# Galant VR4, DSM or Import? **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [March 21, 2008, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137 "2008-03-21T07:26:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Vandal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/858c86/32.png) [@Vandal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vandal)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137/41 "2008-03-21T16:03:04Z")
> [@OsoiNA6](#): > > VR4s were only sold in the USA for two years, 1991 and 1992. In 1991 the allotment was 2000 cars (with fancy #xxxx/2000 plaque on dash) and in 1992 it was 1000 cars. > > After a couple searches, I confirmed from a legitimate source ([galantvr4.org](http://galantvr4.org)) that the cars were in fact imported from Japan. They were not built here. > > [http://www.galantvr4.org/rhertz/](http://www.galantvr4.org/rhertz/) > > [DSM.org](http://DSM.org) also says the cars were built in Japan. > > [Mitsubishi Galant VR-4](http://www.dsm.org/cars/galant.htm) > > Yup, the latter models had a twin turbo V6 engine. That’s why I said available in the states, by that I didn’t mean to insinuate that they were built here. ---
**Author:** ![Vandal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/858c86/32.png) [@Vandal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vandal)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137/42 "2008-03-21T16:04:29Z")
No car is reliable once you start to beat on or mod them lol. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137/43 "2008-03-21T16:10:27Z")
in the DSM circles, the GVR4 is welcome from what ive seen. but the true DSM was 89-94 Eclipse,Talon,Laser. because after 94, the plymouth laser was no more, so one side would be missing from the Diamond Star… but 2G eclipse and talons were also accepted in the DSM world. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137/44 "2008-03-21T16:15:53Z")
> [@EJ257FTW](#): > > all these cars still share one thing… the reliability of wet cardboard. :banana its all in how you take care of the car. ive seen several bone stock west coast cars with over 100k on them with full maintenance records, un molested that ran like champs… DSMs break because current, or previous owners dont know what they are doing with the car, or they were just flat out abused. also the oldest DSM’s are almost 20 years old… I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOUR STI, OR ANY STI AT 20 YEARS OLD. especially being beaten to death its whole life. ---
**Author:** ![Vandal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/858c86/32.png) [@Vandal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vandal)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137/45 "2008-03-21T16:18:19Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > its all in how you take care of the car. ive seen several bone stock west coast cars with over 100k on them with full maintenance records, un molested that ran like champs… DSMs break because current, or previous owners dont know what they are doing with the car, or they were just flat out abused. also the oldest DSM’s are almost 20 years old… I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOUR STI, OR ANY STI AT 20 YEARS OLD. especially being beaten to death its whole life. THANK YOU. ---
**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137/46 "2008-03-21T18:20:41Z")
> [@Vandal](#): > > That’s why I said available in the states, by that I didn’t mean to insinuate that they were built here. I’m not disagreeing with you… Just from the wording I thought it said '88 to '92 VR4s were sold here, so I just wanted to clarify it was only sold in the US for two years, that’s all. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137/47 "2008-03-21T18:46:23Z")
when i worked at mangino mitsu as a tech all parts and assosiation with the gvr4 was dsm as they were imported from japan with the star on them after late 94 they were built here ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137/48 "2008-03-21T20:12:43Z")
> [@Code Blue](#): > > if your going on the whole basis of being an import as to what country the car was assembled in, then I believe every BMW Z roadster and SUV are domestics. Personally, I think it is obvious what a domestic is vs an import. Toyota/Honda vs Ford/Chevy. But I find it interesting that more and more of these cars have Japan parts in them yet people strive to be loyal to domestics? ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137/49 "2008-03-21T20:14:55Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > its all in how you take care of the car. ive seen several bone stock west coast cars with over 100k on them with full maintenance records, un molested that ran like champs… DSMs break because current, or previous owners dont know what they are doing with the car, or they were just flat out abused. also the oldest DSM’s are almost 20 years old… I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOUR STI, OR ANY STI AT 20 YEARS OLD. especially being beaten to death its whole life. Great post. DSM and the 3/S are fantastic examples of Mitsubishi technology. Shit, the 3/S went 9.X and 15X on a STOCK block. DSMs? Isn’t the 4G63 in the 7s? 8s? The problem is exactly what you said: younger owners and 2 decade old cars. Shit is going to break overtime. ---
