# German Engineering + Japanese car= **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [May 5, 2006, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679 "2006-05-05T08:58:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RobY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@RobY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobY)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/1 "2006-05-05T08:58:41Z")
Catostrophic Failure… Dosent work out. This is what happens when you put a Sachs “heavy duty” Dual Mass Clutch/Flywheel Assembly on a Legacy GT making 325 wtq… Victim 1: ![http://www.pimpmyauto.com/Pictures/B_clutch/DSC03898.JPG](http://www.pimpmyauto.com/Pictures/B_clutch/DSC03898.JPG) ![http://www.pimpmyauto.com/Pictures/B_clutch/DSC03893.JPG](http://www.pimpmyauto.com/Pictures/B_clutch/DSC03893.JPG) ![http://www.pimpmyauto.com/Pictures/B_clutch/Large/DSC03894.JPG](http://www.pimpmyauto.com/Pictures/B_clutch/Large/DSC03894.JPG) ![http://www.pimpmyauto.com/Pictures/B_clutch/DSC03895.JPG](http://www.pimpmyauto.com/Pictures/B_clutch/DSC03895.JPG) Victim 2: ![http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/RobY6298/OtherCars/P7170021.jpg](http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/RobY6298/OtherCars/P7170021.jpg) ![http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/RobY6298/OtherCars/P7170020.jpg](http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/RobY6298/OtherCars/P7170020.jpg) ![http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/RobY6298/OtherCars/P7170018.jpg](http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/RobY6298/OtherCars/P7170018.jpg) ![http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/RobY6298/OtherCars/P7170017.jpg](http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/RobY6298/OtherCars/P7170017.jpg) ![http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/RobY6298/OtherCars/P7170023.jpg](http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/RobY6298/OtherCars/P7170023.jpg) ![http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/RobY6298/OtherCars/P7170026.jpg](http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/RobY6298/OtherCars/P7170026.jpg) Plenty more victims where this came from :mad: Needless to say… Subaru should have saved money and went with a more traditonal setup as most of us agree this stock clutch is a peice of shit. Compared to a stock wrx clutch this thing is a steaming pile of dinosaur dung and thats being nice. My car is just a stg II and I cant launch the damn thing without getting super clutch slip and stinking up the neighborhood. ---
**Author:** ![Slomies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Slomies](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slomies)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/2 "2006-05-05T09:01:48Z")
spend the cash and get a better cluctch then … ---
**Author:** ![RobY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@RobY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobY)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/3 "2006-05-05T09:03:40Z")
> [@Slomies](#): > > spend the cash and get a better cluctch then … Its on its way 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/4 "2006-05-05T09:22:08Z")
…and I thought Sach’s made good stuff. Mine’s holding my rotation-of-the-earth altering 160wtq just fine. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ly555is](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/5 "2006-05-05T10:25:47Z")
is that the stock clutch? \<— doesn’t know much about these cars wow. ---
**Author:** ![RobY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@RobY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobY)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/6 "2006-05-05T10:28:54Z")
^Yes stock clutch ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/7 "2006-05-05T10:29:52Z")
> [@RobY](#): > > Sachs “heavy duty” Dual Mass Clutch/Flywheel Assembly on a Legacy GT making 325 wtq… ^^^ ---
**Author:** ![Tkklemann](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tkklemann/32/7298_2.png) [@Tkklemann](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tkklemann)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/8 "2006-05-05T10:49:51Z")
That’s a beauty. Sound like a stock Evo clutch. Although a stock Evo clutch is more like post mighty asshole trauma. ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/9 "2006-05-05T10:59:09Z")
so what new clutch did u go with ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/10 "2006-05-05T11:16:53Z")
Awesome, note to self… Assuming that’s not yours 😛 ---
**Author:** ![rj-92](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rj-92/32/7310_2.png) [@rj-92](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rj-92)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/11 "2006-05-05T11:41:41Z")
organic clutches \< \* ---
**Author:** ![RobY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@RobY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobY)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/12 "2006-05-05T11:55:22Z")
> [@MaximaSE98](#): > > so what new clutch did u go with RPS MAX ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/13 "2006-05-05T12:43:49Z")
this is why the axis powers lost the war 😛 ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/14 "2006-05-05T13:02:31Z")
> [@Carnut](#): > > this is why the axis powers lost the war 😛 ROFLZ ---
**Author:** ![evilsrt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evilsrt/32/7470_2.png) [@evilsrt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evilsrt)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2006, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/15 "2006-05-07T10:23:09Z")
Same thing happened to me and the “performance” clutch that Sachs makes for the SRT-4. Mine also gave me a little hole in the bellhousing. ---
**Author:** ![JDMR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdmr2/32/7587_2.png) [@JDMR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMR2)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2006, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/16 "2006-05-07T10:26:08Z")
> [@Carnut](#): > > this is why the axis powers lost the war 😛 LOL ---
**Author:** ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2006, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/17 "2006-05-07T12:33:37Z")
But what is the stock WTQ for a Legacy GT? ---
**Author:** ![RobY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@RobY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobY)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2006, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/18 "2006-05-07T12:37:51Z")
230 or so… but the dealer did the damage for victim 1 and victim 2 had less WTQ than victim 1. ---
**Author:** ![ugo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ugo/32/7430_2.png) [@ugo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ugo)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2006, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-engineering-japanese-car/11679/19 "2006-05-07T14:11:00Z")
Sachs, They make mopeds and chain saws also :tdown: