# GM to Shread auto companies to be able to be bailed out!!!!

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive
**Created:** [December 3, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539 "2008-12-03T12:30:56Z")
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### Author: ![jtviggen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@jtviggen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jtviggen)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/1 "2008-12-03T12:30:56Z")

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Auto Bailout: GM May Axe Pontiac, Hummer, Saturn and Saab  
-USNews.com

in a nutshell GM wants to NOW focus on their Domestic brands!!!

[http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/daily-news/081201-Auto-Bailout-GM-May-Axe-Pontiac-Hummer-Saturn-and-Saab/](http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/daily-news/081201-Auto-Bailout-GM-May-Axe-Pontiac-Hummer-Saturn-and-Saab/)

which would mean my car would be more rare and valueable than it is today if no one buys up saab and the other gm companies

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### Author: ![slwrthnu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slwrthnu/32/6296_2.png) [@slwrthnu](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slwrthnu)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/2 "2008-12-03T13:36:42Z")

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im sorry, i doubt it will help the value of your car at all. if anything i would expect it to hurt it more then help it.

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### Author: ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/3 "2008-12-03T14:11:00Z")

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Pontiac, Hummer, and GMC need to go. Pontiacs are just re-badged chevrolets (as is GMC), and Hummer… need I say more?

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### Author: ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/4 "2008-12-03T14:13:57Z")

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> [@slwrthnu](#):
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> im sorry, i doubt it will help the value of your car at all. if anything i would expect it to hurt it more then help it.

+1…

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### Author: ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/5 "2008-12-03T14:25:50Z")

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> [@jtviggen](#):
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> Auto Bailout: GM May Axe Pontiac, Hummer, Saturn and Saab  
> -USNews.com
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> in a nutshell GM wants to NOW focus on their Domestic brands!!!
> 
> [http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/daily-news/081201-Auto-Bailout-GM-May-Axe-Pontiac-Hummer-Saturn-and-Saab/](http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/daily-news/081201-Auto-Bailout-GM-May-Axe-Pontiac-Hummer-Saturn-and-Saab/)
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> which would mean my car would be more rare and valueable than it is today if no one buys up saab and the other gm companies

good

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### Author: ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/6 "2008-12-03T14:30:09Z")

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> [@slwrthnu](#):
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> im sorry, i doubt it will help the value of your car at all. if anything i would expect it to hurt it more then help it.

true. low production doesnt mean valuable in every case, unless its a highly desirable car. which a saaaaab 9-3 viggen is not.

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### Author: ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/7 "2008-12-03T14:32:35Z")

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I think the Hummer and SAAB brand will be safe, even if GM decides to sell it off; I am sure someone will pick those up. To me there is only one Hummer and that is the H1, that car will live on, oil crisis or not, there will always be a demand (however small) for it. It would be funny if FHI picked up SAAB, adding them to their auto and aerospace portfolio, and turn it into some “luxury” Japanese brand like Lexus and Infiniti.

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### Author: ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/8 "2008-12-03T14:41:27Z")

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> [@RocketPunch](#):
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> I think the Hummer and SAAB brand will be safe, even if GM decides to sell it off; I am sure someone will pick those up. To me there is only one Hummer and that is the H1, that car will live on, oil crisis or not, there will always be a demand (however small) for it. It would be funny if FHI picked up SAAB, adding them to their auto and aerospace portfolio, and turn it into some “luxury” Japanese brand like Lexus and Infiniti.

GM already axed the H1 :nana

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### Author: ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/9 "2008-12-03T18:50:27Z")

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GMC needs to go. Generic made Chevy FTL.

I thought GM shouldve killed GMC instead of Oldsmobile a few years back.

Pontiac’s got some different shit than Chevy does. If they knew how to market the G8 it might sell better.

