# G8 to live on as a... (update j/k) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [July 13, 2009, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460 "2009-07-13T05:40:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/61 "2011-03-29T07:44:07Z")
> Zeta rumors have been the hot topic of General Motors’ enthusiasts and mainstream media since the first inklings of the return of the Camaro. Initially the platform was going to see production in North America, hosting an entire lineup of rear-wheel drive greatness. Then gas prices spiked the first time and GM’s cash position dwindled, thus killing the glorious plans. Fast-forward to today and drama still surrounds Zeta, but future plans are starting to become clearer. > > Since the demise of the Holden derived Pontiac G8 sedan, there has been much internal debate about bringing the Holden Commodore back to the North American market. GM’s high executive turn rate since emerging from its 2009 bankruptcy has not helped that matter, with each of the three post-bankruptcy CEO’s having a different position on the importation of Holden products. > > Back in September GMI first reported that Chevrolet was aspiring to have a Commodore-based sedan on the North American market. Internally the sedan has been referred to as “SS Sedan.” Initial reports had the car launching for the 2012 model-year, but that has since been pushed back to 2014 model year, likely to capitalize on the redesigned Commodore that will launch around the same time. > > According to documents obtained by GMI, the ‘SS Sedan’ is now operating as an approved program. The program is running under the code Z2SC and is expected to launch in North America in early 2013 as a 2014 model year vehicle. GMI was able to independently confirm the time frame with Holden sources as well. > > Perhaps the more interesting news is that GM is also considering the Holden Ute and Holden Commodore SportWagon for the North American market. Unlike the ‘SS Sedan,’ the Ute and SportWagon based models are not currently approved for production. If approved, the documents suggest the Ute would launch at the same time as the sedan, with the SportWagon launching later in the 2013 calendar year. The documents list the Ute based vehicle as ‘El Camino.’ The El Camino’s program code is Z2RC, while the SportWagon code is Z2WC. > > GMI expects that the approval of the El Camino and SportWagon will hinge on fuel prices in North America and potential profitability of the two models, as both would likely be very low volume products. > > In other Zeta news, GMI has also been able to confirm that the Caprice patrol vehicle is expected to have a second generation on the North American market starting in 2014 model year as well. > > It’s important to note that the Zeta program at GM has been a near constant source of drama internally. As our reporting has reflected, there has been a tremendous amount of back and forth about Zeta. GMI is, however, starting to see some consistency with regards to the future of the ‘SS Sedan.’ > **[Zeta Update: Three Holden Products For North America?](https://www.gminsidenews.com/threads/zeta-update-three-holden-products-for-north-america.101692/)** ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/62 "2011-03-29T08:02:58Z")
Ugly and boring. No thanks. ---
**Author:** ![FadetoBlack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fadetoblack/32/6118_2.png) [@FadetoBlack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FadetoBlack)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/63 "2011-06-09T19:12:17Z")
Any new info on this? I want a G8-esque car in the worst way but by the time I’m gonna get rid of the GP the 09 G8’s are gonna be ancient. Anyone hear anything? ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/64 "2012-05-03T13:23:45Z")
Bump: A lot of activity recently General Motors registering the “SS” trademark last month Chevrolet has said its new entry in the racing series will be both a new vehicle and a new nameplate. GM’s OnStar accidentally confirmed the 2014 Chevy SS Now car and driver is claiming a wagon and ute are coming as well Most of the links can be found here: > **[Ss News and Information - Autoblog](https://www.autoblog.com/tag/ss/)** > > Read the latest Ss news and browse our full collection of Ss articles, photos, press releases and related videos. ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/65 "2012-05-03T13:36:11Z")
If it looks anything like the photos… poor choice. It looks like a mix of an Impalla and the year they changed the Taurus into the Fivehundred GM needs to step up the looks. Euro cars seem to have the curves and body lines people are liking these days. ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/66 "2012-05-03T17:37:13Z")
I definitely cannot get enough of them kia, honda, hyundai, toyota body lines, every car they make is seXY ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/67 "2012-05-03T20:43:56Z")
I wouldn’t mind it being so bland because you could just swap out the front end for the commodore…JDM YO ![http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/04/2012-chevrolet-caprice-ppv-9c3.jpg](http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/04/2012-chevrolet-caprice-ppv-9c3.jpg) ![http://www.allbestwallpapers.com/wallpaper/vehicle/image/holden_ve_ii_commodore_sv6_2011.jpg](http://www.allbestwallpapers.com/wallpaper/vehicle/image/holden_ve_ii_commodore_sv6_2011.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/68 "2012-05-03T20:51:08Z")
