# GM is the ruler of the free world **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [November 24, 2008, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370 "2008-11-24T06:18:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/1 "2008-11-24T06:18:02Z")
It is obviously apparent that the LS1 and/or any Chevy performance product is by far superior to any other car platform. :ninja ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/2 "2008-11-24T06:27:20Z")
> [@Pants Party](#): > > It is obviously apparent that the LS1 and/or any Chevy performance product is by far superior to any other car platform. :ninja This is supported by their near bankruptcy. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/3 "2008-11-24T06:34:58Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > This is supported by their near bankruptcy. this economy will crash if they go out. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/4 "2008-11-24T06:40:18Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > this economy will crash if they go out. Perhaps but that’s not relevant to PantsParty’s post. ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/5 "2008-11-24T06:44:19Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > This is supported by their near bankruptcy. That is the most senseless contribution I have seen you make. And usually you have valid points. Here are a few for you. There are many many different business’s failing right now. Most of it has nothing to do with the product but more with the economy, one of them includes GM. Banks are failing as well, hence the bailout for them. They were forced to give out bad credit and this is the fallout. GM sells as many cars, give or take, as other car manufacturers. It is not that the product is bad or that they arent selling it. It is due to the leadership in the company and the decisions they have made that have negatively affected the company worldwide. I am not saying that GM is the best or anything even close to that. But their near bankruptcy is based very little if at all on the actual product they sell. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/6 "2008-11-24T07:02:25Z")
> [@Pants Party](#): > > That is the most senseless contribution I have seen you make. Please don’t try to educate me given you can’t understand the simple correlation with 60’ and ET in drag racing. :lol > [@Pants Party](#): > > There are many many different business’s failing right now. Most of it has nothing to do with the product but more with the economy, one of them includes GM. Stop with your bullshit. Run that on some of the other members here. GM was struggling WELL before the economy puked recently. They had nearly a $39BILLION loss in 2007 alone. Source -\> [GM posts $38.7-billion '07 loss](http://articles.latimes.com/2008/feb/13/business/fi-gm13) It’s hilarious that I seem to know more about GM than you and I don’t even like GM products. :nuts > [@Pants Party](#): > > GM sells as many cars, give or take, as other car manufacturers. It is not that the product is bad or that they arent selling it. It is due to the leadership in the company and the decisions they have made that have negatively affected the company worldwide. Unfortuantely number of sales doesn’t equate to profit. Also, their sales has been decreasing for many quarters. They have also had huge losses. Sources -\> > **[GM posts $38.7-billion '07 loss](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2008-feb-13-fi-gm13-story.html)** > > The automaker, hurt by weak U.S. sales and its exposure to the mortgage crisis, will offer more buyouts. > **[GM Sales Drop 13% In February - AutoSpies Auto News](https://www.autospies.com/news/GM-Sales-Drop-13-In-February-27150/)** > > GM Sales Drop 13% In February [http://www.autounleashed.com/ouch-155-billion-loss-for-gm-in-q2-2008](http://www.autounleashed.com/ouch-155-billion-loss-for-gm-in-q2-2008) > **[GM September Sales Drop 15.6%](https://jalopnik.com/gm-september-sales-drop-15-6-5057594)** > > General Motors reported a 15.6% decline in September sales versus the same period a year earlier. While still posting a decline, GM topped analysts expectations of an approximately 25% drop. GM was hurt by the same market forces affecting other... > [@Pants Party](#): > > I am not saying that GM is the best or anything even close to that. But their near bankruptcy is based very little if at all on the actual product they sell. Yes, you are and I made a fool of you in the process: > [@Pants Party](#): > > It is obviously apparent that the LS1 and/or any Chevy performance product is by far superior to any other car platform. :ninja To add, yes, a lot has to do the with actual products they sell. They were lossing sales for years and losing sales now during the economy slow down. They put a lot of money to revitialize their light truck/SUV right before the gas prices starting to jump.They have been highly criticized for trying to push inefficient autos to consumers among other things. Do you read the paper at all? :lol ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/7 "2008-11-24T07:11:38Z")
