# GM bankrupt!!???

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [October 8, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161 "2008-10-08T21:51:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![PureXTC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/purextc/32/5223_2.png) [@PureXTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureXTC)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/181 "2008-10-11T15:20:58Z")

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Heard on the news last night that GM and chrysler are talking about merging…

Merge = rising stock prices

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**Author:** ![misteroman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/misteroman/32/7423_2.png) [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/182 "2008-10-11T15:29:46Z")

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Everytime i shop for something I first try to find one that is made in USA.i.e. bought a paint scrapper/putty knife.Red devil 3.99 made in china.Some other brand(4 or 5 letters) Made in USA 5.79.Bought the USA ona and needed one again a wek later as I left the other on at another job,bought the USA one again.  
I too have thought about opening a USA only store in Amherst.I think it could be profitable.

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/183 "2008-10-11T15:51:31Z")

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> [@misteroman$$$](#):
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> Everytime i shop for something I first try to find one that is made in USA.i.e. bought a paint scrapper/putty knife.Red devil 3.99 made in china.Some other brand(4 or 5 letters) Made in USA 5.79.Bought the USA ona and needed one again a wek later as I left the other on at another job,bought the USA one again.  
> **I too have thought about opening a USA only store in Amherst.I think it could be profitable.**

I would shop there. Just sayin.

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/184 "2008-10-11T16:06:40Z")

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40 non-relevant posts removed from this thread

Keep your egos and your offtopic bullshit in your pants or take a 3 day vacation.

Only warning.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/185 "2008-10-11T16:14:50Z")

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> [@misteroman$$$](#):
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> Everytime i shop for something I first try to find one that is made in USA.i.e. bought a paint scrapper/putty knife.Red devil 3.99 made in china.Some other brand(4 or 5 letters) Made in USA 5.79.Bought the USA ona and needed one again a wek later as I left the other on at another job,bought the USA one again.  
> I too have thought about opening a USA only store in Amherst.I think it could be profitable.

pm, me i have been working on the same theme. and a military vet owner.

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**Author:** ![TORQDSS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torqdss/32/5125_2.png) [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/186 "2008-10-11T18:07:29Z")

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> [@camarojoe](#):
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> That’s not suprising. You don’t see a ton of Buick’s on the road.  
> Merge Chevy, Pontiac, and Buick. Buying out the dealerships would probably hurt them initially, but the market doesn’t seem condusive to multi platform lines anymore.
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> It’s not like the 50’s and 60’s where you could tell the difference between the models

GM has already started getting all the Buick Pontiac and GMC franchises under one roof… i think that might be foreshadowing

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**Author:** ![misteroman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/misteroman/32/7423_2.png) [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/187 "2008-10-11T18:15:07Z")

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Dave,  
How long until there are only a few dealers per 100 mile radius?You guys,west herr and paddock if he decided to branch off could run the whole area

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/188 "2008-10-11T18:22:28Z")

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D,  
I think the NADA is predicting 800 dealers closing by the end of the year. Analyst are predicting 2,000 - 3,000.  
My guess is wholesale/floor plan rates will continue to rise and lending will become even harder to come by at a higher rate.  
Or if dealers lose their floor plan, I highly doubt anyone would pick them up at a reasonable rate.

My comments are based on my own personal opinion and not based on any knowledge from the company I work for.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/189 "2008-10-11T18:53:52Z")

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> [@misteroman$$$](#):
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> Dave,  
> How long until there are only a few dealers per 100 mile radius?You guys,west herr and paddock if he decided to branch off could run the whole area

well I think that’s the direction we are going in but that’s good for us!! Shit we are already in the top 10 in the nation so why slow down now?

> [@BigRon](#):
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> D,  
> I think the NADA is predicting 800 dealers closing by the end of the year. Analyst are predicting 2,000 - 3,000.  
> My guess is wholesale/floor plan rates will continue to rise and lending will become even harder to come by at a higher rate.  
> Or if dealers lose their floor plan, I highly doubt anyone would pick them up at a reasonable rate.
> 
> My comments are based on my own personal opinion and not based on any knowledge from the company I work for.

I agree 100%. the guys with the cash to weather this will come out of it like bulldogs and own the market around them. Get ready for the future of Mega-dealers who are 50 miles or more away from each other. Hell Tampa FL only has 4 Chevy dealers for the whole city! (friend of my dad’s owns the Furhman Autogroup there)

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/190 "2008-10-11T19:00:50Z")

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**Author:** ![misteroman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/misteroman/32/7423_2.png) [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/191 "2008-10-11T20:35:48Z")

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Agreed just like the banks.only will be 10 or so probably in 10 yrs if taht long.  
Did you get my PM Dave?

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/192 "2008-10-11T20:52:53Z")

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GM is Looking to aquire Chrysler now thats messed up. Welcome back AMC

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/193 "2008-10-11T20:59:23Z")

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Automotive news is saying a trade: Chrysler for the remaining 49% of GMAC

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/194 "2008-10-12T17:37:22Z")

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> [@BigRon](#):
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> Automotive news is saying a trade: Chrysler for the remaining 49% of GMAC

That’s pretty much what I thought - except Cerberus would be getting the better part of the deal: GMAC + Chrysler Financial =\> Cerberus Financial vs. GM-Chrysler Automotive. And if I were GM, I’d be hesitant to give up all of my captive finance arm, even though it lost $1.5 Billion last year.

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**Author:** ![nelstoys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/48db29/32.png) [@nelstoys](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nelstoys)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/195 "2008-10-12T21:07:39Z")

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All i know is my stocks are down big, my 401k’s lost a shit load and i still can care less! Im just happy gas only cost me 3.57 today! Sux for Gm, but it sux more for the middle class americans feeling more then this.

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**Author:** ![nelstoys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/48db29/32.png) [@nelstoys](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nelstoys)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/196 "2008-10-12T21:09:40Z")

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Hey Joe, bet you can get a new camaro next year really cheap now.

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/197 "2008-10-13T14:02:50Z")

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GMAC adopts more conservative lending policies for consumer auto loans amid credit crunch

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/198 "2008-10-13T15:19:51Z")

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> [@nelstoys](#):
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> Hey Joe, bet you can get a new camaro next year really cheap now.

Already have paperwork for it but am playing a little waiting game for some other details.

And I bought some GM stock today too.

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/199 "2008-11-10T07:44:15Z")

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[http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aXdq61f3HmOw&refer=home](http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aXdq61f3HmOw&refer=home)

> General Motors Plummets After Analyst Cuts Price Target to **_Zero_**

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-bankrupt/56161/200 "2008-11-10T07:45:12Z")

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They also ducked out of the race to buy Chrysler. Now it looks like Hyundai and Nissan are sniffing around.

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