# German Pushrods

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606>\
**Category:** Builds\
**Created:** [August 17, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606 "2011-08-17T19:14:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Anonymity](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/anonymity/32/7215_2.png) [@Anonymity](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Anonymity)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2011, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/61 "2011-12-30T11:15:09Z")

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looking good.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/62 "2012-01-18T15:50:10Z")

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Haven’t touched this in a month, I ordered ARP’s and the appropriate cam gear for the 3 bolt cam using the ‘new’ style engine management triggers… with overnight shipping… they showed up 28 days later. Needless to say I know one vendor in Texas I’ll never deal with again. Anyway, started putting the motor together today, and have another batch of prototype stuff on the way. All of this stuff should be final revisions so I’m hoping to have them in production in the next few weeks. Should allow for massive steering angle.

![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/404671_3024943153287_1554023596_32865734_515971118_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/404671_3024943153287_1554023596_32865734_515971118_n.jpg)  
 ![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404776_3025845135836_1554023596_32865911_1017328162_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404776_3025845135836_1554023596_32865911_1017328162_n.jpg)  
 ![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397176_3025849815953_1554023596_32865912_452512940_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397176_3025849815953_1554023596_32865912_452512940_n.jpg)

Unfortunately, the company that is producing the e46 LS parts keeps bumping their schedule back on releasing stuff, so it looks like I’m going to have to make motor mounts and headers again, not what I wanted to do, but oh well.

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**Author:** ![Shockwave179](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shockwave179/32/7496_2.png) [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/63 "2012-01-18T16:21:57Z")

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Hmm TSP or Thunder, if it’s TSP I can’t say I’m surprised.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/64 "2012-01-18T16:39:27Z")

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Neither

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**Author:** ![Axis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/axis/32/5149_2.png) [@Axis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Axis)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/65 "2012-01-18T19:17:12Z")

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I love your builds, they’re always something interesting. With e46 prices going down and there being so many of them I bet soon there’ll be a decent demand for those parts too.

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**Author:** ![dftsilvia](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dftsilvia/32/7447_2.png) [@dftsilvia](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dftsilvia)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/66 "2012-01-18T19:43:50Z")

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im digging all this custom fab, but this whole ls swapping into everything is getting kinda old.

u watch formula D and all u hear is V8’s, when u watch D1 most of the cars still run what the car came with. plus i just love the sound of fully spooled turbos

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/67 "2012-01-18T20:12:19Z")

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> [@dftsilvia](#):
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> im digging all this custom fab, but this whole ls swapping into everything is getting kinda old.
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> u watch formula D and all u hear is V8’s, when u watch D1 most of the cars still run what the car came with. plus i just love the sound of fully spooled turbos

I don’t want to get into a FD vs D1 debate, because I really don’t give a fuck what they are doing over there. But most of those cars are NOT running what they originally came with. I don’t care if it’s I4, V6, V8, V10, V12 or other. As long as it makes power and is fun to drive.

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**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/68 "2012-01-18T21:20:31Z")

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> [@dftsilvia](#):
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> im digging all this custom fab, but this whole ls swapping into everything is getting kinda old.
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> u watch formula D and all u hear is V8’s, when u watch D1 most of the cars still run what the car came with. plus i just love the sound of fully spooled turbos

Fggt.  
Stop going into V8 build threads and complaining about people swapping in V8s.

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/69 "2012-01-19T05:57:40Z")

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Looking great

I think when you’re building a race car, you probably stop caring about what is the popular/cool thing to do, and worry more about what is going to create the best results on the track, as well as what is going to be reliable and ready to go when race days come along. If you’ve got the resources, why not just make it as rock solid as can be?

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/70 "2012-01-19T06:19:27Z")

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Where are you looking to get LS/e46 swap parts from?

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/71 "2012-01-19T06:42:06Z")

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Vorshlag is releasing their stuff at some point, but their time table doesn’t look like it is going to work for me. They are saying motor mounts sometime next month and headers maybe in March. I’m sure they are making a fantastic kit, I just can’t wait that long as their product has already been delayed longer than I would have liked. They area busy shop, so it’s understandable, just doesn’t work for me.

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**Author:** ![GV1390](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gv1390/32/5432_2.png) [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/72 "2012-01-19T06:45:52Z")

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> [@Minglor](#):
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> Fggt.  
> Stop going into V8 build threads and complaining about people swapping in V8s.

