# Giambra's New Plan

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [September 14, 2005, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344 "2005-09-14T05:39:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/1 "2005-09-14T05:39:14Z")

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I don’t know how many of you are home owners but I imagine that many are considering buying one in the near future.

This morning on the news they mentioned Giambra’s new plan for dealing with the financial woes of Erie County…raise property taxes.

Next year the property taxes are to go up by 25%. A pretty significant increase. But then we have 2007, an increase of 24%!! So we are looking at a 49% increase in Erie county property taxes in the next 2 years.:crap:

Sounds like a fine way to keep people from leaving this area right?

I really need to get out of this place.

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**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/2 "2005-09-14T05:40:54Z")

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are you fucking joking ?

god i would LOOOOVE to see someone shoot him … seriously … im realy not joking at all

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**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/3 "2005-09-14T05:44:21Z")

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[http://wgrz.com/news/news\_article.aspx?storyid=31542](http://wgrz.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=31542)

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**Author:** ![Deuce](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deuce/32/7614_2.png) [@Deuce](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Deuce)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/4 "2005-09-14T06:08:51Z")

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when is the next election for county exec. 2006?

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**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/5 "2005-09-14T06:12:12Z")

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well i do like his idea of cutting “benefits” to county officials (they abuse that stuff) but the property tax is a lil outta hand, 50% in 2 yrs?!?

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**Author:** ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/6 "2005-09-14T06:14:39Z")

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I know where to fix the problem:

STOP MAKING THIS CITY A HAVEN FOR UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE TO LIVE ! :mad:

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**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/7 "2005-09-14T06:21:43Z")

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> [@Jeller](#):
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> I know where to fix the problem:
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> STOP MAKING THIS CITY A HAVEN FOR UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE TO LIVE ! :mad:

Hey pipe down and work harder. Millions on welfare are depending on you!🙂

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**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/8 "2005-09-14T06:25:31Z")

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what the fuuuuuccckkkk

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/9 "2005-09-14T06:28:12Z")

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**ATTENTION**

IT IS ACTUALLY A 55% INCREASE!!!

ARE THESE PEOPLE ON CRACK!!!

IF ANY AND I MEAN ANY OF THESE RETARDS GET RE-ELECTED WE DESERVE WHAT WE GET!!!

THESE GREEDY FINANCIAL RETARDS MUST GO!!!

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/10 "2005-09-14T06:29:29Z")

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Great. And I’m closing on a house in Tonawanda in 2 weeks… We already have retardedly high property taxes! [Check this shit out.](http://houseandhome.msn.com/pickaplace/comparecities.aspx?FromState=NC&FromCity=Charlotte&ToState=NY&ToCity=Buffalo&btnCompare=Compare&EarningFromCity=%2450%2C000&EarnToCity=%2487%2C304&Changed=1&prevFromCity=0&prevToCity=8&prevFromState=NC&prevToState=NY&EarningToCity=87303.7857802401&Ratio=1.7460757156048) Buffalo’s property taxes are 3.5%, versus the national average of 1.64%??? And now he wants us to pay for Sherrif patrols? WTF?! Giambra needs to be removed from office before he does more damage.

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**Author:** ![RobHimself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RobHimself](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RobHimself)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/11 "2005-09-14T06:29:48Z")

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Homeowner or not this is gonna end up fucking everyone in the ass. Do you think my landlord is going to say oh my property taxes went up guess ill just have to eat those costs? fuck no! rent is going up as much as his taxes. Thanks giambra and every other county exec that got us in this freakin mess.

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**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/12 "2005-09-14T06:32:15Z")

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> [@BikerFry](#):
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> Great. And I’m closing on a house in Tonawanda in 2 weeks… We already have retardedly high property taxes! [Check this shit out.](http://houseandhome.msn.com/pickaplace/comparecities.aspx?FromState=NC&FromCity=Charlotte&ToState=NY&ToCity=Buffalo&btnCompare=Compare&EarningFromCity=%2450%2C000&EarnToCity=%2487%2C304&Changed=1&prevFromCity=0&prevToCity=8&prevFromState=NC&prevToState=NY&EarningToCity=87303.7857802401&Ratio=1.7460757156048) Buffalo’s property taxes are 3.5%, versus the national average of 1.64%??? And now he wants us to pay for Sherrif patrols? WTF?! Giambra needs to be removed from office before he does more damage.

