking about things he knows nothing about. I really should have specified, people who respond should have some firearms/tactics experience. ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/10 "2013-01-25T16:42:26Z")
> [@newb](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newb/51561/6): > > I think if full auto was as efficient as you all are saying military would use it more often, and SWAT teams would also. I think the benefits are outweighed by the negatives except in certain military strategies, I think it should be legal…and I want one. so move to a red state, apply for ffl3 and pay the tax states. done deal. The real kicker for full auto stuff…the price. go look it up on day and you’ll probably shit your pants. And then of course there’s the cost of ammo. I wouldn’t mind an mp5 with 3RB but I’d rather just work on keeping my current rights than worrying about obtaining the licensing to own an auto. ---
**Author:** ![GATVILLE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gatville/32/6362_2.png) [@GATVILLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GATVILLE)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/11 "2013-01-25T17:02:08Z")
if you have a class 3 is it then legal to convert a semi auto to full? I would guess the answer would depend on what state you are in ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/12 "2013-01-25T17:24:01Z")
> [@A history of suck... (awesome update post 99, then 134)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-history-of-suck-awesome-update-post-99-then-134/47278/148): > > if you have a class 3 is it then legal to convert a semi auto to full? I would guess the answer would depend on what state you are in If you’re a Class 3 FFL, you still need permission from local PD chief as they’re technically for demo use only (like a PD wants to test before buying). Individuals cannot. They need to pay for the $200 tax stamp and buy a gun that was made transferable before 1986. So it leaves anything new off the table. They did make “lightning links” which convert and AR to full auto, but they’re still expensive and were made before 1986 and be transferable. Transferable M16s are usually $20k+, same with anything HK. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/13 "2013-01-25T18:09:00Z")
> [@A history of suck... (awesome update post 99, then 134)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/a-history-of-suck-awesome-update-post-99-then-134/47278/146): > > Another meaningless opinion from Vovchandr…speaking about things he knows nothing about. I really should have specified, people who respond should have some firearms/tactics experience. I should add a minimal IQ limit to be able to post on the site. I’m amazed you were able to accumulate enough brain cells to pass the security question. Don’t get butthurt that you thought of a stupid idea “YARRR full auto should be legal because I said so ARR” and read the quotes below. > [@FS:Lots of Computers and Parts](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-lots-of-computers-and-parts/51520/12): > > it’s accuracy by volume > [@FS: AMD Athlon 64 Computer System, Complete, Everything You Need! - $450 or B.O.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-amd-athlon-64-computer-system-complete-everything-you-need-450-or-b-o/51507/12): > > google grazing fire, accuracy by volume is a good point as well, thats the concept behind a minigun, throw so much lead downrange and its harder not to hit something > [@newb](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newb/51561/5): > > Not all full auto weapons are inaccurate, take for instance the MP5 sub-machine gun. And me personally I would take an M249, which can easily be shoulder fired (speaking from experience and I was 6’ 170lbs while doing it) ANY day of the week over and M16/AR15. > [@THE \*\*iPhone\*\* Thread (GPS, JailBreak, Apps, Etc)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-iphone-thread-gps-jailbreak-apps-etc/52832/4): > > Have you ever shot a full auto? > > They are more accurate then you’d think, easily on target if you have even minimal shooting skills. Also if you don’t want to use ammo you can take your finger off of the trigger. So silver… go eat some more lead paint. :pop ---
**Author:** ![v8lonoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/45deac/32.png) [@v8lonoma](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/v8lonoma)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/14 "2013-01-26T05:53:44Z")
??? ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/15 "2013-01-26T06:48:26Z")
> [@Rochester Abondoned Subway Tunnel, pics post 60...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rochester-abondoned-subway-tunnel-pics-post-60/51530/82): > > ??? That final comment was aimed at silverand **slow** , not the commenters above it. Sorry for the confusion. ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/16 "2013-01-26T08:39:11Z")
I’ve shot a Thompson and ar15 fully auto, both were more accurate then I expected ---
**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/17 "2013-01-26T10:09:44Z")
> [@newb](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newb/51561/6): > > I think if full auto was as efficient as you all are saying military would use it more often, and SWAT teams would also. I think the benefits are outweighed by the negatives except in certain military strategies, I think it should be legal…and I want one. How do you figure? They are very efficient, an automatic weapon was designed for suppressing fire and getting rounds down range, if you are that concerned about accuracy get a sniper rifle. In the Marines each fireteam contains one M249 light machine gun or M240 medium machine gun. They are used A LOT more then you think. SWAT teams won’t use them because the majority of the situations they encounter are close range which does not require an automatic weapon, except maybe an MP5. But in most cases SWAT deals with situations with innocent civilians around so again though they can be accurate there will be bullets that go astray. No idea where you are getting your facts from on full auto weapons. ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/18 "2013-01-26T10:58:38Z")
he’s watching too may ganster movies with pray and spray techniques guys. ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/19 "2013-01-26T11:44:46Z")
> [@\*Official\* Shredd & Reagan Cruise Night Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shredd-reagan-cruise-night-thread/47806/549): > > How do you figure? They are very efficient, an automatic weapon was designed for suppressing fire and getting rounds down range, if you are that concerned about accuracy get a sniper rifle. In the Marines each fireteam contains one M249 light machine gun or M240 medium machine gun. They are used A LOT more then you think. SWAT teams won’t use them because the majority of the situations they encounter are close range which does not require an automatic weapon, except maybe an MP5. But in most cases SWAT deals with situations with innocent civilians around so again though they can be accurate there will be bullets that go astray. No idea where you are getting your facts from on full auto weapons. Every person I’ve ever met that does SWAT in various areas of the state/region pretty much all said they used MP5s. Some said M4s, but those were the only guns mentioned. There’s a big reason MP5s are the standard by which all other sub-guns (SMGs) are judged. ---
**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097/20 "2013-01-26T11:52:54Z")
> [@OFFICIAL: 2008 ELECTION THREAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2008-election-thread/41192/979): > > he’s watching too may ganster movies with pray and spray techniques guys. I was thinking that after I posted lol, most movies with all that special effects are ruined for me knowing how it really works in real life, especially grenades!!! Sounds stupid to get upset over but I hate whenever a movie shows someone throwing a fragment grenade and it blows up with a huge fireball! [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/full-auto/266097.md?page=2)