# Going Green **URL:** \ **Category:** Builds\ **Created:** [September 2, 2011, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284 "2011-09-02T12:52:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284/61 "2011-09-06T18:43:50Z")
> [@new 95 tsi awd project](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-95-tsi-awd-project/33999/89): > > Green is probably easier to remember than HTA3586, memory makes the name of the turbo stick, people spread it, sell more turbz. Marketing trick. thats why its known has the HTA86. ---
**Author:** ![underboosted](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/underboosted/32/6424_2.png) [@underboosted](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/underboosted)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284/62 "2011-09-06T19:05:14Z")
> [@3/20 Average Joes BYE FormulaLS1 lol](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-20-average-joes-bye-formulals1-lol/45151/27): > > So they don’t get gay names like firepower :lol ---
**Author:** ![ErnGotti](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/erngotti/32/6372_2.png) [@ErnGotti](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ErnGotti)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284/63 "2011-09-06T19:24:34Z")
> [@The Robot - Dog's best friend?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-robot-dogs-best-friend/45176/8): > > Engine codes are recycled all the time. Doesn’t mean the engines have anything in common. You’re missing one key factor: 1996 Eclipse GSX: ![http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q292/Sarkastik6969/Eclipse.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/c/8/c869ff42f23d5cf18af16449069c4bc83f63c35a.jpeg) 1996 Evolution 4: ![http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q292/Sarkastik6969/Evo.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/f/f/ff5abdfc5bda5e544b7f144c165f57659101fdf9.jpeg) Both 4G63’s of the same year. The physical difference isn’t anything crazy other than one is set up for RHD and the other for LHD. Timing & intake are on left instead of right. Doesnt mean they are completely different motors. Worst case they have a different head. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284/64 "2011-09-06T19:33:21Z")
> [@ErnGotti"](#): > > You’re missing one key factor: > > 1996 Eclipse GSX: > > ![http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q292/Sarkastik6969/Eclipse.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/c/8/c869ff42f23d5cf18af16449069c4bc83f63c35a.jpeg) > > 1996 Evolution 4: > > ![http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q292/Sarkastik6969/Evo.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/f/f/ff5abdfc5bda5e544b7f144c165f57659101fdf9.jpeg) > > Both 4G63’s of the same year. The physical difference isn’t anything crazy other than one is set up for RHD and the other for LHD. Timing & intake are on left instead of right. Doesnt mean they are completely different motors. Worst case they have a different head. wrong. they rotated the Evo engine and drivetrain because they had problems with transmission/ t-case when it was on the passenger side. ---
**Author:** ![tooltrt87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@tooltrt87](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tooltrt87)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284/65 "2011-09-06T20:08:34Z")
Ya Wasnt there massive Tq steer so they switched the sides. ---
**Author:** ![tooltrt87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@tooltrt87](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tooltrt87)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284/66 "2011-09-06T20:16:08Z")
I guess my opinion on the 4g63 being the same from a 1g DSM to an Evo 8. Same displacement, both cast iron. I’m not positive at all but because there both 2.0 and coin the same name I will just guess the stroke and bore are the same. They each have different candy But its the same pinata. There are really no facts to this opinion. ---
**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284/67 "2011-09-06T20:16:24Z")
FirePower Chartreuse is my favorite turbo. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284/68 "2011-09-06T20:21:04Z")
> [@tooltrt87"](#): > > I guess my opinion on the 4g63 being the same from a 1g DSM to an Evo 8. Same displacement, both cast iron. I’m not positive at all but because there both 2.0 and coin the same name I will just guess the stroke and bore are the same. They each have different candy But its the same pinata. There are really no facts to this opinion. yeah they are still 86x86 but thats where the similarites really end with them. ---
**Author:** ![ErnGotti](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/erngotti/32/6372_2.png) [@ErnGotti](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ErnGotti)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284/69 "2011-09-07T07:49:07Z")
> [@So custom plates...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-custom-plates/45171/22): > > FirePower Chartreuse is my favorite turbo. :rofl ---
**Author:** ![Eatonualive](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eatonualive/32/6442_2.png) [@Eatonualive](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eatonualive)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284/70 "2011-09-07T15:32:43Z")
wow…wtf are you guys bitching about?? DSM’s were made in a certain car manufacturing plant! evos ARE NOT DSM’s! the old 4g is not the same as the new one. 4b11’s arent 4g63’s annnnnd ern your car is NOT a dsm… ECLIPSE, TALON, and LASERS are DSM’s (4g63, equiped of course) they were made at the DSM plant. FWD or AWD…still a dsm. and the GVR4s technically arent dsms either bc they were made in japan land. BUT IMO the GVR4 was the original evo, bc it was made to test the drivetrain that later made its way into the EVO1. they were brought over here for two years to test the market, but americans wanted a sports car rather than a saloon. so that why we have our DSMs. got it?! ---
**Author:** ![NickAlero](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nickalero/32/6440_2.png) [@NickAlero](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NickAlero)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2011, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284/71 "2011-09-07T21:08:07Z")
I loved my saloon, and intend fully to own another. ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284/72 "2011-09-08T01:39:43Z")
Should have been watching this thread more carefully. :rofl ---
**Author:** ![Jiggsy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/35a633/32.png) [@Jiggsy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jiggsy)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284/73 "2011-09-08T08:06:43Z")
> [@ErnGotti"](#): > > . Stop posting you are making your self look dumb ---
**Author:** ![ErnGotti](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/erngotti/32/6372_2.png) [@ErnGotti](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ErnGotti)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284/74 "2011-09-08T19:44:58Z")
> [@FS/FT: 92 civic hatch turbo \*\*\*SOLD\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-ft-92-civic-hatch-turbo-sold/37029/186): > > wow…wtf are you guys bitching about?? DSM’s were made in a certain car manufacturing plant! evos ARE NOT DSM’s! the old 4g is not the same as the new one. 4b11’s arent 4g63’s annnnnd ern your car is NOT a dsm… ECLIPSE, TALON, and LASERS are DSM’s (4g63, equiped of course) they were made at the DSM plant. FWD or AWD…still a dsm. and the GVR4s technically arent dsms either bc they were made in japan land. BUT IMO the GVR4 was the original evo, bc it was made to test the drivetrain that later made its way into the EVO1. they were brought over here for two years to test the market, but americans wanted a sports car rather than a saloon. so that why we have our DSMs. got it?! This reminds me…wasn’t there another version of the 3000gt called the FDM or something like that? It looked way sicker and was super rare. I’m not even sure it was sold on these shores but I know they exist here now. ---
**Author:** ![Eatonualive](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eatonualive/32/6442_2.png) [@Eatonualive](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eatonualive)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284/75 "2011-09-08T20:19:54Z")
the 3000gt is a gto in japan, and there is a car called the FTO that came with an NA fwd v6, it was a coupe too. since we have mitsu eclipse here in the states they have the FTO there. there arent eclipses in jap land ---
**Author:** ![ErnGotti](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/erngotti/32/6372_2.png) [@ErnGotti](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ErnGotti)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284/76 "2011-09-09T17:27:10Z")
FTO. Thats it. Lol ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284/77 "2011-12-20T00:06:33Z")
Updates/plans? ---
**Author:** ![tooltrt87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@tooltrt87](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tooltrt87)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284/78 "2011-12-20T00:31:55Z")
Welp. Car was fun at then end of the year cruise. Gonna do cams hook up boost silonoid and dump some ethanol in her with the help of a wizard. See if i can blow it up in 2012 lol. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/going-green/260284.md?page=3)