**Author:** ![Vandal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/858c86/32.png) [@Vandal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vandal)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2008, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137/50 "2008-03-22T05:55:20Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > Great post. DSM and the 3/S are fantastic examples of Mitsubishi technology. Shit, the 3/S went 9.X and 15X on a STOCK block. DSMs? Isn’t the 4G63 in the 7s? 8s? The problem is exactly what you said: younger owners and 2 decade old cars. Shit is going to break overtime. Well, that’s subjective, too. John Shepherd’s 1G is about the closest one that can still be considered a DSM since he’s using the body. His ran high 7s. Brent Rau’s talon is hardly a talon anymore. Tube chassis, RWD, powerglide, hell the only part of DSM left on that is the engine. That car broke into the high 6s last summer. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2008, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137/51 "2008-03-22T07:57:41Z")
> [@Vandal](#): > > Well, that’s subjective, too. John Shepherd’s 1G is about the closest one that can still be considered a DSM since he’s using the body. His ran high 7s. Brent Rau’s talon is hardly a talon anymore. Tube chassis, RWD, powerglide, hell the only part of DSM left on that is the engine. That car broke into the high 6s last summer. Just about anything in the 7s or so isn’t a “Ford” or “Nissan” anymore but I think you got my point: Impressive technology by Mitsubishi. ---
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2008, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137/52 "2008-03-22T08:18:21Z")
Im not sure why people are chiming in when they clearly know nothing of the cars. Dj knows this as well, the original dsm’s were 89-94 but once plymouth dropped the laser there was technically no longer a dsm line. Although still considered “dsm’s” The 95-99 eclipse/talons arent true dsm’s…and as far as them not being reliable…your an idiot for saying that since my friends had the same motor in their blue talon for over 2 years running consistant 10 second passes and 9 second passes…lets see your sti hold up to that ---
**Author:** ![Allstar\_Graphics](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/allstar_graphics/32/6287_2.png) [@Allstar\_Graphics](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Allstar_Graphics)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2008, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137/53 "2008-03-22T10:35:10Z")
yep my poor 1990 gsx was great, never let me down and it had 190k on it before i moved and had to grow up a lil. Ran a 11.5 with a small 16g, 550s, afpr, walbro lp255, 2.5 mandrel turbo back exaust,Petes custom NPR core FMIC with short piping, 2g ported mani, Joe P Embc(yea try to find one of them, they are probably more rare than any auto part i know, only a couple hundred were made from our very own local Joe P., the original MBC guy. ACT 2100, S-afc and dsm pocketlogger. There might have been some more lil things, but i always did my research and i knew how to tune a dsm with a m100 palm pilot and s-afc 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2008, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137/54 "2008-03-22T10:50:08Z")
well, since someone brought Mr. Shepherd up… that car is borderline " street car" anymore. since its existance it was registered in the state of ohio. the car may or maynot make it out this season, i had the pleasure of talking to John Shepherd at “War of The Imports” december 9,2007 @ orlando speedworld. and he said the car might be done this year. he did not race the entire 2007 season because he did not feel the car was safe enough, 7.7x @ 195mph is quite fast, even with a 7.50 cage he didnt feel like he would survive a crash, now it is built with a 6.50 cage and a bunch more changes, the old bronze volks are gone as 15x8’s just arent wide enough, now using 15x10… car is going to represent much more of a race car than it ever did. ---
**Author:** ![Vandal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/858c86/32.png) [@Vandal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vandal)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2008, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137/55 "2008-03-22T13:30:43Z")
Yeah, I’ve been keeping track of him on Tuners hehe. As of right now, he’s still optimistic about this season. He and his team are still trying to work out the safety issues. He made a lengthy post about his kids and fearing death in the car. ---
**Author:** ![Allstar\_Graphics](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/allstar_graphics/32/6287_2.png) [@Allstar\_Graphics](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Allstar_Graphics)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137/56 "2008-03-22T16:08:37Z")
toOnerz…hehehe ---
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2008, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137/57 "2008-03-23T07:51:13Z")
thats a big reason i strayed from the dsm scene…dsmtalk is full of nazi moderators and tuners is just whack now ---
**Author:** ![Vandal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/858c86/32.png) [@Vandal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vandal)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2008, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137/58 "2008-03-23T10:09:44Z")
The only problem I have with Tuners is that their diagnosis for everything is always boost leak boost leak boost leak. Then you argue with them, come back to post that they were in fact wrong, and you get banned for it. Ugh. Can’t beat the classifieds though. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/galant-vr4-dsm-or-import/236137.md?page=2)