# Gaza doctor pleas over the phone on Israeli news channel **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 18, 2009, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513 "2009-01-18T04:41:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ecoshardcore](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ecoshardcore/32/7591_2.png) [@ecoshardcore](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ecoshardcore)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/41 "2009-01-30T14:02:28Z")
[http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1233050211857&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull](http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1233050211857&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull) / ---
**Author:** ![SideWinderGX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@SideWinderGX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SideWinderGX)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/42 "2009-01-30T14:23:11Z")
> [@ecoshardcore](#): > > [Satellite News and latest stories | The Jerusalem Post](http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1233050211857&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull) > > / Good man. People are quick to blame Israel, but if you were ever in their shoes the biggest wtf look would be forever on your face. They don’t fight fair over there. (If there is such a thing as fair warfare). ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/43 "2009-01-30T16:36:31Z")
> [@ecoshardcore](#): > > [Satellite News and latest stories | The Jerusalem Post](http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1233050211857&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull) > > / Yeah thats not going to have a biased view. Its like if I posted an Al Jezzera article. ---
**Author:** ![ecoshardcore](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ecoshardcore/32/7591_2.png) [@ecoshardcore](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ecoshardcore)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/44 "2009-01-30T18:21:44Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > Yeah thats not going to have a biased view. > > Its like if I posted an Al Jezzera article. [http://thebulletin.us/articles/2009/01/05/news/world/doc495d829dbf3d9905455780.txt](http://thebulletin.us/articles/2009/01/05/news/world/doc495d829dbf3d9905455780.txt) [http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1874850,00.html](http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1874850,00.html) [http://www.hometownlife.com/article/20090129/NEWS20/901290585](http://www.hometownlife.com/article/20090129/NEWS20/901290585) [http://www.rightsidenews.com/200901203379/global-terrorism/the-evils-of-human-shield-warfare-in-the-gaza-strip.html](http://www.rightsidenews.com/200901203379/global-terrorism/the-evils-of-human-shield-warfare-in-the-gaza-strip.html) [http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/views/orl-ophirschson1509jan15,0,3723205.story](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/views/orl-ophirschson1509jan15,0,3723205.story) Good enough for you? ---
**Author:** ![97\_B18b1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/cdc98d/32.png) [@97\_B18b1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97_B18b1)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/45 "2009-01-30T18:49:18Z")
> [@SideWinderGX](#): > > You have no idea why/when Israel was created and what they have gone through just to STAY ALIVE. Jesus, I can’t even begin to belittle your argument, you’ve got such a horribly skewed mindset. Your ‘sketchy’ facts mean nothing. > > If you define ‘region’ as Israel, multiple groups of people have ‘lived’ there, or conquered it, over the ages. > > If the UN didn’t step in and create a place like Israel, hundreds of thousands of people would have been killed. If they weren’t accepted when they were in their own country, out of everyone’s way, why would they be accepted interspersed with the rest of the Middle East? They wouldn’t. > > Iran and all the terrorist groups have been shouting they’re going to blow up the Zionist regime for years now, and they keep trying to. > > Stroked: As horrible as it is that women/children/civilians get killed, when the other side is using them as a literal human shield there is nothing you can do. go ahead and school me, and if we really are doing this make sure u cite what you school me with ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/46 "2009-01-30T21:18:51Z")
> [@ecoshardcore](#): > > [http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1874850,00.html](http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1874850,00.html) > This one has nothing to do with human shields in fact it talks about how Israeli soldiers came to a house and shot two girls. > > [http://www.hometownlife.com/article/20090129/NEWS20/901290585](http://www.hometownlife.com/article/20090129/NEWS20/901290585) > > This site is a blog and is useless. > > [http://www.rightsidenews.com/200901203379/global-terrorism/the-evils-of-human-shield-warfare-in-the-gaza-strip.html](http://www.rightsidenews.com/200901203379/global-terrorism/the-evils-of-human-shield-warfare-in-the-gaza-strip.html) > > This site didn;t even open for me but considering its called [rightsidenews.com](http://rightsidenews.com) I’m not seeing them as being that objective either. > > [http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/views/orl-ophirschson1509jan15,0,3723205.story](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/views/orl-ophirschson1509jan15,0,3723205.story) > > This one was written by Paul Hirschson is deputy consul general for the Consulate General of Israel to Florida & Puerto Rico. So he is not objective at all. > > Good enough for you? No, did you even read those articles or just do a quick google search. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/47 "2009-01-30T21:30:44Z")