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### Author: ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/10 "2008-12-03T19:32:19Z")

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> [@jtviggen](#):
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> Auto Bailout: GM May Axe Pontiac, Hummer, Saturn and Saab  
> -USNews.com
> 
> in a nutshell GM wants to NOW focus on their Domestic brands!!!
> 
> [http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/daily-news/081201-Auto-Bailout-GM-May-Axe-Pontiac-Hummer-Saturn-and-Saab/](http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/daily-news/081201-Auto-Bailout-GM-May-Axe-Pontiac-Hummer-Saturn-and-Saab/)
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> which would mean my car would be more rare and valueable than it is today if no one buys up saab and the other gm companies

your car wont be worth anymore than it is now if they get rid of saturn and saab they would do better along wit subaru yes g/m is in bed wit them also ,they would do a lot better along with ditching half the concept,s that never make it. if they ax pontiac they would lose a few cars like the new camaro as there based on a pontiac platform or the zeta platform so i doubt they would kill them ,get rid of the hummer h3 and h3t and they would be off to a better start

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### Author: ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/11 "2008-12-03T19:59:08Z")

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MclosenGTP’s car is going to be worth billlions#(%$#9 :ahh

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### Author: ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/12 "2008-12-03T20:10:01Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> MclosenGTP’s car is going to be worth billlions#(%$#9 :ahh

ummmmmmm no very doubtfull but i bet pants party,s vette will bewoth a mill :nana

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### Author: ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/13 "2008-12-03T20:15:32Z")

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My prediction.

One last race between McLosen and SSmokin. I predict the torque of SSmoookin’s LS1 to beat anything McLosen can do. McLosen, SSmokin, and PantsParty sell their cars for a few trillion each and move to Fiji and join the next Survivor series.

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### Author: ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/14 "2008-12-03T20:17:06Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> My prediction.
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> One last race between McLosen and SSmokin. I predict the torque of SSmoookin’s LS1 to beat anything McLosen can do. McLosen, SSmokin, and PantsParty sell their cars for a few trillion each and move to Fiji and join the next Survivor series.

bold prediction, i think mclosen goes to celebrity rehab though

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### Author: ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/15 "2008-12-03T20:19:11Z")

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> [@plaf713](#):
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> bold prediction, i think mclosen goes to celebrity rehab though

Yea, it was a bit optimistic but it still has a shot.

McLosen’s future is more easier to predict. I would agree with the rehab stint.

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### Author: ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/16 "2008-12-03T20:21:02Z")

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i can’t wait for the day that mclosen will man up, spool up and rip smokinsss a fresh asshole

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### Author: ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/17 "2008-12-03T20:23:05Z")

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It’s a lose-lose situation.

1. McLaren wins and we hear how Grand Prix are like LS1s
2. SSmookin wins and we hear how LS1s are LS1s

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### Author: ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/18 "2008-12-03T20:23:27Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> My prediction.
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> One last race between McLosen and SSmokin. I predict the torque of SSmoookin’s LS1 to beat anything McLosen can do. McLosen, SSmokin, and PantsParty sell their cars for a few trillion each and move to Fiji and join the next Survivor series.

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

Seriously though, I heard this idea today and I see nothing wrong with it besides it taking a little bit to be put into effect and chopping off certain dealerships, but how about take the Big 3’s few successful cars, (Jeeps, Corvettes, Mustangs, Town & Country minivans), then have one Sebring/Malibu type car, an Edge/Traverse type crossover, a cool car like the PT Cruiser used to be or the Flex is now, have a Crossfire/Solstice type of deal and take the best things out of the Ram/F series/Silverado trucks and put it under one name… AMC. I think over the long run this is by far the best solution, then have a big ol’ orgy of all the top secret new cars that are in each of their pipelines and have those under AMC, too.

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### Author: ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2008, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gm-to-shread-auto-companies-to-be-able-to-be-bailed-out/240539/19 "2008-12-03T20:26:06Z")

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I can’t believe you brought up AMC. :lol

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### Author: ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)
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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> I can’t believe you brought up AMC. :lol

I just think it’s a good name ;D Whaddaya think of the concept, though?

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