# GB:  Apexi Power FC and Commander

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417>\
**Category:** Vendor Marketplace\
**Created:** [January 31, 2006, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417 "2006-01-31T07:45:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/41 "2006-02-08T12:39:01Z")

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> [@Avery](#):
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> For 5 or more people it’s $1115 CAD.
> 
> - Spilner : CONFIRMED
> - Benson : now 90 % CONFIRMED
> - Alex : CONFIRMED - Deposit Received.
> - Gonad : CONFIRMED
> - cvm07 ?
> - Hurricane : CONFIRMED  
> -avery - so its 1115 + 260 D-Jetro for everything i need to run map sensor ?

Correct.

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**Author:** ![s13Junkyard](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13junkyard/32/5502_2.png) [@s13Junkyard](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s13Junkyard)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/42 "2006-02-08T13:45:21Z")

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- Spilner : CONFIRMED
- Benson : now 90 % CONFIRMED
- Alex : CONFIRMED - Deposit Received.
- Gonad : CONFIRMED
- cvm07 ?
- Hurricane : CONFIRMED
- Avery -=D-Jetro Baller=-

what kind of warranty do these expensive units come with?

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**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/43 "2006-02-14T07:10:22Z")

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Sorry, just realized I didn’t answer this question here yet.

Apexi states that there is no warranty on PowerFc units in their product documentation:

[http://www.apexi-usa.com/pdf/productDocumentation/197.pdf](http://www.apexi-usa.com/pdf/productDocumentation/197.pdf)

- Spilner : CONFIRMED
- Benson : now 90 % CONFIRMED
- Alex : CONFIRMED - Deposit Received.
- Gonad : CONFIRMED
- cvm07 ?
- Hurricane : CONFIRMED
- Avery -=D-Jetro Baller=-

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**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/44 "2006-02-14T10:02:03Z")

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What’s your pricing on the D-Jetro units?

And about the warranty…I’m sure it will be honoured if you hand us a  
defective unit.

> **This product is designed for use with stock vehicles**  
> Apex is not responsible for stock vehicles.  
> any malfunction, damage, or accidents  
> caused by the use of this product on a  
> modified vehicle. No warranty claim will be  
> honored if the unit has been installed on a modified vehicle.

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**Author:** ![QuincyRedS14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/dbc845/32.png) [@QuincyRedS14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/QuincyRedS14)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/45 "2006-02-14T19:51:22Z")

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- Spilner : CONFIRMED
- Benson : now 90 % CONFIRMED
- Alex : CONFIRMED - Deposit Received.
- Gonad : CONFIRMED
- cvm07 ?
- Hurricane : CONFIRMED
- Avery -=D-Jetro Baller=-  
-Quincy

I havent decided if I wanted a D-Jetro yet. Let me sell my 300zx MAF first. Can I get it cheaper without the game boy? How much is the boost control kit?

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**Author:** ![spilner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@spilner](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spilner)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/46 "2006-02-14T23:55:04Z")

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yeah i think i want to go d-jetro too, and whats the cost on the boost solinoid??

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**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/47 "2006-02-15T06:36:15Z")

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It’s $425 CAD for the Boost Control Kit.

I have updated the original post with all other relevant information and pricing.

EDIT:

Current List:

- Spilner : CONFIRMED
- Benson : No Money, not confirmed.
- Alex : CONFIRMED - Deposit Received.
- Gonad : CONFIRMED
- cvm07 ?
- Hurricane : CONFIRMED
- Avery -=D-Jetro Baller=-
- Quincy

cmv07 ??  
Avery and Quincy are you confirmed?

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**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/48 "2006-02-15T10:21:53Z")

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If the cut-off is 28th and we don’t know what the final pricing will be (since  
there are two prices for 5 and 10 people), how much of a deposit do you want?

I can give you 50% of the cost for with 5-people.

Let me know when/where I can give you the $. West-End meet before Feb. 28th perhaps?

Current List:

- Spilner : CONFIRMED
- Benson : No Money, not confirmed.
- Alex : CONFIRMED - Deposit Received.
- Gonad : CONFIRMED - D-Jetro (PN: **414-N023** which is for 96-99 RPS13 Blacktop )
- cvm07 ?
- Hurricane : CONFIRMED
- Avery -=D-Jetro Baller=-
- Quincy

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**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/49 "2006-02-15T13:07:55Z")

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Gonad, most people are sending me EMT deposits, but if you want to meet up, I can meet with you tonight/tomorrow, then I’m out of town until the 26th and I won’t have access to the internet.

50% of the 5 people price is fine, also if you want the D-Jetro unit, you will need to pay a 50% deposit on the sensors as well.

If anyone wants to pay thru EMT or paypal, the email address to use is **phillip** dot **yap** at **gmail** dot **com** (just remove the non bold words and replace them with . @ and . so that it makes a valid email addy.)

I’ll update the list with any payments as soon as I get back (late on the 26th)

Current List:

- Spilner : CONFIRMED
- Benson : No Money, not confirmed.
- Alex : CONFIRMED - **Deposit Received**.
- Gonad : CONFIRMED - D-Jetro (PN: 414-N023 which is for 96-99 RPS13 Blacktop )
- cvm07 ?
- Hurricane : CONFIRMED
- Avery -=D-Jetro Baller=-
- Quincy

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**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/50 "2006-02-15T14:10:32Z")

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Sounds good Phil. I will forward you a deposit through EMT just before the deadline.

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**Author:** ![QuincyRedS14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/dbc845/32.png) [@QuincyRedS14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/QuincyRedS14)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/51 "2006-02-15T17:45:10Z")

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I am not confirmed. I don’t even know if I want a D-or L Jetro yet. Is there any price difference in the 2 units other than the sensors?