> [@SideWinderGX](#): > > If you define ‘region’ as Israel, multiple groups of people have ‘lived’ there, or conquered it, over the ages. Um no, there was this thing called the Ottoman Empire that ruled the region for a couple of hundred years prior to WWI. What right did the UN have to create a nation on someone else’s land? Muslims lived there for hundreds of years, then all of a sudden European Jews start settling and its their home? Especially after the Allies promised self-determination to the Arabs for their assistance in WWI. This conflict will never end until Israel recognizes it own role in the violence. ---
**Author:** ![jetlounge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jetlounge/32/4994_2.png) [@jetlounge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jetlounge)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/48 "2009-01-30T21:50:19Z")
> [@97\_B18b1](#): > > **go ahead and school me** , and if we really are doing this make sure u cite what you school me with For starters, I would school you with this: ![http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41CYVBF7BJL._SL500_AA240_.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/5/6/5608214de0547bebcc8cdf59b154f5a3a7518c83.jpeg) ![http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ASBE5X70L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/1/6/164904d4ebb9107cd7aa234a495be0927b41bd5e.jpeg) Your posts are painful to read. Seriously, what the hell is “work war 2” ?? ---
**Author:** ![97\_B18b1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/cdc98d/32.png) [@97\_B18b1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97_B18b1)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/49 "2009-01-31T00:12:58Z")
> [@jetlounge](#): > > For starters, I would school you with this: > > ![http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41CYVBF7BJL._SL500_AA240_.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/5/6/5608214de0547bebcc8cdf59b154f5a3a7518c83.jpeg) ![http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ASBE5X70L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ASBE5X70L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg) > > Your posts are painful to read. Seriously, what the hell is “work war 2” its the internet, i use proper english when i am writing papers, not when im talking online because im not gettind graded or reviewed for nethign so it doesnt matter to me. ---
**Author:** ![97\_B18b1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/cdc98d/32.png) [@97\_B18b1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97_B18b1)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/50 "2009-01-31T00:14:29Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > Um no, there was this thing called the Ottoman Empire that ruled the region for a couple of hundred years prior to WWI. > > What right did the UN have to create a nation on someone else’s land? Muslims lived there for hundreds of years, then all of a sudden European Jews start settling and its their home? Especially after the Allies promised self-determination to the Arabs for their assistance in WWI. > > This conflict will never end until Israel recognizes it own role in the violence. stroked uve got it down in a nutshell pretty much, and he says i have no idea when israel was created. really? i said i t was created shortly after WW II, and sure enough, the country recognized themselves in 1948 ---
**Author:** ![jetlounge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jetlounge/32/4994_2.png) [@jetlounge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jetlounge)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/51 "2009-01-31T05:03:58Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > What right did the UN have to create a nation on someone else’s land? **Muslims lived there for hundreds of years, then all of a sudden European Jews start settling and its their home?** Especially after the Allies promised self-determination to the Arabs for their assistance in WWI. And I suppose you believe we should give America back to the native Indians? Oh wait they got to sell tax free cigs for years, so that’s fair. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/52 "2009-01-31T08:06:43Z")
> [@jetlounge](#): > > And I suppose you believe we should give America back to the native Indians? Oh wait they got to sell tax free cigs for years, so that’s fair. So you compare what Israel has done or is doing to the Muslims as what America did to the Native Americans in the 19th century? That would be a fair comparison I guess but with completely different peoples and societal structures, I’m mean Zionists didn’t call Israel unexplored territory, or wild territory needing to be settled, there were people living there for hundreds of years, in cities. Remember this was part of a huge Empire prior to WWI. Two wrongs don’t make a right. ---
