# GM sends letter to suppliers asking them to lobby for money.. gets this in reply **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [March 11, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739 "2009-03-11T18:59:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/21 "2009-03-12T16:51:29Z")
Those pricks working 35 hours a week drinking coffee and making $85K a year are THE problem. The fact they make shitty cars just adds to it. It’s just funny that after 35 hours a week they go home to their $750K house… Well, they DID… ---
**Author:** ![Silent](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/silent/32/6292_2.png) [@Silent](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silent)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/22 "2009-03-12T17:25:42Z")
very well written …id like to see this guy on like CNN or someting tslking about all this …think it would be a good interview ---
**Author:** ![Code\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ea924/32.png) [@Code\_Blue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Code_Blue)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/23 "2009-03-12T17:36:57Z")
> [@Tech Jobs available at my work](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tech-jobs-available-at-my-work/15441/8): > > Those pricks working 35 hours a week drinking coffee and making $85K a year are THE problem. The fact they make shitty cars just adds to it. It’s just funny that after 35 hours a week they go home to their $750K house… Well, they DID… wait… doesn’t that describe your job?? jk ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/24 "2009-03-12T17:40:00Z")
> [@LG VX8500 (Chocolate)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lg-vx8500-chocolate/15458/8): > > wait… doesn’t that describe your job?? > > jk LOLZ. I work my nuts off but I don’t make $85K and I hate coffee. I also live in an apartment. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Code\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ea924/32.png) [@Code\_Blue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Code_Blue)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/25 "2009-03-12T17:40:45Z")
yea. but its a 750k dollar apartment !! ---
**Author:** ![HudsonFalcon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hudsonfalcon/32/6460_2.png) [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/26 "2009-03-12T17:55:57Z")
I’ve never seen the truth about the bailout put so eloquently. Bravo Mr. Knox. ---
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/27 "2009-03-13T05:31:13Z")
HA! Well put, Mr Knox, well put. ---
**Author:** ![n\_cole](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n_cole/32/6382_2.png) [@n\_cole](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n_cole)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/28 "2009-03-13T06:24:02Z")
> [@99FRC"](#): > > Nicole… > > I have not had a problem with you yet on this forum but don’t push it:shifty :lol How many cars does Chevy alone currently have in their lineup? Like 17 or something like that? Say it was even only 10. Out of those 10, there mightbe 3 that sell decent. Why are you still making the other 7!? I mean, making the same car under a different make… okay. Whatever. Toyota/Lexus do it, and it works for them. Infiniti/Nissan do it, don’t see a problem there. But if the car isn’t selling, why are you making three versions of it? I guess what I’m saying is, not every car they make is an ugly and feels cheap, but they do offer a lot of cars that no one buys. Audi/VW for example do not have all that many cars to offer, but they make sure the ones that they do offer are selling, or they don’t sell them anymore. That’s the exact reason we do not have the new Scirocco. …and I’m out. ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/29 "2009-03-13T06:29:30Z")
The problem isnt the cars available, its how much it costs GM to produce each one. Americans are still stupid enough to buy American cars (hell look at this forum). Toyota produces 4xx,000 cars per platform, Honda produces 509,000 cars per platform. GM produces 300,000 cars per platform. They aren’t exactly a model of efficiency. Now add labor costs. Now add supplier costs. ---
**Author:** ![n\_cole](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n_cole/32/6382_2.png) [@n\_cole](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n_cole)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/30 "2009-03-13T06:31:02Z")
That’s what I don’t get, why are they spending so much money to make a car no one buys. Are you really that retarded that you have no concept of this going on GM? ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/31 "2009-03-13T06:32:31Z")
That sounds about right now. ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/32 "2009-03-13T06:37:03Z")
> [@Jon Stewart on Net Neutrality... Hilarious!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/jon-stewart-on-net-neutrality-hilarious/15487/2): > > Americans are still stupid enough to buy American cars (hell look at this forum). What someone thinks about a car is subjective and biased. You can’t argue that people are stupid for buying a car that you think is a POS, just because it’s what you think. Every make of car has it’s ups and downs and each one is obviously different and appeals to different people for different reasons. ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/33 "2009-03-13T06:39:53Z")
Case in point. :thumbup Good for GM tho. People DO buy their cars. People WANT their cars. Except they cant produce them and sell them in a profitable manner for really really stupid reasons. ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/34 "2009-03-13T07:37:19Z")
True. GM does not need a bail out. They need to fail IMO. That way they are forced to rebuild the company the way it should be run. Instead of being rewarded for their mistakes. Again, it is survival of the fittest. If you run a company like shit, the consequences are inevitable and by no means should they be rewarded in the form of bailouts. ---
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/35 "2009-03-13T07:38:50Z")
GM doesnt, the PEOPLE do. The working class. ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/36 "2009-03-13T09:54:04Z")
> [@Tonight (8/4) Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby @ regal on transit](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tonight-8-4-talladega-nights-the-ballad-of-ricky-bobby-regal-on-transit/15492/26): > > GM doesnt, the PEOPLE do. The working class. Not to hijack the thread, but no one deserves a bailout. Not even the working class. One of the major reasons we are in this rut right now is because people took out more credit than they could handle, or they took out risky credit(ARM mortgages). We shouldn’t be rewarded for our mistakes either. ---
**Author:** ![n\_cole](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n_cole/32/6382_2.png) [@n\_cole](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n_cole)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/37 "2009-03-13T10:01:28Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/15478/8): > > Not to hijack the thread, but no one deserves a bailout. Not even the working class. One of the major reasons we are in this rut right now is because people took out more credit than they could handle, or they took out risky credit(ARM mortgages). We shouldn’t be rewarded for our mistakes either. You mean like with a stimulus package for the undeserving lazy fucks sucking the life out of us as a nation? I mean, is it just me or does it not make any sense that to get out of the Great Depression the government created JOBS. They did not give out FREE MONEY. Maybe we should try OMFGZ getting up and going to work every day to EARN your money!? :banghead ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/38 "2009-03-13T10:11:41Z")
> [@WTB: Honda Motor](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-honda-motor/15493/4): > > You mean like with a stimulus package for the undeserving lazy fucks sucking the life out of us as a nation? > > I mean, is it just me or does it not make any sense that to get out of the Great Depression the government created JOBS. They did not give out FREE MONEY. Maybe we should try OMFGZ getting up and going to work every day to EARN your money!? :banghead Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/39 "2009-03-13T11:12:26Z")
Excellent and well written. And keep up the logic… I like it. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmerz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jimmerz/32/6370_2.png) [@Jimmerz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jimmerz)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739/40 "2009-03-13T12:28:20Z")
> [@Tech Jobs available at my work](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tech-jobs-available-at-my-work/15441/8): > > Those pricks working 35 hours a week drinking coffee and making $85K a year are THE problem. The fact they make shitty cars just adds to it. It’s just funny that after 35 hours a week they go home to their $750K house… Well, they DID… the 85k is all inclusive… not just an hourly wage. it includes what the company pays for in healthcare medical and dental plus the companies contribution to the employees retirement fund plus the life insurance that they take out on you when your hired. the greatest problem the auto industry has is the retirement funds, lay off perks and the growing medical expenses. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-sends-letter-to-suppliers-asking-them-to-lobby-for-money-gets-this-in-reply/242739.md?page=3)