# Google Announces Free Turn By Turn **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 28, 2009, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447 "2009-10-28T12:36:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447/21 "2009-10-29T05:45:54Z")
If you have data on your phone, there’s no worry. Shit, I use my phone as my internet when I’m on the road. I don’t really see the problem. ---
**Author:** ![upstateclipse](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/upstateclipse/32/7348_2.png) [@upstateclipse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/upstateclipse)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447/22 "2009-10-29T05:52:22Z")
> [@Cavi Mike](#): > > If you have data on your phone, there’s no worry. Shit, I use my phone as my internet when I’m on the road. I don’t really see the problem. I love the google maps application on my bb ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447/23 "2009-10-29T06:01:10Z")
I dont see the data being too much of an issue, if it is, google maps without turn by turn has never let me down. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447/24 "2009-10-29T06:01:19Z")
> [@Cavi Mike](#): > > If you have data on your phone, there’s no worry. Shit, I use my phone as my internet when I’m on the road. I don’t really see the problem. I take it you don’t travel anywhere rural then. ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447/25 "2009-10-29T06:02:58Z")
Yea, if youre in a 1x only area, it might be sketchy… ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447/26 "2009-10-29T06:05:47Z")
> [@Cavi Mike](#): > > If you have data on your phone, there’s no worry. Shit, I use my phone as my internet when I’m on the road. I don’t really see the problem. you are an idiot, and completely missed his point about cell coverage. however, jays, your extended data coverage really comes down to carrier. Have tmo? fogettaboutit. ATT/VZW? You’re probably good. ---
**Author:** ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447/27 "2009-10-29T06:09:06Z")
> [@Geehee](#): > > you are an idiot :bigclap: ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447/28 "2009-10-29T06:09:26Z")
> [@Willybeen](#): > > Yea, if youre in a 1x only area, it might be sketchy… Satellite view, constantly updating traffic, voice search, street view… these are all bandwidth intensive services. This is where Verizon’s superior 3g coverage is going to shine though. If it really is as good as their map shows anyway. Maybe it will kick AT&T in the ass to speed up their 3g expansion. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447/29 "2009-10-29T06:10:21Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > It’s getting real time traffic, using google street view, using google voice recognition search… all that stuff is a cloud service. AKA, it has to be downloaded. > > From the release notes: > > Ruh oh… So if I’m on a 400 mile road trip and decide to alter my route I better have good internet coverage or my GPS is now useless. And every time I start a route it has to download new maps? Cellular internet is getting better but it’s not so great that I’d want to rely on that every time. > > I’ll stick with the TomTom app on my iPhone. 1.9GB install and I have all of the US and Canada. I’ll definitely check out the google navigator when they release it for iPhone though. It sounds like it would be really nice for in town stuff where you know you’ll have good 3g coverage. even when I have my gps, I ALWAYS print out google maps directions on a long trip. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447/30 "2009-10-29T06:11:02Z")
Yea lots of place don’t have shit for data/cell coverage to bad you can’t cache maps for areas ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447/31 "2009-10-29T06:15:18Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > to bad you can’t cache maps for areas Im sure thats just a matter of time though. Its not like the hardware is lacking the ability right? ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447/32 "2009-10-29T06:25:25Z")
> [@MOBOOST4U](#): > > Im sure thats just a matter of time though. Its not like the hardware is lacking the ability right? No reason most phones couldn’t store maps… I have had this happen a couple times in Virginia and the Adirondacks where GPS has your location on a big blank map ☹ ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447/33 "2009-10-29T06:28:15Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > I have had this happen a couple times in Virginia and the Adirondacks where GPS has your location on a big blank map ☹ Well thats more of a result of a satellite triangulation error right? Im asking because I obviously dont understand tech stuff like you do. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447/34 "2009-10-29T06:33:21Z")
GPS uses triangulation via satellites to figure out where you are…then gives that input to Google Maps App and pulls the correct map for your area from the internetz. I assume the issue with downloading the map is going to be google believes in living in the cloud. ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447/35 "2009-10-29T06:40:18Z")
Yeah but so what im sying is, all GPS lose service to some extent in the mountains because there is something obstructing one of the satellites. So even if you have a normal garmin or tom tom it happens. So pretty much any device is useless right? Unless youre saying youre better off being on a map that has you on the wrong road or shows you the general area, over no map at all… but then again, if your route is cashed on this device, it shouldnt be an issue anyways? Once again, I dont understasnd this stuff too much, im just following logic from what I do understand. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447/36 "2009-10-29T06:48:55Z")
> [@MOBOOST4U](#): > > Yeah but so what im sying is, all GPS lose service to some extent in the mountains because there is something obstructing one of the satellites. So even if you have a normal garmin or tom tom it happens. So pretty much any device is useless right? > > Unless youre saying youre better off being on a map that has you on the wrong road or shows you the general area, over no map at all… but then again, if your route is cashed on this device, it shouldnt be an issue anyways? > > Once again, I dont understasnd this stuff too much, im just following logic from what I do understand. GPS rarely loses signal though, even in the mountains. There are over 20 GPS satellites in orbit and a GPS receiver only needs to find 3 for triangulation. Real world examples, I have an iPhone with Google maps and the TomTom GPS app. There are tons of times the google maps app will just show me as a blue dot on an undrawn grid. GPS knows exactly where I am on the planet, but because the google maps app can’t download the google maps tile for that GPS coordinate it shows nothing. The tomtom app on the other hand always shows me on a perfectly drawn app because it’s pulling the maps directly from the phone’s hard drive. Even if the GPS signal gets poor the app has logic to guess what road you’re on and snap the little indicator to that road so it doesn’t show you driving through a field. You probably saw my roadtrip thread about blasting through the adirondacks. Even with the mountains and the trees that pretty much covered the road my GPS never lost my position. For much of that drive I had spotty cell coverage and zero data coverage so the google GPS would have been useless. ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447/37 "2009-10-29T14:16:52Z")
Oh… Well in my experience I have been “driving through a field” several times in the Adirondacks, once with a TomTom and once with a Garmin… weird. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447/38 "2009-10-30T03:51:59Z")
> [@MOBOOST4U](#): > > Oh… > > Well in my experience I have been “driving through a field” several times in the Adirondacks, once with a TomTom and once with a Garmin… weird. Was your GPS updated with the newest maps? I had this happen on the way to VA when highways were moved over and I maps did not get updated. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/google-announces-free-turn-by-turn/75447.md?page=1)