# Giant iPod Touch...iPad

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**Created:** [January 27, 2010, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667 "2010-01-27T10:17:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/61 "2010-01-28T08:50:39Z")

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Science & TechnologyFrantic Steve Jobs Stays Up All Night Designing Apple Tablet  
January 27, 2010 | Issue 46•04

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CUPERTINO, CA—Claiming that he completely forgot about the much-hyped electronic device until the last minute, a frantic Steve Jobs reportedly stayed up all night Tuesday in a desperate effort to design Apple’s new tablet computer. “Come on, Steve, just think—think, dammit—you’re running out of time,” the exhausted CEO said as he glued nine separate iPhones to the back of a plastic cafeteria tray. “Okay, yeah, this will work. This will definitely work. Just need to write ‘tablet’ on this little strip of masking tape here and I’m golden. Oh, come on, you piece of shit! Just stick already!” Middle-of-the-night sources reported that Jobs then began work on double-spacing his Keynote presentation and increasing the font size to make it appear longer.

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**Author:** ![Clean\_Baldy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clean_baldy/32/7308_2.png) [@Clean\_Baldy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clean_Baldy)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/62 "2010-01-28T09:41:36Z")

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How useless. It’s like an oversided iPhone without any extra “wow” factor.

No camera, no flash support, single-tasking?

How the hell am I supposed to play FarmTown on Facebook without Flash all while listening to Pandora in the background?!

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/63 "2010-01-28T09:51:37Z")

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Some of us have the wrong idea. This isn’t going to replace anything. This thing’s not a substitute for a laptop or a kindle. There’s no keyboard so it’s not really built for a lot of input like note taking in class or something. It’s backlit so it’s not good for reading long books because it hurts to stare directly into a light. (Kindles use e-ink which is not backlit.)

It’s a new kind of product. Handy little thing good for reading the news and other shorter readings, surfing the web, etc. You could take some notes on it. Run your allrecipes app and have it propped up on the counter with no keyboard to spill shit into. It’ll find its nieche and it will sell well and all the other companies who have already or will introduce the same thing will come along for the ride that Apple’s marketing has/will create.

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/64 "2010-01-28T09:54:10Z")

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Jobs made it a point to say that he thinks this is basically a netbook alternative.

Honestly, I don’t think his will sell. Internet tablets have been attempted SOOOO many times. Nokia tried it, Archos has (and still is). Aside from that other tablet PCs that have existed and never grew well. This is much better than the tablet PCs of a few years ago, but it still is just not good enough to replace a PC.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/65 "2010-01-28T10:14:46Z")

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Fry, that picture of Koolaid is making me thirsty.

OT, this thing is crap. I was hoping for a full featured tablet with OSX, not an oversized ipod touch. This had the potential to murder the competition, instead Apple unveils a crappy device that doesn’t seem do anything really well.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/66 "2010-01-28T10:58:36Z")

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> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> Jobs made it a point to say that he thinks this is basically a netbook alternative.
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> Honestly, I don’t think his will sell. Internet tablets have been attempted SOOOO many times. Nokia tried it, Archos has (and still is). Aside from that other tablet PCs that have existed and never grew well. This is much better than the tablet PCs of a few years ago, but it still is just not good enough to replace a PC.

In the presentation Jobs played down netbooks. The whole idea behind this conference was that this device was a revolution and they saw people have one of these to bring on the go and have at home which it just isnt. Tablet/Notebook combo PCs have this thing surpassed already other than the nifty touch interface.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/67 "2010-01-28T11:17:28Z")

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I was just talking about how useful this device would be in the real world.

For my needs I would get rid of my macbook and replace it with an ipad and a mac mini.

The mac mini gets plugged into my home theater as a media server and server in general.  
The ipad is my email / msg / surf tool and then I remote into my mac mini for all else.

I don’t need the ipad to multitask if I can remote into my mac mini and have a full OS at my fingertips.

