# GM's Chevy Camaro Outsells Ford Mustang, Ending Pony Car's 24-Year Reign

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**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [January 4, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-chevy-camaro-outsells-ford-mustang-ending-pony-cars-24-year-reign/256282 "2011-01-04T20:21:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-chevy-camaro-outsells-ford-mustang-ending-pony-cars-24-year-reign/256282/21 "2011-01-05T14:50:51Z")

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> [@STi vs civic vs GTi (NSFW on post #222)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-vs-civic-vs-gti-nsfw-on-post-222/38452/90):
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> Honestly, I’m not a very big fan of american cars in general (well known fact here that I prefer Japanese over German \> American \> etc.). There are exceptions though.
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> However, the Camaro is 10000000x better looking than the Mustang in their current design. Back in the mid 2000’s, the SVT’s in particular were gorgeous while the Camaro (OP’s for example) I found to be, personally, fugly. Just my opinion though.
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> That being said, most of the American cars coming out now are much better than years past and I wouldn’t be ashamed to be seen in a 2011 model American product as I would have been in a 2003 American model.
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> The new crossover SUV’s such as the Ford Edge, GMC Terrain, GMC Acadia, Cobalt (now defunct), some of the Lincoln cars, etc. are VERY GOOD LOOKING automobiles and I wouldn’t surprise myself one bit if somewhere down the road I got one of those SUV’s. I personally think the Edge is the best crossover available.

Thanks PJB.

I find the new camaro’s to be ugly and I would take a new mustang over one any day of the week.

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**Author:** ![Eatonualive](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eatonualive/32/6442_2.png) [@Eatonualive](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eatonualive)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-chevy-camaro-outsells-ford-mustang-ending-pony-cars-24-year-reign/256282/22 "2011-01-05T15:18:39Z")

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gotta give the blue oval camp credit for how awesome these new stangs run lol. they actually changed and tweaked alot from the previous models. chevy just made a car around how it looks. the rest of the car seems like an afterthought.

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**Author:** ![Mark355](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mark355/32/6528_2.png) [@Mark355](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mark355)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-chevy-camaro-outsells-ford-mustang-ending-pony-cars-24-year-reign/256282/23 "2011-01-05T16:19:43Z")

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> [@STi vs civic vs GTi (NSFW on post #222)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-vs-civic-vs-gti-nsfw-on-post-222/38452/90):
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> However, the Camaro is 10000000x better looking than the Mustang in their current design.

Disagree. The Mustang isn’t a particularly great looking car, but the Camaro looks like it came out of a cartoon. I laughed the first time I saw one in person and it towered over everything like a dump truck.

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-chevy-camaro-outsells-ford-mustang-ending-pony-cars-24-year-reign/256282/24 "2011-01-05T16:20:23Z")

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holy shit Ilya has never been so wrong.

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-chevy-camaro-outsells-ford-mustang-ending-pony-cars-24-year-reign/256282/25 "2011-01-05T16:21:02Z")

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Not surprising that this was in 2010 considering that the 2010 Mustang had the 4.6 and the 5.0 was announced for 2011 very early so most people put off buying a new Mustang until the bigger and more powerful motor came out for 2011.

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**Author:** ![Eatonualive](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eatonualive/32/6442_2.png) [@Eatonualive](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eatonualive)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-chevy-camaro-outsells-ford-mustang-ending-pony-cars-24-year-reign/256282/26 "2011-01-05T16:28:24Z")

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^ good point pjb

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**Author:** ![Mike3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike3/32/6350_2.png) [@Mike3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike3)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-chevy-camaro-outsells-ford-mustang-ending-pony-cars-24-year-reign/256282/27 "2011-01-05T16:34:04Z")

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> [@OFFICIAL NYSPEED HOODIE/SHIRT ORDER THREAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-hoodie-shirt-order-thread/37485/42):
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> I’ll only admit this once. I would buy a 2011 Mustang, V6 and/or V8. They’re great cars and make great power (V6) and handle very well compared to other cars in their price segment and greater. In the latest C&D issue which featured their annual Lightning Lap, the V6 lapped the track quicker than the old GT by almost a full second. The 2011 V6 ran a 3:12.5 (quicker than an STi by 1.3s) and the 2011 GT ran a 3:08.6, which beat the EVO (SE, X MR and IX MR), STi, Corvette Z51, Cayman S (non-direct injection), Camaro SS (by .9s, which is huge), Z4M, 370Z Nismo, just to name a few.
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> Source:  
> [http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q4/lightning\_lap\_2011-feature/sortable\_times\_3a\_complete\_lightning\_lap\_times\_2006\_to\_2011\_page\_8](http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q4/lightning_lap_2011-feature/sortable_times_3a_complete_lightning_lap_times_2006_to_2011_page_8)
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> I couldn’t justify buying a GM until all of their debt to the government is paid off, but that’s just my opinion.

