# GM's Answer to the Raptor???? **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 22, 2010, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486 "2010-12-22T09:53:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cheeks](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cheeks/32/5930_2.png) [@Cheeks](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cheeks)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/1 "2010-12-22T09:53:28Z")
> **[GMC Sierra All Terrain HD - going off-road, big time](http://paultan.org/2010/12/22/gmc-sierra-all-terrain-hd-concept-going-off-road-big-time/)** > > GMC has come up with the Sierra All Terrain HD Concept, essentially an exploration of how you can get a heavy-duty truck to become a stylish off-road mule. The rugged 4WD beast, which will debut in Detroit next month, sits on a 2011 Sierra HD... ![http://assets6.paultan.org/image/sierra-1.jpg](http://assets6.paultan.org/image/sierra-1.jpg) ![http://assets6.paultan.org/image/sierra-2.jpg](http://assets6.paultan.org/image/sierra-2.jpg) Not bad, but not worth the 55k they’ll probably be asking for it. Plus, IFS scares me in a heavy duty pickup, always has ---
**Author:** ![SoLow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solow/32/6001_2.png) [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/2 "2010-12-22T10:02:54Z")
i like it…was checking it out the other day online ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/3 "2010-12-22T10:03:57Z")
Nice,IFS aint bad,GM’s had it since 88! ---
**Author:** ![SK360](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sk360/32/5933_2.png) [@SK360](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SK360)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/4 "2010-12-22T10:15:27Z")
Nice… we’ll see if they actually make it tho. Still want a Raptor tho. ---
**Author:** ![danhr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@danhr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/danhr)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/5 "2010-12-22T10:39:18Z")
hopefully not all of that is standard… swing out steps, ifs, and 20’s ftl ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/6 "2010-12-22T11:38:37Z")
uh, isn’t the Raptor supposed to be a light and nimble off road racer? ---
**Author:** ![SK360](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sk360/32/5933_2.png) [@SK360](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SK360)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/7 "2010-12-22T12:18:04Z")
Yeah, this thing seems way too heavy to do half the shit the raptor does… Raptors are fun to jump. lol. ---
**Author:** ![Cheeks](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cheeks/32/5930_2.png) [@Cheeks](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cheeks)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/8 "2010-12-22T12:46:01Z")
> [@SK360](#): > > Yeah, this thing seems way too heavy to do half the shit the raptor does… Raptors are fun to jump. lol. how many times have you jumped a raptor? ---
**Author:** ![SixSpeed454SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SixSpeed454SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SixSpeed454SS)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/9 "2010-12-22T15:39:07Z")
I like it. ---
**Author:** ![bgblockelcamino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bgblockelcamino/32/5997_2.png) [@bgblockelcamino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bgblockelcamino)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/10 "2010-12-22T15:42:36Z")
looks like a nice mall crawler ---
**Author:** ![SK360](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sk360/32/5933_2.png) [@SK360](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SK360)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/11 "2010-12-22T19:04:22Z")
> [@Cheeks](#): > > how many times have you jumped a raptor? None… yet… but a certain orange one I know is begging to be jumped. ---
**Author:** ![danhr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@danhr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/danhr)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/12 "2010-12-23T04:07:48Z")
> [@SK360](#): > > None… yet… but a certain orange one I know is begging to be jumped. so they are fun to jump… but you haven’t jumped one? you realize this is equivilant to a virgin saying that sex is the greatest thing ever, right? ---
**Author:** ![Cheeks](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cheeks/32/5930_2.png) [@Cheeks](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cheeks)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/13 "2010-12-23T06:45:50Z")
> [@danhr](#): > > so they are fun to jump… but you haven’t jumped one? > > you realize this is equivilant to a virgin saying that sex is the greatest thing ever, right? this ---