That is a really awful looking car. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/69 "2012-05-04T04:12:49Z")
How can GM take something that looks as good as that Commodore and turn it into that ugly silver pile of shit? ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/70 "2012-05-04T04:22:40Z")
I doubt we see something that looks like the silver car Here is the 2014 Impala, probably more design language from it ![http://image.motortrend.com/f/37327393+w786+ar1/2014-Chevrolet-Impala-front-three-quarter.JPG.jpg](http://image.motortrend.com/f/37327393+w786+ar1/2014-Chevrolet-Impala-front-three-quarter.JPG.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/71 "2012-05-04T06:15:26Z")
> [@ubengineering](#): > > I definitely cannot get enough of them kia, honda, hyundai, toyota body lines, every car they make is seXY LOL Really? I believe I’m talking about BMW, Mercedes, Audi, VW, etc. ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/72 "2012-05-04T09:29:50Z")
I do not think those companies make 15k cars^^^, if you look at any of the designs of 45k plus cars from GM, actually any brand, the designs are much nicer, the point of that ugly silver car above is that everyone’s 18 year old kid may be able to afford it ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/73 "2012-05-04T09:37:14Z")
> [@ubengineering](#): > > I do not think those companies make 15k cars^^^, if you look at any of the designs of 45k plus cars from GM, actually any brand, the designs are much nicer, the point of that ugly silver car above is that everyone’s 18 year old kid may be able to afford it Funny taxi cab drivers in Europe are driving around these mercedes that look good. Plus I doubt this apparent new “G8” is going to be for $15k. Being is a domestic car, price shouldnt be $45k to have a look like a european car. ---
**Author:** ![Shockwave179](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shockwave179/32/7496_2.png) [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/74 "2012-05-04T10:34:37Z")
I must be the only person in the world that’s actually happy that GM’s cars don’t look like POS Volksfaggens. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/75 "2012-12-03T12:01:08Z")
> **[How the SS will become Chevy's four-door Corvette halo car](https://www.autoblog.com/2012/11/30/how-the-ss-will-become-chevys-four-door-corvette-halo-car/)** > > "This is not a return of the Pontiac G8." > > > Yesterday on a stage on the Encore Theater at The Wynn Resort in Las Vegas, Chevrolet revealed its NASC There are two ways in which the SS will not be the Pontiac G8 2.0: It’s going upmarket and it’s not for the masses. Chevy is treating the SS like a halo car. The high-power small-block V8, in his words, makes the SS “a four-door Corvette.” “Pontiac had all kinds of options and trim levels [for the G8]. This will be different.” ---
**Author:** ![Slaw](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slaw/32/5313_2.png) [@Slaw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slaw)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/76 "2012-12-03T14:07:15Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > I wouldn’t mind it being so bland because you could just swap out the front end for the commodore…JDM YO This pile looks like it would be the suzuki version of platform. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/77 "2012-12-03T14:29:37Z")
I don’t know why I even opened this thread. I regret it, i just threw up in my mouth a little bit ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/78 "2012-12-03T14:35:52Z")
If you really this the car is going to look like anything posted in this thread, you are mistaken The nascar version at least gives cues to the design language. ![http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/11/53nascarssrevealed-opt.jpg](http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/11/53nascarssrevealed-opt.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/79 "2012-12-03T18:25:02Z")
> [@BigRon](#): > > I doubt we see something that looks like the silver car > > Here is the 2014 Impala, probably more design language from it this i like ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2013, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460/80 "2013-02-11T06:12:43Z")
Chevy SS should be introduced next week. Holden Commodore below gives a good idea what we will see. ![http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2013/02/vf-calaisv-show-car-02-opt.jpg](http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2013/02/vf-calaisv-show-car-02-opt.jpg) > **[New Holden Commodore bows, presages Chevy SS \[w/video\]](https://www.autoblog.com/2013/02/10/new-holden-commodore-bows-presages-chevy-ss-w-video/)** > > Holden has unveiled its redesigned VF Commodore sedan in Australia, and it's making no secret of the fact that its prized rear-wheel-drive sedan will be exported to the USA as the long-awaited Chevrolet SS. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/g8-to-live-on-as-a-update-j-k/70460.md?page=5)