# GM rethinking "SS" **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 15, 2006, 4:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687 "2006-12-15T04:40:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687/21 "2006-12-18T08:47:45Z")
don’t you know daytona mean big ring in mopar land :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![rskrause](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rskrause/32/7367_2.png) [@rskrause](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rskrause)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687/22 "2006-12-18T12:32:14Z")
> [@TrueBlue](#): > > The “other” Daytona: > > ![http://i15.ebayimg.com/02/i/03/4e/1b/fa_1_b.JPG](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/4/d/4dcb57651a75abfd07fb36c70c6c5108c49bdb34.jpeg) > > ![http://www.swiftindavis.com/sblog/media/1/20050220-DodgeRamDaytona1.jpg](http://www.swiftindavis.com/sblog/media/1/20050220-DodgeRamDaytona1.jpg) > > Trucks with wings. :bloated: That truck is fugly to the max. DC’s misuse of “Charger” and “Daytona” may be even worse than the pollution of “SS”. However, what about this turd as a “Grand Prix”: ![http://usaclassiccars.com/images/files/66pontiacgrandprix_161469_24.jpg](http://usaclassiccars.com/images/files/66pontiacgrandprix_161469_24.jpg) vs. ![http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Grand-Prix-4.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/6/d/6dcd3beff844e781ce4f5e144c23f9c8e62b543f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687/23 "2006-12-18T12:43:32Z")
LOL…it only took 3 years to figure out that they were making a mockery of their once legendary nameplates. Silly GM for being so American in everything they do ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687/24 "2006-12-18T12:43:51Z")
![http://www.premium-motors.com/assets/images/66pont01.jpg](http://www.premium-motors.com/assets/images/66pont01.jpg) ![http://www2.uol.com.br/bestcars/carros/gm/antigos/pontiac-lemans-88-3.jpg](http://www2.uol.com.br/bestcars/carros/gm/antigos/pontiac-lemans-88-3.jpg) Shit, we could keep this going all day. :bloated: ---
**Author:** ![Mrs\_Karus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mrs_karus/32/7426_2.png) [@Mrs\_Karus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mrs_Karus)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687/25 "2006-12-18T12:44:17Z")
american cars ftl ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687/26 "2006-12-18T13:04:04Z")
We could do this with japenese car markers too Light, nimble sports car ![http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~nsadhal/240z.jpg](http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~nsadhal/240z.jpg) VS Overweight two seater ![http://www.nissan.co.nz/images/vehicle/350z/350z_left_panel.jpg](http://www.nissan.co.nz/images/vehicle/350z/350z_left_panel.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687/27 "2006-12-18T13:08:32Z")
Are you deficient in the brain? Comparing the old school Z to the Z33 is beyond ridiculous. It has always been a sports oriented car regardless of the incarnation. Its NOT a 4 door sedan with a “I think I am Fast” badge on the door. :bloated: ---
**Author:** ![87FOXGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ecd19e/32.png) [@87FOXGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87FOXGT)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687/28 "2006-12-18T13:12:42Z")
:word: +1 ---
**Author:** ![Adictd2b00st](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/adictd2b00st/32/7625_2.png) [@Adictd2b00st](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Adictd2b00st)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687/29 "2006-12-18T13:15:06Z")
hahahaha wow … ---
**Author:** ![rskrause](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rskrause/32/7367_2.png) [@rskrause](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rskrause)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687/30 "2006-12-18T13:24:22Z")
![http://forum.avtoindex.com/foto/data/media/37/mustang_shelby_65_1.jpg](http://forum.avtoindex.com/foto/data/media/37/mustang_shelby_65_1.jpg) vs. ![http://www.hubcapcafe.com/i/2000/nu_brite2000/must7801.JPG](http://www.hubcapcafe.com/i/2000/nu_brite2000/must7801.JPG) It’s not just GM and DC. Seems like a domestic disease. ---
**Author:** ![ugo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ugo/32/7430_2.png) [@ugo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ugo)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687/31 "2006-12-18T13:27:51Z")
> [@66impalass](#): > > We could do this with japenese car markers too > Light, nimble sports car > VS > Overweight two seater Hey what the frick are you doing putting this shit in my “SS” post. Didn’t you realize this was just supposed to be about GM union made garbage? If you have an axe to grind with foreign non-union garbage, make your own post!:lol: ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687/32 "2006-12-18T13:27:51Z")
> We could do this with japenese car markers too Sure you can. 2G to 3G ![http://cubanlink17.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/eclipsespyder-1.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/a/5/a5c929b186ac04d1bd12d2836163e9fb42aae1c4.jpeg) 😉 :lol: ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687/33 "2006-12-18T13:28:18Z")
Even worse then that mustang II you have there is this ![http://www.californiaclassics.nl/images/ford/mustang-1971-01-01.jpg](http://www.californiaclassics.nl/images/ford/mustang-1971-01-01.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![rskrause](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rskrause/32/7367_2.png) [@rskrause](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rskrause)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687/34 "2006-12-18T13:29:58Z")
> [@2TurboZ](#): > > Even worse then that mustang II you have there is this That is surely a turd in its’ own right! ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687/35 "2006-12-18T13:53:50Z")
The mustang grande…you know how I know they are awful…because my cousin had one with a DSS 331 shortblock, AFR heads and a host of other goodies and no matter how fast it was…it was still a “luxury” mustang complete with wood panel dash that was just AWFUL Turd is exactly right…not even a polished turd ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687/36 "2006-12-18T13:56:02Z")
Mustang II was touted as “the right car” at the time. The oil fiasco put everybody in smaller cars, and even Iaccoca prefered this car, saying it was “the closest to the original.” I guess. :gotme: Even among vintage Mustang guys, the '71-'73 cars are disliked pretty heavily. They put on almost **600** lbs. from the '69-'70 cars. They _were_ turds. ---
**Author:** ![Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jon)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687/37 "2006-12-18T18:45:34Z")
1986 nova (toyota in disguise) ![http://www.angelfire.com/blog/1000-1500/pictures/thumbnails/400x300/100_0047.JPG](http://www.angelfire.com/blog/1000-1500/pictures/thumbnails/400x300/100_0047.JPG) 1968 nova ![http://www.musclegarage.com/1968-Nova-A026-%2813%29.jpg](http://www.musclegarage.com/1968-Nova-A026-%2813%29.jpg) lolz ---
**Author:** ![raven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@raven](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/raven)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2006, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687/38 "2006-12-19T11:12:21Z")
> [@66impalass](#): > > We could do this with japenese car markers too > > Light, nimble sports car > removed for size images > > VS > same :3 > Overweight two seater Lol this is the best response. If you were smarter at pointing at flaws, you would of said that “280Z -\> 300Z (Z30-32) were getting heavier. However, they still maintained a significant level of sport’s like characteristics” Only cars over the years that has lost its sportiness are: o Corolla. Went from sporty compact FR to family eco FF cars. o Celica. Similar to Corolla in the way it lost much of it’s sporty appeal. However, it was nipped very early in the ears after the Celica/Supra split [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-rethinking-ss/21687.md?page=1)