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/68 "2010-01-28T11:19:53Z")

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full OS will be useless without a mouse

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/69 "2010-01-28T11:22:47Z")

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What’s the advantage to this over a full-featured laptop for $500 again? Looks like more overpriced iShit to me.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/70 "2010-01-28T11:29:33Z")

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> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> full OS will be useless without a mouse

I remote into systems from my iphone and don’t have much trouble controlling full os (windows and mac). It would be much better on a 10" screen.

> [@Joe](#):
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> What’s the advantage to this over a full-featured laptop for $500 again? Looks like more overpriced iShit to me.

a seamless user interface that is designed for the specific hardware, a full touchscreen, a better form factor, 1 month standby time, 10 hours of use time… and so on.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/71 "2010-01-28T11:30:54Z")

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> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> full OS will be useless without a mouse

And keyboard. Am I missing something or is this too big to thumb-type? Can you actually 10-finger type on a touch pad? Or are people going to regress to hunt-and-peck typing?

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/72 "2010-01-28T11:33:45Z")

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when I got my iphone I was worried about typing… after about 3 days I was pretty quick. I’m not going to write a book, but for up to a paragraph it’s good enough. And this is on a 3.5" screen, not the ipad’s 10" screen.

also, a full keyboard is an optional plugin for if you want to get serious.

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/73 "2010-01-28T11:36:46Z")

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> [@Fry](#):
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> And keyboard. Am I missing something or is this too big to thumb-type? Can you actually 10-finger type on a touch pad? Or are people going to regress to hunt-and-peck typing?

in the demo video on the website, it looked more like hunt and peck than full out typing. Not really a full on hunt a peck, but really only using 2-4 fingers

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/74 "2010-01-28T11:44:28Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> also, a full keyboard is an optional plugin for if you want to get serious.

:lol: Anyone with an ipad and a plug in keyboard should be punched in the dick. They package those things together in a nice little unit called a laptop. :picard:

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**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/75 "2010-01-28T11:46:41Z")

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but bro, its made by apple!!! i have to have one!!!

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/76 "2010-01-28T11:47:42Z")

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but seriously… If I didn’t have a laptop in my proposed setup, it would be nice to have a keyboard for that one time a month I have to write a lot of stuff from home. I wouldn’t use it 90% of the time.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/77 "2010-01-28T11:50:51Z")

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![http://davidtheiss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/iphone-sucks.jpg](http://davidtheiss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/iphone-sucks.jpg)

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**Author:** ![dozr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dozr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dozr)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/78 "2010-01-28T11:53:02Z")

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> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> Old technology takes a long time to go away. Ask the web developers who struggle to make their pages compatible with IE5 because they still get hits on their site from legacy browsers.
> 
> They are not doing you ANY favors

Meh, Flash will be gone before you know it. There is still a lot of the web using flash video, which is why most people will be upset, but it’s only a matter of time before those make the switch (video is fully supported in HTML5, simply by using a video tag, just like images are supported by using the img tag).

IE5 is rarely supported by anyone these days nor should it be. Good front-end developers/designer plan for graceful degradation which allows a website to “degrade gracefully” in older browsers. You might lose some bells and whistles visually and functionally, but the content is still accessible.

And Fry, that post had nothing to do with apple.

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/79 "2010-01-28T11:53:20Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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srsly

man, I hate apple…I think I’ll go build another hackintosh and steal more of their software from the internet now

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/giant-ipod-touch-ipad/78667/80 "2010-01-28T11:54:47Z")

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> [@dozr](#):
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> Meh, Flash will be gone before you know it. There is still a lot of the web using flash video, which is why most people will be upset, but it’s only a matter of time before those make the switch (video is fully supported in HTML5, simply by using a video tag, just like images are supported by using the img tag).
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> IE5 is rarely supported by anyone these days nor should it be. Good front-end developers/designer plan for graceful degradation which allows a website to “degrade gracefully” in older browsers. You might lose some bells and whistles visually and functionally, but the content is still accessible.
> 
> And Fry, that post had nothing to do with apple.

Sooooo “before you know it” ~= 2020 ?

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