# gamers... **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 16, 2010, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gamers/254549 "2010-09-16T15:04:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 14
**Author:** ![johnnyk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johnnyk/32/6480_2.png) [@johnnyk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/johnnyk)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gamers/254549/14 "2010-09-17T09:54:58Z")
> [@Rochester, NY (RIT) GTG - SUNDAY @ 6PM](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rochester-ny-rit-gtg-sunday-6pm/34949/52): > > Yes, they suck hence the cheaper price. The internal parts on the newer “slim” ps3’s blow cock, sony thought throwing a larger hard drive in would compensate for the internal parts and lack of style that the new ones have. This is why the older piano finish ps3’s were $600 instead of $300… Same thing happened with the ps2’s, at first they had the large ps2’s WITH a hard drive, then they got cheap on us, came out with the ps2 “slim” which does NOT have a hard drive… Go for an older piano finish ps3, preferably one with 4 usb ports on the front meaning that its backwards compatible (plays both ps2 and ps3 games) same thing when they went with the slim ps2… they all sucked and had half the accessories the larger one did. was just junk overall. id go with an older ps3 if i were you. my cousin just got one and he hasn’t had any problems. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gamers/254549)._