# gm is a joke.... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 21, 2007, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622 "2007-12-21T12:40:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![VANDIT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vandit/32/4977_2.png) [@VANDIT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VANDIT)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/1 "2007-12-21T12:40:02Z")
[http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071221/bs\_nm/gm\_recall\_dc](http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071221/bs_nm/gm_recall_dc) lol… quality made in the USA! hahahha ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/2 "2007-12-21T12:41:38Z")
weird all the pinon seals on F-bodys leak also lol ---
**Author:** ![Rsnake91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rsnake91/32/4996_2.png) [@Rsnake91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rsnake91)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/3 "2007-12-21T12:54:12Z")
lol wow, and my mom just bought a 07 vue… shes so lucky… ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/4 "2007-12-21T12:55:15Z")
lol, doh. well, its not like other manufacturers don’t have recalls too. :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![TORQDSS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torqdss/32/5125_2.png) [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/5 "2007-12-21T13:00:39Z")
all of the new tundra motors that break camshafts in half… the 500,000 camry’s that were recalled over the summer because of the sludge that caused the engines to fail… the entire Hyundai lineup 5 years ago… Firestone tires on Fords 3 years ago… GM has higher quality ratings than most manufacturers so open your eyes before you start saying GM is a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Mike93](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike93/32/7325_2.png) [@Mike93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike93)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/6 "2007-12-21T13:03:04Z")
> [@VANDIT"](#): > > [http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071221/bs\_nm/gm\_recall\_dc](http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071221/bs_nm/gm_recall_dc) > > lol… > > quality made in the USA! > > hahahha What a dumbshit comment. Shit happens, many companies have recalls. I’d consider it good business practice to make the recall, fix what was wrong, and move on. ---
**Author:** ![ImportMuscle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/importmuscle/32/7615_2.png) [@ImportMuscle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ImportMuscle)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/7 "2007-12-21T13:03:49Z")
> [@VANDIT"](#): > > [http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071221/bs\_nm/gm\_recall\_dc](http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071221/bs_nm/gm_recall_dc) > > lol… > > quality made in the USA! > > hahahha vw=teh quality? :bloated: ---
**Author:** ![Toda\_Party](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toda_party/32/7354_2.png) [@Toda\_Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toda_Party)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/8 "2007-12-21T13:09:18Z")
HONDA OWNS THIS THREAD 😛 ---
**Author:** ![d3x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@d3x](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d3x)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/9 "2007-12-21T13:17:19Z")
> [@TORQDSS](#): > > all of the new tundra motors that break camshafts in half… > the 500,000 camry’s that were recalled over the summer because of the sludge that caused the engines to fail… > the entire Hyundai lineup 5 years ago… > Firestone tires on Fords 3 years ago… > > GM has higher quality ratings than most manufacturers so open your eyes before you start saying GM is a joke. come on now. yes every manufacturer has their quality hiccups. but comparing GM to Toyota in terms of quality is like comparing McDonalds to Zebb’s for burgers. GM may be average compared to the others but Toyota is consistantly one of the top dogs when it comes to quality. ---
**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/10 "2007-12-21T13:17:47Z")
> **[New Volkswagen Car Models | Automotive.com](http://www.automotive.com/volkswagen/t3-13-2/?buy=new)** > > Easier than falling off a log. Get all of the facts about new Volkswagen models at Automotive.com. :bloated: ---
**Author:** ![rj-92](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rj-92/32/7310_2.png) [@rj-92](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rj-92)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/11 "2007-12-21T13:18:30Z")
:lol: You drive a VW and your calling out other maunfactures for quality!!! don’t forget to post after your timing belt goes or when you are done replacing wheel bearings… BTW you have a tail light out. > [@ImportMuscle](#): > > vw=teh quality? > > :bloated: My thoughts exactly ---
**Author:** ![Mike93](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike93/32/7325_2.png) [@Mike93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike93)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/12 "2007-12-21T13:23:01Z")
> [@d3x](#): > > come on now. yes every manufacturer has their quality hiccups. but comparing GM to Toyota in terms of quality is like comparing McDonalds to Zebb’s for burgers. GM may be average compared to the others but Toyota is consistantly one of the top dogs when it comes to quality. Okay, learn before you preach… [http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/16/autos/cr\_reliability/index.htm](http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/16/autos/cr_reliability/index.htm) ---