**Author:** ![SideWinderGX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@SideWinderGX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SideWinderGX)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/53 "2009-01-31T13:16:47Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > Um no, there was this thing called the Ottoman Empire that ruled the region for a couple of hundred years prior to WWI. > > What right did the UN have to create a nation on someone else’s land? Muslims lived there for hundreds of years, then all of a sudden European Jews start settling and its their home? Especially after the Allies promised self-determination to the Arabs for their assistance in WWI. > > This conflict will never end until Israel recognizes it own role in the violence. > **[Israel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel)** > > Israel,\[a\] officially the State of Israel,\[b\] is a country in the Southern Levant region of West Asia. It is bordered by Lebanon and Syria to the north, the West Bank and Jordan to the east, Egypt, the Gaza Strip and the Red Sea to the south, and the Mediterranean Sea to the west. Tel Aviv is the country's financial, economic, and technological center. Israel's governmental seat is in its proclaimed capital of Jerusalem, although recognition of Israeli sovereignty over East Jerusalem is limit... Early roots: > Between the time of the Israelite kingdoms and the 7th-century [Muslim conquests](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquests), the Land of Israel fell under [Assyrian](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria), [Babylonian](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonia), [Persian](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Empire), [Greek](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenistic_Greece), [Roman](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire), [Sassanian](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sassanid_Empire), and [Byzantine](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire) rule.[[26]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel#cite_note-25) Jewish presence in the region dwindled after the failure of the [Bar Kokhba revolt](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt) against the [Roman Empire](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire) in 132 CE and the resultant large-scale expulsion of Jews. In 628/9, the Byzantine Emperor [Heraclius](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclius) conducted a massacre and [expulsion of the Jews](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolt_against_Heraclius), at which point the Jewish population probably reached its lowest point. Nevertheless, a continuous Jewish presence in the Land of Israel remained. Although the main Jewish population shifted from the [Judea](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea) region to the [Galilee](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galilee),[[27]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel#cite_note-26) the [Mishnah](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mishnah) and [part of the Talmud](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Talmud), among Judaism’s most important religious texts, were composed in Israel during this period.[[28]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel#cite_note-27) The Land of Israel was captured from the [Byzantine Empire](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire) around 636 CE during the initial Muslim conquests. Control of the region transferred between the [Umayyads](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad),[[29]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel#cite_note-28) [Abbasids](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbasid),[[30]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel#cite_note-29) and [Crusaders](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusader_states) over the next six centuries, before falling in the hands of the [Mamluk](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamluk) Sultanate, in 1260. In 1516, the Land of Israel became a part of the [Ottoman Empire](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire), which ruled the region until the 20th century.[[31]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel#cite_note-30) What right did the Nazis have to execute Jews? What right did the Palestinians have to kill Jews before 1948, when Israel was created? I could do this all day too. Israel has always kept to itself, unless it was to defend herself. There was a war just as the country was forged, it wasn’t recognized by the neighboring countries and has been attacked countlessly since it’s inception. If the people in the region would stop bombing Israel, they would stop invading Gaza and the neighboring countries. It’s as simple as that. It’s like if you see a bear out in the forest and don’t want it there because you’re 4-wheeling. What the hell do you think the bear will do if you piss it off? And why would you get mad at the bear for doing EXACTLY what you thought it would do? :picard: ---
**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/54 "2009-01-31T14:12:49Z")
> [@SideWinderGX](#): > > [Israel - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel) > > Early roots: > > What right did the Nazis have to execute Jews? What right did the Palestinians have to kill Jews before 1948, when Israel was created? I could do this all day too. > > Israel has always kept to itself, unless it was to defend herself. There was a war just as the country was forged, it wasn’t recognized by the neighboring countries and has been attacked