Hey neighbor, where in Tonawanda are you moving?

3.5% to 1.64% ?? WTF??!!

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**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/13 "2005-09-14T06:32:59Z")

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> [@RobHimself](#):
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> Homeowner or not this is gonna end up fucking everyone in the ass. Do you think my landlord is going to say oh my property taxes went up guess ill just have to eat those costs? fuck no! rent is going up as much as his taxes. Thanks giambra and every other county exec that got us in this freakin mess.

Very good point.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/14 "2005-09-14T06:36:18Z")

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It is time to join the real world…

“People need good jobs”  
“Hey I know lets just keep hiring people to keep unemployment low”

NEWS FLASH… IF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS HUGE AMOUNTS OF PEOPLE MAKING BIG SALARIES THEY NEED A HUGE AMOUNT OF TAX REVENUE.  
THIS FORCES BIG TAX PAYERS TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF TOWN.  
IS GIAMBRA RETARDED OR DOES HE KNOW THE TAX PAYERS ARE TOTAL PUSHOVERS AND HE CAN ASS RAPE THEM AS LONG AS HE WANTS?

INCASE YOU CAN’T TELL, I AM FUCKING FURIOUS!!!

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**Author:** ![98SS10](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/98ss10/32/7288_2.png) [@98SS10](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/98SS10)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/15 "2005-09-14T06:36:23Z")

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Ugh cant wait to get the fuck out. that really sucks this area is a really nice place to live cept for the fuckin politicians ruining it all by making it so goddamn expensive!

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/16 "2005-09-14T06:37:05Z")

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> [@JaysGreenLX](#):
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> Hey neighbor, where in Tonawanda are you moving?
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> 3.5% to 1.64% ?? WTF??!!

On that roundabout on Parkhurst btw Sheridan and Brighton/Maple. I’ll keep my eyes open for a Green LX. :tup:

Speaking of watching for local cars, I wonder who had the Silver MR2 on Crestwood in Hamburg last night? It drove by a couple times while I was working on my brakes. Sounded real nice…

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/17 "2005-09-14T07:10:34Z")

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this is what i woke up to on news radio this morning.

this makes zer0daze even more angry this week.

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**Author:** ![d3x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@d3x](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d3x)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/18 "2005-09-14T07:11:46Z")

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man you guys get really heated over pennies. an increase of about $250/year on a $100k home is squat. most you home owners take home atleast twice that in a week.

now im not sticking up for giambra or the disfunctional county govt we have here but you have to remember the big reason the cost to run the county govt has increased so dramatically is because of albany. programs the state has complete control over like medicaid/medicare and pensions are being funded by the counties of NY. with the cost of medical care skyrocketing and the increasing number of retirees collecting on their pensions, the bill from NYS has increased by hundreds of percent over the last few years. and erie county hasnt raised its taxes to keep up with this increase…rather that fucktard giambra cut the taxes. so if you guys didnt see it coming you should pay more attention to the antics of your local govts.

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/19 "2005-09-14T07:16:03Z")

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^  
so you are saying its ok for more than 1/3 of a mortgage payment to be taxes?

good thing we are 86’ing one of the farms, or we would be paying close to 1k a month in taxes on it.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giambras-new-plan/2344/20 "2005-09-14T07:24:33Z")

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> [@d3x](#):
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> man you guys get really heated over pennies. an increase of about $250/year on a $100k home is squat. most you home owners take home atleast twice that in a week.
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> now im not sticking up for giambra or the disfunctional county govt we have here but you have to remember the big reason the cost to run the county govt has increased so dramatically is because of albany. programs the state has complete control over like medicaid/medicare and pensions are being funded by the counties of NY. with the cost of medical care skyrocketing and the increasing number of retirees collecting on their pensions, the bill from NYS has increased by hundreds of percent over the last few years. and erie county hasnt raised its taxes to keep up with this increase…rather that fucktard giambra cut the taxes. so if you guys didnt see it coming you should pay more attention to the antics of your local govts.

THEY COULD CUT MLLIONS BY NOT HIRING ALL OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS AND PAYING THEM MORE THAN TWICE THE NATIONAL AVERAGE AND GIVING THEM RETARDED PENTIONS.  
IT IS EASY TO BLAME ALBANY BUT, THE HEART OF THE PROBLEM IS RIGHT HERE.

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