This might be my favorite post I’ve ever seen you make! +repz

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**Author:** ![IOM\_G8\_GT\_888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f8ce5/32.png) [@IOM\_G8\_GT\_888](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IOM_G8_GT_888)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-chevy-camaro-outsells-ford-mustang-ending-pony-cars-24-year-reign/256282/28 "2011-01-05T17:15:42Z")

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I heard the ford falcon might be coming to usa

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**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-chevy-camaro-outsells-ford-mustang-ending-pony-cars-24-year-reign/256282/29 "2011-01-05T17:20:11Z")

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> [@Benni Benassi lovers only...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/benni-benassi-lovers-only/38514/5):
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> Thanks PJB.
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> I find the new camaro’s to be ugly and I would take a new mustang over one any day of the week.

> [@Bone stock c6 Z06 goes 11.177 @ 125](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bone-stock-c6-z06-goes-11-177-125/38176/81):
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> Disagree. The Mustang isn’t a particularly great looking car, but the Camaro looks like it came out of a cartoon. I laughed the first time I saw one in person and it towered over everything like a dump truck.

Too each his own.

> [@Help me find these locally](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/help-me-find-these-locally/38455/21):
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> holy shit Ilya has never been so wrong.

Wrong?

There is nothing factual in my post. It’s all opinion. Unless I’m not allowed to have an opinion?

Camaro \> Mustang in the looks department. IMO.

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**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-chevy-camaro-outsells-ford-mustang-ending-pony-cars-24-year-reign/256282/30 "2011-01-05T17:20:58Z")

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> [@Benni Benassi lovers only...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/benni-benassi-lovers-only/38514/5):
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> I find the new camaro’s to be ugly and I would take a new mustang over one any day of the week.

Absolutely.

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-chevy-camaro-outsells-ford-mustang-ending-pony-cars-24-year-reign/256282/31 "2011-01-05T17:22:25Z")

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id rock both

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**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-chevy-camaro-outsells-ford-mustang-ending-pony-cars-24-year-reign/256282/32 "2011-01-05T17:23:36Z")

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> [@WTB: ASAP 3 bar GM MAP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-asap-3-bar-gm-map/38516/2):
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> id rock both

Two chicks at the same time?

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-chevy-camaro-outsells-ford-mustang-ending-pony-cars-24-year-reign/256282/33 "2011-01-05T17:24:20Z")

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ive been there before …

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**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-chevy-camaro-outsells-ford-mustang-ending-pony-cars-24-year-reign/256282/34 "2011-01-05T17:25:35Z")

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-chevy-camaro-outsells-ford-mustang-ending-pony-cars-24-year-reign/256282/35 "2011-01-06T12:09:16Z")

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Cool, it only took you Chevy guys 24 years.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-chevy-camaro-outsells-ford-mustang-ending-pony-cars-24-year-reign/256282/36 "2011-01-06T21:34:25Z")

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Sorry SmokkkkinnnnnnSSSS :lol

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gms-chevy-camaro-outsells-ford-mustang-ending-pony-cars-24-year-reign/256282/37 "2011-01-07T06:52:33Z")

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> [@Hi, plz read me, k thanks. PS. Free hoodie.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hi-plz-read-me-k-thanks-ps-free-hoodie/38425/252):
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> ![http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mupm2BmIjtc/SekTZTk1fmI/AAAAAAAAHM4/L6MAeAIxjPI/s400/backfire+plan+failed.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/1/2/1242c60748dbae86ef2b66cab2656da6bf6e126f.jpeg)
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> Sorry SmokkkkinnnnnnSSSS :lol

whatever you say, considering I have black hair, and you have blond…not sure if you should be sharing those baby pics of yourself!

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