# GM cancels new DOHC V8 plans

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [January 3, 2008, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171 "2008-01-03T14:28:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mike93](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike93/32/7325_2.png) [@Mike93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike93)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/21 "2008-01-04T06:30:20Z")

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> [@Coveted Hilton](#):
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> i think theyre headed for bankrupt like chrysler did.
> 
> to be honest… gm’s have all sucked sense pretty much 89.
> 
> I’d never buy an american car if i was buying a New car.

Ummm…okay. I’ll be sure to trust your opinion on their future. Guess you haven’t payed any attention to them over the past few years, have you?

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/22 "2008-01-04T07:01:34Z")

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PUSHRODS:headbang:

UAW:bloated:

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**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/23 "2008-01-04T07:04:56Z")

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> [@Coveted Hilton](#):
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> i think theyre headed for bankrupt like chrysler did.
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> to be honest… gm’s have all sucked sense pretty much 89.
> 
> I’d never buy an american car if i was buying a New car.

buhahahaha :lolham:

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**Author:** ![SVT3945](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/svt3945/32/7409_2.png) [@SVT3945](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SVT3945)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/24 "2008-01-04T07:15:41Z")

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> [@Coveted Hilton](#):
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> i think theyre headed for bankrupt like chrysler did.
> 
> to be honest… gm’s have all sucked sense pretty much 89.
> 
> I’d never buy an american car if i was buying a New car.

to be honest… all cars sucked until 89.except for pre 72 of coarse.

Why do I get the funny feeling that you will never be in a position to walk into a car dealer and say Ill take the red one !!!

WTF is a coveted hilton anyway?

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**Author:** ![TORQDSS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torqdss/32/5125_2.png) [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/25 "2008-01-04T08:34:17Z")

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1. who was the number ONE manufacturer in the world for 2007?
2. I’m pretty sure Rick Waggoner even kick Chuck Norris’ ass.
3. Pushrods will always win over DOHC. Period.

GM + PUSHROD V8’S = :headbang:

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**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/26 "2008-01-04T08:34:23Z")

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Hmmm… lot of money to toss away there, granted the new restrictions combined with what they have the works pretty darn well make it seem out of place from what they need to focus on, flagship cars can only go so far.

> [@SVT3945](#):
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> WTF is a coveted hilton anyway?

SICK BURN DUDEBRO!

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**Author:** ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/27 "2008-01-04T23:23:43Z")

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> [@TORQDSS](#):
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> Pushrods will always win over DOHC. Period.

not really. they both have their place.

headflow is far more important that valvetrain configuration. its more important for the valvetrain to stay stable at the intended rpm rather than to involve pushrods.

Brian

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**Author:** ![MazerMadness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90db22/32.png) [@MazerMadness](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MazerMadness)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/28 "2008-01-04T23:40:03Z")

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> [@DrImodium"](#):
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> I remember back when in the 90’s, it seemed like every GM interior was ass ugly but they all kinda resembled each other.

Yea, GM interiors are terrible. They use the exact same radio and hvac controls in every vehicle.

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**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/29 "2008-01-05T05:56:40Z")

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> [@MazerMadness](#):
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> Yea, GM interiors are terrible. They use the exact same radio and hvac controls in every vehicle.

Check out the new 08 trucks. Seriously on par with the E46 BMW/IS300 etc. Not world class, but MORE THAN good enough for a truck.

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**Author:** ![TORQDSS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torqdss/32/5125_2.png) [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/30 "2008-01-05T06:11:28Z")

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> [@reliant\_turbo](#):
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> not really. they both have their place.
> 
> headflow is far more important that valvetrain configuration. its more important for the valvetrain to stay stable at the intended rpm rather than to involve pushrods.
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> Brian

I know, I’m just being a stubborn/tunnel visioned GM guy… I can’t help myself sometimes

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**Author:** ![ugo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ugo/32/7430_2.png) [@ugo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ugo)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/31 "2008-01-05T08:03:55Z")

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> [@Coveted Hilton](#):
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> to be honest… gm’s have all sucked sense pretty much 89.

And your '90 CRX is better than what '90 GM? MAYBE a Cavalier. :mad:

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**Author:** ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/32 "2008-01-05T08:16:17Z")

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> [@TORQDSS](#):
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> I know, I’m just being a stubborn/tunnel visioned GM guy… I can’t help myself sometimes

no problem 😉 hehe

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**Author:** ![BrockwayMT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brockwaymt/32/5060_2.png) [@BrockwayMT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BrockwayMT)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/33 "2008-01-05T12:07:01Z")

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> [@MPD47](#):
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> What are those people planning on spending their nonexistant money on after the big 3 fold?

You people just don’t get it. It’s how many of you who aren’t overpaid auto workers will have nonexistant jobs due to the lack of disposable income in the economy.

Anyway, as much as I don’t care for V6’s, I think they are the answer. Today 's DI v6 has better numbers from 3.5 liters than a v8 of 5 liters from fifteen years ago.

But yes GM does suck. Any award they ever win they bought. Who is the only OE to win 2 best engine awards this year? Whose v6 makes more torque than the VQ from less displacement? Who builds the only pushrod engine on the list? GM. Shit they must have paid off everybody.

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**Author:** ![MazerMadness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90db22/32.png) [@MazerMadness](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MazerMadness)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2008, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/34 "2008-01-05T12:17:53Z")

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> [@brent\_strong](#):
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> Check out the new 08 trucks. Seriously on par with the E46 BMW/IS300 etc. Not world class, but MORE THAN good enough for a truck.

Yea, I know they’ve been making strides. I noticed the ltz model of the new malibu had a pretty sharp interior. In all domestics tho, they do all this molding and flowing of the dash and in the end they stick the generic box radio in and send it out, it makes it look like hell. The first thing that comes to mind in regards to a bland interior other than ALMOST every chrysler product is the chevy impala, even the SS is terribly bland. Why not some different materials to break up the space, or different textured materials, little stuff like that makes a difference.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/35 "2008-01-17T05:57:43Z")

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[http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/14532/bye-bye-to-gms-v-8s.html](http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/14532/bye-bye-to-gms-v-8s.html)

> “The replacement of the Northstar, that cancellation was the direct result of the 35-mpg fuel legislation.” GM chairman Rick Wagoner says when the new V-8 family program began, “there was more optimism than we have today,” that V-8 engines could survive in today’s regulatory climate. The engine was to go into production next year, prior to phasing out the Northstar V-8 that is found in many Cadillacs, that is scheduled to be phased out in 2010.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/36 "2008-01-17T06:18:49Z")

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So we’re going to go with turbo V6’s that will get worse fuel economy than a V8 in real world driving, but will look better on the EPA test loop because they use such a light foot.

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**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/37 "2008-01-17T07:07:13Z")

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Don’t toss reality into this!

They really do need to revise the EPA mileage rating system though.

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**Author:** ![1BADGPGT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1badgpgt/32/5123_2.png) [@1BADGPGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1BADGPGT)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/38 "2008-01-17T07:11:33Z")

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WAIT! ehhh oh well.

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/39 "2008-01-17T07:12:29Z")

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whats the reality of the gas mileage of the current v8’s? I have a 6 cylinder and I get pretty piss poor gas mileage, I could only imagine how the v8s are doing.

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-cancels-new-dohc-v8-plans/41171/40 "2008-01-17T07:36:23Z")

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i normally get 26-28mpg on my V6.

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