# Getting Tuned During Winter Months

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [December 8, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924 "2009-12-08T20:19:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/1 "2009-12-08T20:19:29Z")

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Let’s say I got my car my car tuned in the cold weather. Would I need to get retuned when it gets warmer out or could I keep the same map. How would the difference in air temperature effect the fueling? Given the fact that I drive a fragile turbo Subaru and a change in the a/f ratio could easily spell disater, I would like to take as many precautions as I can.

Thanks in advance.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/2 "2009-12-08T20:26:08Z")

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chuck, i had my STi tuned in 10\* weather in january. as long as your tuner doesnt tune on the ragged edge you should be ok with a single map for year round driving. a comprehensive, conservative tune will get you by because of the adaptive learning feature in the subaru ecu’s… also assuming you are using the stock boost control system… solenoid or something or the sort… a manual or electronic boost controller can throw a monkey wrench into things as they may require adjustment… scratch that… will DEFINITELY require adjustment with temperature change.

there are SEVERAL people around here who are very proficient with ecutune/enginuity/ecuflash/etc… and a tactrix cable that can provide adjustments as needed. if you happen to purchase the parts i would be glad to assist you as well. free of charge.

EDIT:!!! the thing that affects subaru ecu tunes the most is elevation change… it can and will affect the afr by up to 1 full point just driving from albany to lake placid. barometric pressure and altitude adjustment is a bitch.

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/3 "2009-12-08T20:29:16Z")

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> [@Strongest Straps Ever or Really Lucky?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/strongest-straps-ever-or-really-lucky/27014/13):
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> chuck, i had my STi tuned in 10\* weather in january. as long as your tuner doesnt tune on the ragged edge you should be ok with a single map for year round driving. a comprehensive, conservative tune will get you by because of the adaptive learning feature in the subaru ecu’s… also assuming you are using the stock boost control system… solenoid or something or the sort… a manual or electronic boost controller can throw a monkey wrench into things as they may require adjustment… scratch that… will DEFINITELY require adjustment with temperature change.
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> there are SEVERAL people around here who are very proficient with ecutune/enginuity/ecuflash/etc… and a tactrix cable that can provide adjustments as needed. if you happen to purchase the parts i would be glad to assist you as well. free of charge.

Well if what your saying is true then it should go either way then, meaning if I was tuned in 90’ weather I should be fine in lower temperatures.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/4 "2009-12-08T20:32:28Z")

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> [@Credit Repair 101](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/credit-repair-101/26976/7):
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> Well if what your saying is true then it should go either way then, meaning if I was tuned in 90’ weather I should be fine in lower temperatures.

assuming the tune isnt hyper aggressive and its on the stock BCS or someone who knows to prevent an overboost condition by regulating the manual or electronic boost controller. the base map in the tune shouldnt need to be changed. the realtime maps are what you need to make sure the tuner is careful with.

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/5 "2009-12-08T20:33:25Z")

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> [@Strongest Straps Ever or Really Lucky?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/strongest-straps-ever-or-really-lucky/27014/13):
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> chuck, i had my STi tuned in 10\* weather in january. as long as your tuner doesnt tune on the ragged edge you should be ok with a single map for year round driving. a comprehensive, conservative tune will get you by because of the adaptive learning feature in the subaru ecu’s… also assuming you are using the stock boost control system… solenoid or something or the sort… a manual or electronic boost controller can throw a monkey wrench into things as they may require adjustment… scratch that… will DEFINITELY require adjustment with temperature change.
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> there are SEVERAL people around here who are very proficient with ecutune/enginuity/ecuflash/etc… and a tactrix cable that can provide adjustments as needed. if you happen to purchase the parts i would be glad to assist you as well. free of charge.

Thanks for the info man. I’m still collecting parts and preparing the car but I think it’ll be ready in like 2 months. I’m still trying to figure out if I want to ditch the factory ebcs for a Hallman. Nothing that big, but it will definitely be fun and an easy mid to low 12 second car. :ninja

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/6 "2009-12-08T20:34:13Z")

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> [@Credit Repair 101](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/credit-repair-101/26976/10):
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> Thanks for the info man. I’m still collecting parts and preparing the car but I think it’ll be ready in like 2 months. Nothing that big, but it will definitely be fun and an easy mid to low 12 second car. :ninja

still have that freshly rebuilt fp green here… if ur feelin froggy…

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/7 "2009-12-08T20:34:26Z")

