# GM disbanding high performance division

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [February 26, 2009, 5:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421 "2009-02-26T05:04:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![MX-5](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mx-5/32/6336_2.png) [@MX-5](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MX-5)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 5:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/1 "2009-02-26T05:04:00Z")

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WTF is this shit?! My friend was telling me about this this morning, first I’ve heard of it

> **[Camaro SS and Corvette ZR1 are safe despite disbanding of GM performance...](https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1032271_camaro-ss-and-corvette-zr1-are-safe-despite-disbanding-of-gm-performance-division)**
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> Yesterday’s grim news that General Motors had decided to pull the plug on its High Performance Vehicle Operations (HPVO) caused shockwaves around performance circles, with many believing some of the company’s top sports cars, both current...

whew, at least the Camaro SS and ZR1 are safe

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/2 "2009-02-26T06:48:22Z")

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thank god lol

also found this, I didnt know the SS was getting a supercharged LS8 power plant with 500HP…

> **[Chevrolet Camaro SS to get 500HP supercharged LS8](https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1023810_chevrolet-camaro-ss-to-get-500hp-supercharged-ls8)**
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> GM is counting on V6 equipped Camaros to account for the bulk of its sales but there’s talk of a turbocharged four-cylinder engine among the ranks as well the usual V8 lineup. Latest reports suggest that the flagship Camaro SS will be powered...

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**Author:** ![MX-5](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mx-5/32/6336_2.png) [@MX-5](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MX-5)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/3 "2009-02-26T06:51:18Z")

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I woulda been so pissed if they scraped the new Camaro RIGHT before they were about to make em

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/4 "2009-02-26T06:52:51Z")

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> [@WTB: 92-95 Civic hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-92-95-civic-hatch/14805/4):
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> I woulda been so pissed if they scraped the new Camaro RIGHT before they were about to make em

well, they have had pre orders for them for over a year now…so the people that ordered/paid for them would have still gotten them, but other wise, its tough luck.

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**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/5 "2009-02-26T06:54:50Z")

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old news but still relevant. bye bye cobalt SS and sts v

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/6 "2009-02-26T06:55:50Z")

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A smart move IMO. Especially in todays market.

You need to focus on what works.

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/7 "2009-02-26T06:59:16Z")

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> [@\*\* Jack is Gullible and needs your HELP! \*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-is-gullible-and-needs-your-help/14771/46):
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> A smart move IMO. Especially in todays market.
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> You need to focus on what works.

yah…

GM has way too many vehicles that are so similar to one another, they could get rid of a few models and basically have the same thing…

for example, look at the cobalt SS and the HHR SS? Come on? seriously? they have the same exact power plant just ones uglier then the other.

IMO, what they need to do is have a few of your everyday, good gas mileage small economy cars, a few SUV’s and then the performance line of camaros and vettes…

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**Author:** ![MX-5](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mx-5/32/6336_2.png) [@MX-5](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MX-5)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/8 "2009-02-26T07:02:43Z")

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> [@WTB: 92-95 Civic hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-92-95-civic-hatch/14805/8):
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> yah…
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> GM has way too many vehicles that are so similar to one another, they could get rid of a few models and basically have the same thing…
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> for example, look at the cobalt SS and the HHR SS? Come on? seriously? they have the same exact power plant just ones uglier then the other.
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> IMO, what they need to do is have a few of your everyday, good gas mileage small economy cars, a few SUV’s and then the performance line of camaros and vettes…

Yea the Camaros and Vettes are all I care about. Never really liked the Cobalt SS anyways

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/9 "2009-02-26T07:55:40Z")

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I like choices. Too many choices is not a terrible thing… UAW’s are terrible.

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**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/10 "2009-02-26T08:39:56Z")

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> [@WTB: 92-95 Civic hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-92-95-civic-hatch/14805/8):
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> yah…
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> GM has way too many vehicles that are so similar to one another, they could get rid of a few models and basically have the same thing…
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> for example, look at the cobalt SS and the HHR SS? Come on? seriously? they have the same exact power plant just ones uglier then the other.
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> IMO, what they need to do is have a few of your everyday, good gas mileage small economy cars, a few SUV’s and then the performance line of camaros and vettes…

+1.

