# German Pushrods

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606>\
**Category:** Builds\
**Created:** [August 17, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606 "2011-08-17T19:14:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/81 "2012-01-20T14:20:54Z")

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![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/399505_3041478006648_1554023596_32870124_1674559028_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/399505_3041478006648_1554023596_32870124_1674559028_n.jpg)  
 ![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/394458_3041493447034_1554023596_32870126_164171268_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/394458_3041493447034_1554023596_32870126_164171268_n.jpg)  
Finished putting the top end together, started sealing the motor up. Should be test fitting it this weekend if all goes well.  
Comp 921 Valve Springs, Titanium retainers, Comp 921 Pushrods, G6X3 cam, LS3 rockets, C5R timing chain, Melling Oil pump was the stuff installed in those photos.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/82 "2012-01-20T16:07:22Z")

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![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/399895_3042073061524_1554023596_32870273_79769900_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/399895_3042073061524_1554023596_32870273_79769900_n.jpg)  
Screw in spherical ball joint installed in prototype control arm.

![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/406292_3042140303205_1554023596_32870282_502305325_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/406292_3042140303205_1554023596_32870282_502305325_n.jpg)  
Prototype control arm with screw in spherical ball joint, quick steering adapter, with extended ball joint shank and tie rod shank.

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**Author:** ![Henry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/henry/32/5920_2.png) [@Henry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Henry)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/83 "2012-01-20T16:08:43Z")

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Loving the build:tup:! I pm’ed you also

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**Author:** ![Shockwave179](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shockwave179/32/7496_2.png) [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/84 "2012-01-20T17:39:00Z")

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Good choice on the timing chain and oil pump. I want a ride if this thing ever makes it back to Rochester.

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**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/85 "2012-01-20T17:41:41Z")

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What drew you to the G6X3 cam?  
LG doesn’t seem to release specs on them

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/86 "2012-01-20T17:58:39Z")

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Mingle, it makes good power, has a nice curve, and I spoke to them on the phone about what I was doing and liked what they had to say. They sold me on a sales pitch what can I say.

> [@Shockwave179](#):
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> Good choice on the timing chain and oil pump. I want a ride if this thing ever makes it back to Rochester.

I’m moving back March 1st.

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**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/87 "2012-01-20T18:33:55Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> Mingle, it makes good power, has a nice curve, and I spoke to them on the phone about what I was doing and liked what they had to say. They sold me on a sales pitch what can I say.

Fair enough.

I’ve been shopping for a mild cam and just curious.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/88 "2012-01-20T18:34:41Z")

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G6x3 for LS3 is the largest you can put in without flycutting. hahaha

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**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/89 "2012-01-20T18:37:03Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> G6x3 for LS3 is the largest you can put in without flycutting. hahaha

Mine is still set-up for the Trex cam but I think it will be much more than I need.  
Since when does something like flycutting stop you…

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/90 "2012-01-20T19:00:13Z")

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Haha, it did, for now. It’s still going to make some jam. Slightly milled heads, G6X3, tune, long tubes, 4 speed with a 7.25 button clutch. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/91 "2012-01-20T21:20:41Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> Haha, it did, for now. It’s still going to make some jam. Slightly milled heads, G6X3, tune, long tubes, 4 speed with a 7.25 button clutch. 🙂

I love jam. Mid 400?

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2012, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/92 "2012-01-20T21:44:20Z")

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![http://www.lgmotorsports.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/G6X3%20SS.jpg](http://www.lgmotorsports.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/G6X3%20SS.jpg)  
Identical long block/cam/head combo (same milling). Everything else is different though.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/93 "2012-01-21T16:59:47Z")

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where did you get a threaded balljoing yo?!

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/94 "2012-01-21T17:11:04Z")

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Pm’d ya.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/95 "2012-01-26T15:51:50Z")

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I’m kind of stuck right now, I need some engine related stuff before I can hang the motor and trans and build mounts, and suspension wise I’m waiting on some hardware and camber plates before I can mount stuff up and make sure the control arms are done before getting them made out of 7075. So I worked on the only other bit I can work on, gutting the interior and the roll cage. I’m going to try and be more proactive about taking photos as I work on stuff, so here’s some photos from today:  
 ![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/425361_3088921752712_1554023596_32885157_103583746_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/425361_3088921752712_1554023596_32885157_103583746_n.jpg)  
 ![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397173_3089148038369_1554023596_32885196_1787552551_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397173_3089148038369_1554023596_32885196_1787552551_n.jpg)  
Trunk full of parts. I thought I was going to have to buy sway bars… they were in the trunk, along with a driveshaft, hahahaha.