Jesus H. Christ. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/8 "2008-11-24T07:13:01Z")
> [@JClark](#): > > Jesus H. Christ. :ohnoes Time for you to trade in the M3 for the new Malibu. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/9 "2008-11-24T07:24:03Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > Please don’t try to educate me given you can’t understand the simple correlation with 60’ and ET in drag racing. :lol > > Stop with your bullshit. Run that on some of the other members here. > > GM was struggling WELL before the economy puked recently. They had nearly a $39BILLION loss in 2007 alone. Source -\> [GM posts $38.7-billion '07 loss](http://articles.latimes.com/2008/feb/13/business/fi-gm13) > > It’s hilarious that I seem to know more about GM than you and I don’t even like GM products. :nuts > > Unfortuantely number of sales doesn’t equate to profit. Also, their sales has been decreasing for many quarters. They have also had huge losses. Sources -\> > > [GM posts $38.7-billion '07 loss](http://articles.latimes.com/2008/feb/13/business/fi-gm13) > [GM Sales Drop 13% In February - AutoSpies Auto News](http://www.autospies.com/news/GM-Sales-Drop-13-In-February-27150/) > [http://www.autounleashed.com/ouch-155-billion-loss-for-gm-in-q2-2008](http://www.autounleashed.com/ouch-155-billion-loss-for-gm-in-q2-2008) > [GM September Sales Drop 15.6%](http://jalopnik.com/5057594/gm-september-sales-drop-156) > > Yes, you are and I made a fool of you in the process: > > To add, yes, a lot has to do the with actual products they sell. They were lossing sales for years and losing sales now during the economy slow down. They put a lot of money to revitialize their light truck/SUV right before the gas prices starting to jump.They have been highly criticized for trying to push inefficient autos to consumers among other things. Do you read the paper at all? :lol Wayy tooo much effort put into hating GM. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/10 "2008-11-24T07:25:54Z")
> [@BENNYFIZZLE](#): > > Wayy tooo much effort put into hating GM. Took less than 2 minutes to produce that post. 🙂 But, it’s not hatin’, but refuting bad information. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/11 "2008-11-24T07:28:59Z")
ok but 2 minutes is way too much time to spend on one post. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/12 "2008-11-24T07:30:13Z")
> [@BENNYFIZZLE](#): > > ok but 2 minutes is way too much time to spend on one post. Go back to drinking the bong juice. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SlackJ94](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slackj94/32/6325_2.png) [@SlackJ94](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SlackJ94)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/13 "2008-11-24T07:39:15Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > Go back to drinking the bong juice. 🙂 :lol ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/14 "2008-11-24T07:41:53Z")
Fuck that have you ever smelled bong water? ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/15 "2008-11-24T07:42:35Z")
> [@BENNYFIZZLE](#): > > Fuck that have you ever smelled bong water? Yes which speaks to your character for drinking that shit. :nono ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/16 "2008-11-24T07:44:32Z")
Never have, never would, never will. You’d have to pay me ALOT of money, plus I’ve been getting into the healthy, more efficient ways of getting blitzed, which don’t involve water which, by the way has been recently proven to filter more THC than it does the harmful tars from combusting a carbon based plant. Which is wicked gay. ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/17 "2008-11-24T07:50:38Z")
I’m fascinated by how much people know about pot. Imagine what we could accomplish as a society if all that energy was put into something productive. We just need to harness the power. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/18 "2008-11-24T07:52:32Z")
> [@JClark](#): > > I’m fascinated by how much people know about pot. Imagine what we could accomplish as a society if all that energy was put into something productive. We just need to harness the power. With the free time then available and all of his ambitions, Beanie would be the next Mayor. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/19 "2008-11-24T07:52:47Z")
> [@JClark](#): > > I’m fascinated by how much people know about pot. Imagine what we could accomplish as a society if all that energy was put into something productive. We just need to harness the power. Yeah it is kind of ridiculous. :rofl ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/20 "2008-11-24T07:52:58Z")
Pot energy? omg the world would be hillarious [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370.md?page=2)