countlessly since it’s inception. If the people in the region would stop bombing Israel, they would stop invading Gaza and the neighboring countries. It’s as simple as that. > > It’s like if you see a bear out in the forest and don’t want it there because you’re 4-wheeling. What the hell do you think the bear will do if you piss it off? And why would you get mad at the bear for doing EXACTLY what you thought it would do? :picard: How is a wild animal related to a civil society with a functioning government? Israel has always kept to itself… except when they are slowly and deliberately settling on Palestinian land after demolishing their homes and terrorizing them out of the areas. What do the Nazis have to do with the Palestinian people and their hospitals, homes, children and infrastructure? Stick that Wikipedia article in your ass since that is where your logic comes from. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/55 "2009-01-31T14:17:19Z")
> [@Violator](#): > > How is a wild animal related to a civil society with a functioning government fucking moron? > > Israel has always kept to itself… except when they are slowly and deliberately settling on Palestinian land after demolishing their homes and terrorizing them out of the areas. What do the Nazis have to do with the Palestinian people and their hospitals, homes, children and infrastructure? > > Stick that Wikipedia article in your ass since that is where your logic comes from. I could have responded to him but I would just be repeating you so. :tup: x2 And the last sentence of your Wiki search repeats what I said, which was that the region of Israel belonged to the Ottomans for hundreds of years. ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/56 "2009-01-31T14:20:28Z")
In my opinion the Israel government can be classified as a terrorist organization here. For decades they have been intentionally trying to destroy the muslim community in the area by breaking up the community, patronizing the residents, bulldozing homes illegally, bombing cities, ect. They are trying to cause terror in the minds and hearts of the Islam community in the area. Lets also not forget that Israel’s occupation of Palestine is and always has been an illegal one. ---
**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/57 "2009-01-31T14:27:15Z")
Let me shed some real clarity on what Israel intentions/policies are: How many people in the US have heard of Dense Inert Metal Explosives (DIME). In addition to White Phosphorus Israel has used Tungsten based DIME bombs against the PEOPLE of Palestine. > **['Tungsten bombs' leave Israel's victims with mystery wounds](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/tungsten-bombs-leave-israels-victims-with-mystery-wounds-1418910.html)** > > Israel was facing demands for war crimes investigations as it declared a unilateral ceasefire in Gaza last night after a 22-day assault in which more than 1,200 Palestinians, a third of them children, were killed and 13 Israelis died. This is some SERIOUSLY fucked up and LETHAL shit: [http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=5648](http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=5648) This is a Genocide weapon and will kill and severely sicken this and the next generation of Palestinians. This is unforgivable and goes far beyond disgusting. This shit is partly responsible for “Gulf War Syndrome” and is killing American soldiers…slowly. The US government will never directly admit this. This is certainly WAR CRIME material ---
**Author:** ![97\_B18b1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/cdc98d/32.png) [@97\_B18b1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97_B18b1)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/58 "2009-01-31T14:38:36Z")
> [@SideWinderGX](#): > > [Israel - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel) > > Early roots: > > What right did the Nazis have to execute Jews? What right did the Palestinians have to kill Jews before 1948, when Israel was created? I could do this all day too. > > Israel has always kept to itself, unless it was to defend herself. There was a war just as the country was forged, it wasn’t recognized by the neighboring countries and has been attacked countlessly since it’s inception. If the people in the region would stop bombing Israel, they would stop invading Gaza and the neighboring countries. It’s as simple as that. > > It’s like if you see a bear out in the forest and don’t want it there because you’re 4-wheeling. What the hell do you think the bear will do if you piss it off? And why would you get mad at the bear for doing EXACTLY what you thought it would do? :picard: your views are totally distorted. Israel and palestine have always fought over the gaza strip because each of their gods “promised it to them” and we had to step in and take israels side. I wont go intot he reasons kuz i will just get flamed. Now, just because israel was created in late 1947 doesnt mean that there were not jews in the area fighting over the land. At the time tough, the ottoman empire was in control of that area and that small strip of land was not as important to them. Israels creation has caused so much destruction and death, and we supported it. And thre is no credible historian newhere who would tell u we didnt support it. ---