![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405683_3089155798563_1554023596_32885197_1120690458_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405683_3089155798563_1554023596_32885197_1120690458_n.jpg)  
Mint no sunroof ///M headliner.

![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428336_3089362523731_1554023596_32885223_601444681_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428336_3089362523731_1554023596_32885223_601444681_n.jpg)  
 ![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/400488_3089386484330_1554023596_32885231_1785968776_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/400488_3089386484330_1554023596_32885231_1785968776_n.jpg)  
Headliner out, then padding. Next up, heat gun!

![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/394133_3089354683535_1554023596_32885220_1426175694_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/394133_3089354683535_1554023596_32885220_1426175694_n.jpg)  
Seats out, misc trim parts piling up.

![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/431531_3089445365802_1554023596_32885257_619134005_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/431531_3089445365802_1554023596_32885257_619134005_n.jpg)  
Rear seat, rear cards removed.

![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/425107_3089699732161_1554023596_32885332_1081826030_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/425107_3089699732161_1554023596_32885332_1081826030_n.jpg)  
Starting to gut trim and sound deadening.

![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428977_3089717812613_1060160102_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428977_3089717812613_1060160102_n.jpg)  
Trunk gutted, though admittedly since this car was options with the Harmon Kardon sound system there is still about 40lbs of modules and speakers in the rear deck and trunk. I’ll get to those tomorrow.

![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/409316_3089724612783_1554023596_32885338_1431158490_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/409316_3089724612783_1554023596_32885338_1431158490_n.jpg)  
Tomorrow, door panels, dash, center console, airbags, carpet, hvac ducting to the rear seats and stereo stuff.

Also, it’s not 100% done, but have most of the cage modeled out in solidworks.

 ![http://mturck.com/e46m3/e46m3cager2.jpg](http://mturck.com/e46m3/e46m3cager2.jpg)

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**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/96 "2012-01-26T16:27:44Z")

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Non-sport wheel? Is it just because it’s a rolling chassis?

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/97 "2012-01-26T16:46:43Z")

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I have a 3 spoke, recovered in alcantara that I’m fitting a quick release into, that’s just there so I have steering in the meantime.

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**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/98 "2012-01-26T18:19:01Z")

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Nice, dude!

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**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/99 "2012-01-27T06:11:56Z")

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Cage looks good, I like the “kissing x” doorbars and the a-pillar bracing. I want to do the same thing with my car, and probably get the door bars to protrude into the doors for the pyramid effect. Im sure you will add some gussets where the bars intersect. The only thing I would change is there is no load path for the upper door bar after it intersects with the main hoop. I attached a pic with some ideas, might not be possible with your car though.

You probably already read this thread on corner carvers which has a great deal of info. Just thought I would post for anyone else. The guy who actually started the thread has a sn99 mustang who rolled it on the track. Not sure if anyone even realizes that now. I have pics of his cage design, at least I know it was tested for roll over.  
[http://www.corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27556I](http://www.corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27556I)  
Also some good info on bimmerforums studying design and strength through a modeling program [http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=925995](http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=925995)

Some info I took away from the threads -  
The rear x does not provide much more strength overall to the cage, maybe its not worth the extra weight?

A-pilliar bracing, FIA bar, whatever you want to call it adds a great deal of strength.

Gussets add a great deal of strength to the cage for minimal added weight

The dash bar sees much more load that I imagined, and would be ideal to include upper and lower gussets

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**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/german-pushrods/215606/100 "2012-01-27T06:15:26Z")

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> [@POOPRA](#):
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> You probably already read this thread on corner carvers which has a great deal of info - [Cage Design](http://www.corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27556I)  
> Also some good info on bimmerforums studying design and strength through a modeling program [Cage Study](http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=925995)

Oh, I’ve just found something to read on lunch today. :tup:

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