:tup:

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**Author:** ![dftsilvia](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dftsilvia/32/7447_2.png) [@dftsilvia](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dftsilvia)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/73 "2012-01-19T21:28:31Z")

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> [@Minglor](#):
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> Fggt.  
> Stop going into V8 build threads and complaining about people swapping in V8s.

stop driving a fggt miata! that is all not going to clutter this up

still cant wait to see your custom suspension setup !

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**Author:** ![95dime](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/95dime/32/7514_2.png) [@95dime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95dime)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/74 "2012-01-20T05:50:17Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> Vorshlag is releasing their stuff at some point, but their time table doesn’t look like it is going to work for me. They are saying motor mounts sometime next month and headers maybe in March. I’m sure they are making a fantastic kit, I just can’t wait that long as their product has already been delayed longer than I would have liked. They area busy shop, so it’s understandable, just doesn’t work for me.

why not just make your own motor mounts to set the motor where you want it and then have your own headers made up to match the performance characteristics of the motors power and your needs for driving the car, instead of using an average all around setup?

i just say this because the majority of swap motor mounts and headers i see for any car ive looked at, i wasnt too impressed with. plus you have an issue with time.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/75 "2012-01-20T06:40:11Z")

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It’s pretty hard to fuck up LS components, in terms of “swap” stuff. I already have to go custom trans mount, driveshaft, exhaust, fuel, wiring. So I was hoping to get at least a couple “off the shelf” parts. Sadly, not going to happen. Vorshlag makes their stuff specifically for e36 (and soon e46), and the quality looks great.

 ![http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Product-Pictures/Vorshlag-E36-LS1-Swap-Kit/DSC0003/880165865_YVgQU-L.jpg](http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Product-Pictures/Vorshlag-E36-LS1-Swap-Kit/DSC0003/880165865_YVgQU-L.jpg)

However, the time table just isn’t going to work for me. After doing motor mounts and headers on the VK/350z, I wasn’t a fan of the process, that’s mostly why I wanted to avoid it. The Vorshlag e46 stuff puts the motor right where I want it too, so that’s not really a concern (they are track car guys too).

![http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/E46-Alpha-Car/i-CVQL6pf/0/S/DSC5859-S.jpg](http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/E46-Alpha-Car/i-CVQL6pf/0/S/DSC5859-S.jpg)  
 ![http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/E46-Alpha-Car/i-SbCzCTj/0/S/DSC5864-marked-S.jpg](http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/E46-Alpha-Car/i-SbCzCTj/0/S/DSC5864-marked-S.jpg) ![http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/E46-Alpha-Car/i-TbrZBks/0/S/DSC5874-S.jpg](http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/E46-Alpha-Car/i-TbrZBks/0/S/DSC5874-S.jpg)  
 ![http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/E46-Alpha-Car/i-GR4Jpw8/0/S/DSC5868-S.jpg](http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/E46-Alpha-Car/i-GR4Jpw8/0/S/DSC5868-S.jpg) ![http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/E46-Alpha-Car/i-M4t8MQt/0/S/DSC5875-S.jpg](http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/E46-Alpha-Car/i-M4t8MQt/0/S/DSC5875-S.jpg)  
 ![http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/E46-Alpha-Car/i-SPC9Xpm/0/M/DSC5990-M.jpg](http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Projects/E46-Alpha-Car/i-SPC9Xpm/0/M/DSC5990-M.jpg)  
(images from their e46 alpha build thread)

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**Author:** ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/76 "2012-01-20T07:03:39Z")

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Looks like that LS1 Sits nice and low in there :tup:

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**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/77 "2012-01-20T07:48:39Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> After doing motor mounts and headers on the VK/350z, I wasn’t a fan of the process, that’s mostly why I wanted to avoid it.

Can you elaborate on this a bit?

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**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/78 "2012-01-20T07:49:04Z")

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double post

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/79 "2012-01-20T11:12:52Z")

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> [@travisn](#):
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> Can you elaborate on this a bit?

It’s a pain in the dick making motor mounts and headers.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/80 "2012-01-20T11:12:53Z")

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> [@travisn](#):
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> Can you elaborate on this a bit?

It’s a pain in the dick making motor mounts and headers.

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