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better get a clutch partner

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/8 "2009-12-08T20:34:49Z")

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> [@Frozen iPod?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/frozen-ipod/27021/3):
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> assuming the tune isnt hyper aggressive and its on the stock BCS or someone who knows to prevent an overboost condition by regulating the manual or electronic boost controller. the base map in the tune shouldnt need to be changed. the realtime maps are what you need to make sure the tuner is careful with.

word… I dunno, I think the safest thing for him to do would be to get tuned and then retuned in the spring

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/9 "2009-12-08T20:36:10Z")

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> [@Strongest Straps Ever or Really Lucky?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/strongest-straps-ever-or-really-lucky/27014/15):
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> still have that freshly rebuilt fp green here… if ur feelin froggy…

maybe next year when I build the block sitting in my basement :rofl

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/10 "2009-12-08T20:39:02Z")

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> [@command & Conquer 3](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/command-conquer-3/26820/39):
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> maybe next year when I build the block sitting in my basement :rofl

buy it and put it on now.

buttt the new 68HTA looks guud too:excited

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/11 "2009-12-08T20:41:10Z")

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> [@CAR INSURANCE???](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-insurance/27017/17):
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> buttt the new 68HTA looks guud too:excited

I know, and it’s cheap :shifty

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/12 "2009-12-08T20:42:47Z")

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> [@Murrdog9000"](#):
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> word… I dunno, I think the safest thing for him to do would be to get tuned and then retuned in the spring

the basemap on ANY tune should NOT need to be changed for seasonal driving. the subaru ecus run realtime advance timing multiplier maps… they have a,b,c,d options… if the tuner takes his time with the realtime maps and is **careful** , then no tuning adjustments should need to be made. the car will automatically default to the proper realtime map for barometric pressure changes and what the MAF/ IAT is seeing. unless of course the boost control system is bypassed by a MBC/EBC. in which case, its at the owners discretion to set it properly… the ecu has a overboost protection in it but thats sort of an “oops i fucked up i need to fix this” feature and by that time the damage may already be done.

for example… my car was tuned INSIDE at moon performance… inside the shop was about 65-70\*… the car was tuned to ~22psi… with a 24psi overboost protection.

i left the shop and the boost controller had not been adjusted for outside temps. the first time i laid into it leaving lake placid i pegged the boost guage at 30 psi before the overboost protection kicked in threw on the check engine light and limited boost to \>14psi for the rest of the ride home.  
i had to clear the code and adjust the MBC by trial and error to see where i was on the boost but after that original “oopsie” i didnt have another issue.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/13 "2009-12-08T20:46:55Z")

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> [@command & Conquer 3](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/command-conquer-3/26820/39):
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> maybe next year when I build the block sitting in my basement :rofl

boxersix already rebuilt it and gave it a good bill of health… run it at 18psi on the stock block… with proper supporting mods and ull be over 300whp on 93 octane… with a safer power curve than the peaky output a vf-39/43 would produce.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/14 "2009-12-08T21:04:21Z")

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> [@2007 S600 Oil dipstick? uh, or not?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2007-s600-oil-dipstick-uh-or-not/27006/9):
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> boxersix already rebuilt it and gave it a good bill of health… run it at 18psi on the stock block… with proper supporting mods and ull be over 300whp on 93 octane… with a safer power curve than the peaky output a vf-39/43 would produce.

full boost at what rpm  
im looking for response, not power

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/15 "2009-12-08T21:09:57Z")

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> [@Running 8 ohm speakers on a 4 ohm amp?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/running-8-ohm-speakers-on-a-4-ohm-amp/27010/7):
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> full boost at what rpm

18psi by 34-3600 maybe earlier. peak tq 750-1000 rpms after that.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/16 "2009-12-09T06:57:07Z")

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Weather doesn’t matter as long as the tuner is competant and take into consideration air density and amount of fuel being used.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/17 "2009-12-09T07:37:59Z")

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This thread has raised more questions than reliable answers for me… Where’s adam or morgan?

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/18 "2009-12-09T09:23:30Z")

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Umm just wait to mod ur daily and tune it til spring time?

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/19 "2009-12-09T09:27:57Z")

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if u tune it in the winter, when the summer comes its going to run rich as shit

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/getting-tuned-during-winter-months/248924/20 "2009-12-09T09:32:54Z")

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i are so confused by dis thread

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