HHR is one of the ugliest things on the road. I’d pick a Cobalt SS 11 times out of 10 instead of an HHR.

Chevy should have the Cobalt, Aveo, Lumina, Tahoe, Silverado, Suburban, Corvette, and Camaro.

That’s it.

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/11 "2009-02-26T12:22:04Z")

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Why should they save the Aveo?

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**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/12 "2009-02-26T12:28:34Z")

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> [@TW: 88 yahmaha 440 standup jetski](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-88-yahmaha-440-standup-jetski/14774/10):
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> Why should they save the Aveo?

cuz it’s their only entry into the subcompact car category

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**Author:** ![mcflurry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mcflurry/32/6468_2.png) [@mcflurry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mcflurry)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/13 "2009-02-26T12:30:12Z")

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> [@What did you wear to work today](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-did-you-wear-to-work-today/14797/51):
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> old news but still relevant. bye bye cobalt SS and sts v

cobalts arent high performance lol

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/14 "2009-02-26T12:45:30Z")

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> [@trampoline/jumps/ philippines VIDEO i made \*\*\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trampoline-jumps-philippines-video-i-made/14769/20):
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> cuz it’s their only entry into the subcompact car category

Is that really a big enough market to bother with though?

I had one of those things for a rental for a few hours a few years ago and it was a joke. New car with only an am/fm stereo, crank windows and manual locks.

I kept waiting for clowns to pop out of it.

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/15 "2009-02-26T18:57:46Z")

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> [@\*\* Jack is Gullible and needs your HELP! \*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jack-is-gullible-and-needs-your-help/14771/45):
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> thank god lol
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> also found this, I didnt know the SS was getting a supercharged LS8 power plant with 500HP…
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> [http://www.motorauthority.com/chevrolet-camaro-flagship-to-get-500hp-supercharged-ls8.html](http://www.motorauthority.com/chevrolet-camaro-flagship-to-get-500hp-supercharged-ls8.html)

damn. that should be pretty quick lol.

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**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/16 "2009-02-27T06:17:18Z")

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> [@trampoline/jumps/ philippines VIDEO i made \*\*\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trampoline-jumps-philippines-video-i-made/14769/26):
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> Is that really a big enough market to bother with though?
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> I had one of those things for a rental for a few hours a few years ago and it was a joke. New car with only an am/fm stereo, crank windows and manual locks.
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> I kept waiting for clowns to pop out of it.

yes. you may not like it, but a sub compact may be all some people can afford. To completely ignore that consumer group would be incredibly foolish.

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**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/17 "2009-02-27T06:27:54Z")

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> [@FS:(not mine) 00ish vette](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-not-mine-00ish-vette/14835/9):
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> yes. you may not like it, but a sub compact may be all some people can afford. To completely ignore that consumer group would be incredibly foolish.

+1 I agree with this.

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**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/18 "2009-02-27T07:26:24Z")

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> [@trampoline/jumps/ philippines VIDEO i made \*\*\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/trampoline-jumps-philippines-video-i-made/14769/26):
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> **Is that really a big enough market to bother with though?**
> 
> I had one of those things for a rental for a few hours a few years ago and it was a joke. New car with only an am/fm stereo, crank windows and manual locks.
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> I kept waiting for clowns to pop out of it.

Yes. How many cheap fucks out there want the cheapest car possible with the longest warranty to get them from A to B and nothing more?

Why do you think Hyundai is doing so good right now?:lmao

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**Author:** ![skiboard06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@skiboard06](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/skiboard06)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/19 "2009-02-28T15:56:09Z")

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Oh Heavens! What shall we do without the performance gurus of GM!?!?!?

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-disbanding-high-performance-division/242421/20 "2009-02-28T16:36:31Z")

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> [@Missing Woman in Hamburg](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/missing-woman-in-hamburg/14847/10):
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> Yes. How many cheap fucks out there want the cheapest car possible with the longest warranty to get them from A to B and nothing more?
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> Why do you think Hyundai is doing so good right now?:lmao

I loved my Hyundai and it was a good priced car loaded up with options. It had a $14k sticker price and had power windows, locks, ac, cruise, cd, etc. A base model Cobalt or Focus 4 door cost more.

GM, Ford, Chrysler, etc need to price their cars better to sell more.

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