**Author:** ![danhr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@danhr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/danhr)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/14 "2010-12-23T07:00:53Z")
> [@Cheeks](#): > > this that ---
**Author:** ![Zack01GC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zack01GC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zack01GC)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/15 "2010-12-23T22:21:05Z")
Ugly. Big suprise there with what GM has been shitting out lately. Put me down for one Raptor. (After I hit the lottery, of course.) ---
**Author:** ![tjZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2010, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/16 "2010-12-25T00:11:52Z")
Why is everybody comparing this thing to the Raptor. The idea with a truck like this would **NOT** be to compete with the Raptor. The Raptor **IS THE TOY ITSELF** whereas this is meant to **TOW YOUR TOYS WHEN THAT MEANS TOWING OFFROAD**. For example, go see [my post here](http://www.pittspeed.com/showthread.php?200670-post-your-latest-purchase&p=3148020&viewfull=1#post3148020). When we go and camp to run these things we go way off the pavement. With a big trailer (like my enclosed, not the open my rail is on in that post) sometimes you need to carry some speed through some rough stuff… stock HDs don’t do too well at that. **THIS IS NOT “GM’S ANSWER TO THE RAPTOR” IT IS GM’S ANSWER TO A REAL WORLD NEED THAT GUYS LIKE I HAVE** The Raptor on the other hand really answers no need. It’s not really capable as a pre-runner or in the dunes, it can’t really tow, etc. I guess it answers the question “Yo BRO-TATO I just got a hella sick flat-brim Monster hat, what truck should I buy to match it!?!?!?!” > [@Zack01GC](#): > > Ugly. Big suprise there with what GM has been shitting out lately. > > Put me down for one Raptor. (After I hit the lottery, of course.) I really don’t care if you don’t like how my truck looks… you suck on '84 German cocks. But if GM is shitting out the new LML Duramax then I don’t even want to know how Ford is failing it up big enough to have better #s (400/800 vs. 397/765 HP/TQ for Ford and GM respectively) yet get their fucking taints handed to them in the real world. [http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/11/chevy-vs-ford-in-heavy-duty-rumble-in-the-rockies.html](http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/11/chevy-vs-ford-in-heavy-duty-rumble-in-the-rockies.html) https://www.youtube.com/embed/xrqyXRGPd00?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PL5BB9CC4895269C83 -TJ ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2010, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/17 "2010-12-25T11:20:34Z")
I :love: TJ ---
**Author:** ![tjZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2010, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/18 "2010-12-25T13:37:31Z")
> [@Cheeks"](#): > > Not bad, but not worth the 55k they’ll probably be asking for it. Plus, IFS scares me in a heavy duty pickup, always has BTW, I’d honestly expect it to be far north of $55k… all of the big 3 Diesels are $60k+ already with the crew cab, 4x4, and the top trim level. Whether or not you think it’s “worth” that much I guess is up to you. And what scares you about IFS? Ask any Dodge HD owner how often they have to rebuild their whole front ends and you’ll see solid axles aren’t necessarily immune to problems. GM just beefed up the entire IFS on the '11 HDs. > [@Turbo Silverado](#): > > I :love: TJ :love: u 2 -TJ ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/19 "2010-12-25T17:48:55Z")
> [@tjZ28](#): > > And what scares you about IFS? Ask any Dodge HD owner how often they have to rebuild their whole front ends and you’ll see solid axles aren’t necessarily immune to problems… > -TJ fellow friend of mine that does landscaping as well has done this twice so far to pass inspections. ---
**Author:** ![SK360](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sk360/32/5933_2.png) [@SK360](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SK360)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486/20 "2010-12-25T18:47:08Z")
> [@danhr](#): > > so they are fun to jump… but you haven’t jumped one? > > you realize this is equivilant to a virgin saying that sex is the greatest thing ever, right? Judging by these videos, I can make an educated guess that these owners are not having a bad time. [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/4/0/40fb5d6dc83fdc3951c8234892a1cc992a68572a.jpeg "Best Ford Raptor Jump") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D293JE35vPE) [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/d/b/dbb0d11cc26729e6c410cd9819fd3f3bd56c03fd.jpeg "ford raptor jump") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asZNkQDJ3Ys) I’m just sayin. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-answer-to-the-raptor/207486.md?page=2)