# GM is the ruler of the free world **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [November 24, 2008, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370 "2008-11-24T06:18:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/121 "2008-11-26T23:12:14Z")
i cant understand your run-ons. sorry man. i gave up after the first 2 lines… shawn, while a douche. usually has a good grasp on whats going on… GM never worked to prevent this. now they are hurt and are begging for help. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/122 "2008-11-26T23:15:43Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > hey, shawn96vr4 might be a douche sometimes… but 60% of the time, hes right everytime :hug Interesting #. 🙂 The UNION theory doesn’t work as aside from the actual quarterly loss. The actual sales #s are down. Unless Union people are attacking potential customers at the door? ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/123 "2008-11-26T23:21:07Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > Interesting #. 🙂 > > The UNION theory doesn’t work as aside from the actual quarterly loss. The actual sales #s are down. Unless Union people are attacking potential customers at the door? maybe they are outraged at the fact they have to build such turds and they are going nuts ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/124 "2008-11-26T23:22:27Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > maybe they are outraged at the fact they have to build such turds and they are going nuts A real possibility. 🙂 But, on a more serious note, could this be a wakeup call to GM and whatever company struggling? To make better products? ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/125 "2008-11-26T23:24:04Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > A real possibility. 🙂 > > But, on a more serious note, could this be a wakeup call to GM and whatever company struggling? To make better products? the germans and the japs/koreans seem to be doing ok ---
**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/126 "2008-11-27T00:15:27Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > the germans and the japs/koreans seem to be doing ok The world hits recession when the US does, but doesnt effect child labor rates in Korea much. On a side note, I met a man in PA from TX yesterday who delivers a product to GM… GM isn’t paying on time, and taking many deliveries and his business was dependant on it (too bad) and thus another company going down the tubes…which will hurt GM’s future supply line affordability. They are now paying more until the next delivery company tools up… but what companys gonna make that investment until they now GM will be solvent enough to pay. What a mess were all in. Well, some of us… the smart will aim toward a recession proof business. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/127 "2008-11-27T07:14:50Z")
> [@Jammer](#): > > What a mess were all in. Well, some of us… the smart will aim toward a recession proof business. I am looking to change to a new job that does insurance/reinsurance. My thoughts is that everyone needs it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/128 "2008-11-27T07:51:47Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > the germans and the japs/koreans seem to be doing ok and quite a few of their cars are made here. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/129 "2008-11-27T08:00:50Z")
> [@PJB](#): > > and quite a few of their cars are made here. How is that possible given the UNIONS are the problem? ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/130 "2008-11-27T08:03:39Z")
I dont know but theres alot of Toyota’s, Honda’s, Hyundai’s, etc made here. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/131 "2008-11-27T08:07:44Z")
> [@PJB](#): > > I dont know but theres alot of Toyota’s, Honda’s, Hyundai’s, etc made here. Yep. Other people love to blame this and that though. ---
**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/132 "2008-11-27T23:04:11Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > I am looking to change to a new job that does insurance/reinsurance. My thoughts is that everyone needs it. 🙂 kidding right? insurance is an option. Reinsurance is profitable. I wish you luck. Specific market maybe, but that mkt is likely to be very tiffeled in the next 5 years. ---
**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/133 "2008-11-27T23:05:06Z")
> [@PJB](#): > > I dont know but theres alot of Toyota’s, Honda’s, Hyundai’s, etc made here. How involved is the UAW with Toyotas, hondas and Hyundais ? Explain ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/134 "2008-11-28T01:18:47Z")
Like I said Ive got no idea. What I replied to was a post saying that they seem to be doing ok. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/135 "2008-11-28T11:50:24Z")
> [@Jammer](#): > > kidding right? insurance is an option. Reinsurance is profitable. I wish you luck. Specific market maybe, but that mkt is likely to be very tiffeled in the next 5 years. Business insurant is an option? ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/136 "2008-11-28T14:56:11Z")
another aspect that you have to keep in mind is all the government regulations and all the safety and epa standards that drive the cost up from vehicles, like shawn said already, i dont think anyone can pinpoint the problem because there is so much going on. I think its a big deal because the big threee have been the face of americas vehicles and everyone gets bent out of shape when they started going under, lets face it, the big three arent the only ones having trouble selling cars, i believe that most of the car market isnt moving to fast lately ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/137 "2008-11-28T16:27:05Z")
> [@plaf713](#): > > another aspect that you have to keep in mind is all the government regulations and all the safety and epa standards that drive the cost up from vehicles, like shawn said already, i dont think anyone can pinpoint the problem because there is so much going on. I think its a big deal because the big threee have been the face of americas vehicles and everyone gets bent out of shape when they started going under, lets face it, the big three arent the only ones having trouble selling cars, i believe that most of the car market isnt moving to fast lately so very true its not even funny ---
**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/138 "2008-11-28T16:53:14Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > Business insurant is an option? To an extent… ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/139 "2008-11-28T17:06:12Z")
> [@Jammer](#): > > To an extent… Buy CM car. ---
**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370/140 "2008-11-28T17:30:12Z")
Less business= less insurance needs. This economy = less businesses. Its really pretty simple Sam. Clark, Tryin… [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-is-the-ruler-of-the-free-world/240370.md?page=8)