**Author:** ![VANDIT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vandit/32/4977_2.png) [@VANDIT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VANDIT)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/13 "2007-12-21T13:30:50Z")
> [@rj-92](#): > > :lol: You drive a VW and your calling out other maunfactures for quality!!! don’t forget to post after your timing belt goes or when you are done replacing wheel bearings… BTW you have a tail light out. > > My thoughts exactly Tail lights Check Timing belt Check Wheel bearings Check (and we all know that these maintence issues are ONLY on vw’s) fuckin retard :banghead: all are good… 🤣:nono: I dont get it, a bunch of kids go get some gti’s and blow them up because there stupid kids and go online and talk shit, then NYSPEEDERS! all think there junk because they dont understand… 98% of my costomers are very very happy with the product… Just doesnt make sence… I guess I am just a big :noob: But somehow my expearence tells me otherwise :mamoru: ---
**Author:** ![TORQDSS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torqdss/32/5125_2.png) [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/14 "2007-12-21T13:31:07Z")
> [@LXTASY](#): > > Okay, learn before you preach… > > [Toyota slips in Consumer Reports' reliability rankings - Oct. 16, 2007](http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/16/autos/cr_reliability/index.htm) beat me to it. GM is not perfect, its just real annoying that everyone bashes them all the time. wake up and start reading articles that were written more recent than the 90’s. GM is the biggest manufacturer and seller of automobiles in the world, has the coolest product and has some of the best prices vs what you get. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/15 "2007-12-21T13:33:15Z")
Toyota has been slipping, but they’ve recognized the problem before it got to the point of closing plants all over the world like GM. They are doing a lot right now in terms of Quality Control to bring things back up to their original standard. Part of me wants to bring up how they’re quality has gone down with more of their cars being built here in North America. But I got nothing on that. EDIT - But on a side not, GM isn’t the company that they used to be. The cars that they’ve produced in recent years took a huge jump in quality from the shit they were turning out in the mid to late 90’s. ---
**Author:** ![VANDIT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vandit/32/4977_2.png) [@VANDIT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VANDIT)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/16 "2007-12-21T13:35:40Z")
> [@TORQDSS](#): > > beat me to it. GM is not perfect, its just real annoying that everyone bashes them all the time. wake up and start reading articles that were written more recent than the 90’s. GM is the biggest manufacturer and seller of automobiles in the world, has the coolest product and has some of the best prices vs what you get. i agree 100%, just think that the product they offer (for the most part) in the US is a joke… ---
**Author:** ![rj-92](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rj-92/32/7310_2.png) [@rj-92](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rj-92)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/17 "2007-12-21T13:39:36Z")
> [@VANDIT](#): > > Tail lights Check > Timing belt Check > Wheel bearings Check > > (and we all know that these maintence issues are ONLY on vw’s) fuckin retard :banghead: > > all are good… > > 🤣:nono: > I dont get it, a bunch of kids go get some gti’s and blow them up because there stupid kids and go online and talk shit, then NYSPEEDERS! all think there junk because they dont understand… 98% of my costomers are very very happy with the product… Just doesnt make sence… > > I guess I am just a big :noob: > > But somehow my expearence tells me otherwise :mamoru: THey might be good for now, give it a few months that’ll change. I don’t need to go online and find some doutche bag that blows up his VW to talk shit about them. I owned one for 15 months before I got sick of replacing tail lights and wheel bearings and dicided to get rid of the problem. But mine was a VR6 so wasn’t quite as worried about the timing chain. I have seen enough 2.0l Ts… well what was left of them, to know what happens when the timing belt goes. ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/18 "2007-12-21T13:39:43Z")
i am not one to normally stick up for GM, but there was only 1 incident before the recall. :tup: for being proactive ---
**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/19 "2007-12-21T13:46:32Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > i am not one to normally stick up for GM, but there was only 1 incident before the recall. > > :tup: for being proactive Yeah, they didn’t wait for a bunch of people to die like they usually did. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr_t/32/7454_2.png) [@Mr\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_T)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622/20 "2007-12-21T13:47:18Z")
im not one to support domestics either but from my personal experiences, gm is the only side of the domestics that id even considering buying a vehicle from.Ford and Chrysler, ive had nothing but horrible experiences with, along with most people i know.For instance, my girlfriends mom and my uncle own 2007 fusion se’s.The trannys in those cars shift so sloppy and feel extremely weak.And ford claims they are the most reliable, best car for the money they offer.I can definitely see a tranny rebuild around 40-60 k in these cars. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-a-joke/40622.md?page=2)