**Author:** ![97\_B18b1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/cdc98d/32.png) [@97\_B18b1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97_B18b1)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/59 "2009-01-31T14:41:37Z")
> [@Violator](#): > > Let me shed some real clarity on what Israel intentions/policies are: > How many people in the US have heard of Dense Inert Metal Explosives (DIME). > > In addition to White Phosphorus Israel has used Tungsten based DIME bombs against the PEOPLE of Palestine. > > ['Tungsten bombs' leave Israel's victims with mystery wounds | The Independent | The Independent](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/tungsten-bombs-leave-israels-victims-with-mystery-wounds-1418910.html) > > This is some SERIOUSLY fucked up and LETHAL shit: > > [http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=5648](http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=5648) > > This is a Genocide weapon and will kill and severely sicken this and the next generation of Palestinians. > This is unforgivable and goes far beyond disgusting. > This shit is partly responsible for “Gulf War Syndrome” and is killing American soldiers…slowly. The US government will never directly admit this. > > This is certainly WAR CRIME material of course it is. but take a look at WHO sells them the materials and loans them money and sells them plans and contracts out engineers to build these weapons. If this death and destruction wasnt happeneing, the number one arms manufacturer in the world (us) wouldnt be making any money. Its one of the only industries left in which we produce a whole lot more then we consume from others. Its pretty damn recession proof if u ask me. ---
**Author:** ![ecoshardcore](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ecoshardcore/32/7591_2.png) [@ecoshardcore](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ecoshardcore)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513/60 "2009-01-31T14:42:27Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > No, did you even read those articles or just do a quick google search. I did pick the first couple of links that came up because i was on my way out the door. If the soldier actually shot the kid then he should go to jail. I actually meant to comment on that but forgot to. I do however have many more links that talk about hamas using human shields fromnews agencies all over the world. [http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20090131/OPINION04/901310308/1038/Opinion](http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20090131/OPINION04/901310308/1038/Opinion) Just a quick article, Hamas’s charter calls for the destruction of Israel. How can you sit down and negotiate peace with a fanatical enemy like that? [http://www.dailycollegian.com/editorial\_opinion/isreal\_s\_victimization\_continues-1.1318283](http://www.dailycollegian.com/editorial_opinion/isreal_s_victimization_continues-1.1318283) Good article from a student about the supposed victimization of Hamas and how the palestinians have rejected generous offers of land from Israel to form their own state. Also good statistics about casualty rates > **[The Cutting Edge News](http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?article=1059&pageid=16&pagename=Opinion)** > > The Cutting Edge News: News, Views, Opinions Talks about how hamas uses the “dead baby” policy of shock and how it deliberately uses civilian areas to fire rockets from. Even Obama agrees with Israel in this article. > **[When the Human Shield Slips](https://townhall.com/columnists/austinbay/2009/01/14/when_the_human_shield_slips-n1302773)** > > The phrase More about how Hamas and their terror tactics against Israel and Palestinians > **[UN envoy: Hamas uses Gazans as human shields](https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3655758,00.html)** > > In letter of complaint to Ban Ki-Moon, Security Council Gabriela Shalev says Islamist group operating out of mosques, schools and private homes; adds Hamas war room discovered under largest hospital in Strip More human shields! > **[Satellite News and latest stories | The Jerusalem Post](https://www.jpost.com/Tags/satellite)** > > Breaking news about Satellite from The Jerusalem Post. Read the latest updates on Satellite including articles, videos, opinions and more. Story about how Isreal is using recon pictures to prove Hamas was using schools and hospitals to launch rocket attacks > **[Hamas uses Gaza Palestinians as human shield - Israeli envoy](https://sputnikglobe.com/20090113/119469968.html)** > > Hamas is holding civilians hostage and using them as human shields during Israel's assault on the Gaza Strip, Israel's ambassador to Russia said on Tuesday. > **[Fate Of One Family Illustrates Gaza War's Ferocity](https://www.npr.org/2009/01/27/99889479/fate-of-one-family-illustrates-gaza-wars-ferocity)** > > Israeli attacks killed at least 29 members of the Samouni family in Gaza City. It's among the incidents that are prompting calls for a probe of alleged violations of the laws of war by Hamas militants and Israeli soldiers during recent fighting in... That one talked about both sides of the conflict. > **[Hamas' war crimes](https://www.latimes.com/opinion/la-oe-dershowitz10-2009jan10-story.html)** > > In Gaza, it targets Israeli citizens with rockets, then shields its fighters behind Palestinian civilians. Ill grant you that this one is an op-ed piece, but the facts that are in it remain. In the mean time I will find the videos of Hamas moving rocket launchers right infront of schools. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gaza-doctor-pleas-over-the-phone-on-israeli-news-channel/61513.md?page=4)