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**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/52 "2006-02-15T18:02:49Z")

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> [@QuincyRedS14](#):
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> I am not confirmed. I don’t even know if I want a D-or L Jetro yet. Is there any price difference in the 2 units other than the sensors?

See first post. ECU cost same, MAP kit is another $260. Well worth the  
upgrade imho. I don’t believe you can add on the MAP kit later with the L-Jetro ECU.

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**Author:** ![spilner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@spilner](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spilner)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/53 "2006-02-16T01:13:34Z")

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- Spilner : CONFIRMED - **D-Jetro**!
- Benson : No Money, not confirmed.
- Alex : CONFIRMED - Deposit Received.
- Gonad : CONFIRMED - D-Jetro (PN: 414-N023 which is for 96-99 RPS13 Blacktop )
- cvm07 ?
- Hurricane : CONFIRMED
- Avery -=D-Jetro Baller=-
- Quincy

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**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/54 "2006-02-16T12:59:12Z")

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Could you guys please update the list with the PN for your engine next to your name, D-Jetro or L-Jetro, as well if you want the boost control unit.

Here is the application list that I have with PNs:

414AN013 Power FC 93-96 SR20DET Silvia S14（Before Minor Change）  
414AN014 Power FC 91-94 SR20DET 180SX RPS13(B/M/C) (Red Valve Cover)  
414AN015 Power FC 91-94 SR20DET 180SX RPS13(Mid Minor Change)  
414AN016 Power FC 96-99 SR20DET Silvia S14（After Minor Change）  
414AN017 Power FC 96-99 SR20DET 180SX RPS13(After Minor Change）  
414AN018 Power FC 99-02 SR20DET Silvia S15  
414AN019 Power FC 93-96 SR20DET Silvia S14（B/M/C） D-Jetro  
414AN020 Power FC 91-94 SR20DET Silvia S13/ RPS13 D-Jetro  
414AN021 Power FC 93-96 SR20DET 180SX (Mid Minor Change) D-Jetro  
414AN023 Power FC 96-99 SR20DET 180SX RPS13(A/M/C） D-Jetro  
414AN024 Power FC 99-02 SR20DET Silvia S15 D-Jetro

- Spilner : CONFIRMED - **D-Jetro**! (PN: 414AN019)
- Benson : No Money, not confirmed.
- Alex : CONFIRMED - **Deposit Received**.
- Gonad : CONFIRMED - D-Jetro (PN: 414AN023 which is for 96-99 RPS13 Blacktop )
- cvm07 ?
- Hurricane : CONFIRMED
- Avery -=D-Jetro Baller=-
- Quincy

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**Author:** ![spilner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@spilner](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spilner)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/55 "2006-02-16T14:14:12Z")

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whats included in the boost control kit?

with an AEM EMS all you need is a boost solinoid, $60 ish…

why is it $425???

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**Author:** ![Alex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@Alex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alex)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/56 "2006-02-16T15:07:48Z")

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- Spilner : CONFIRMED - D-Jetro! (PN: 414AN019)
- Benson : No Money, not confirmed.
- Alex : CONFIRMED - Deposit Received. L-jetro (414AN014 Power FC 91-94 SR20DET 180SX RPS13)
- Gonad : CONFIRMED - D-Jetro (PN: 414AN023 which is for 96-99 RPS13 Blacktop )
- cvm07 ?
- Hurricane : CONFIRMED
- Avery -=D-Jetro Baller=-
- Quincy

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**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2006, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/57 "2006-02-17T05:55:03Z")

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> [@spilner](#):
>
> whats included in the boost control kit?
> 
> with an AEM EMS all you need is a boost solinoid, $60 ish…
> 
> why is it $425???

I’m not sure exactly what’s in the boost control kit, from my understanding, the Power FC unit can control boost up to one bar, over that and you need the boost control kit.

So if you will only be running one bar, then you don’t need the boost control unit.

Maybe if someone who actually has experience with the Power FC could tune in here. Dan?

As for the price, that is what it sells for, I don’t know if you can use a universal solinoid or w/e to make it work. Maybe you could try it out?

MSRP on it is $389 USD without shipping/customs.

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**Author:** ![Happy240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/happy240sx/32/5515_2.png) [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2006, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/58 "2006-02-17T06:17:17Z")

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Hey Ty

As far as I know the Boost Controller Kit for the PFC is all the hardware typically found with the AVC-R.

So not only do you have a boost sensor but also a stepping motor / actuator and all other crap.

Therefore, the price for this is going to very compatible to that of the AVC-R seeing as how it is essentially the same thing.

That being said - many PFC guys have opted to not use the boost controller option and have gone with the standalone AVC-R. The AVC-R has far more adjustabilty / features that th PFC unit.

The only advantage the PFC boost conroller has is that it will cut fuel if/when there is a boost spike…but any AVC-R user will tell you that simply doesn’t happen when setup correctly.

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**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2006, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/59 "2006-02-17T07:04:26Z")

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Dan, I’ve just been reading up a bit more on it, but since I don’t have actual experience with the unit, this is all specualtion, but I believe the PFC boost control kit also comes with a 3 bar map sensor which is needed to run more than 17 psi, have you run more than that yet and if you did, where there any problems?

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**Author:** ![Happy240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/happy240sx/32/5515_2.png) [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2006, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gb-apexi-power-fc-and-commander/92417/60 "2006-02-17T07:09:49Z")

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Yeah - it does - but it is the same 3bar MAP that comes with the AVC-R.

The PFC boost controller is really just all the hardware from an AVC-R but the boost adjustment is done through the commander.

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