# Got into a bit of trouble... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 29, 2007, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473 "2007-04-29T09:04:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zong/32/7580_2.png) [@Zong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zong)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/1 "2007-04-29T09:04:34Z")
I may or may not have gotten charged with disorderly conduct for retrieving a frisbee off the roof of a building at Binghamton University. I thought it was ok since there were people sitting up there earlier in the day. Binghamton police wanted to make an example out of me, and they were going to first charge me with trespassing (is this worse than disorderly conduct?) but then after talking to me for a while, decided on this. Have any of you hooligans been charged for this at another university? What’s the max fine/penalty? I really don’t feel like driving fucking 4 hours out to Vestal NY to go to court so I may try and work something out on the phone or perhaps since I go to UB and they’re both SUNY schools, I can get a hearing here. Other advice? ---
**Author:** ![redrum](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redrum/32/7398_2.png) [@redrum](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/redrum)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/2 "2007-04-29T09:24:22Z")
Probably result in community service. Anti-Task Rape Force at UB for the community service win. ---
**Author:** ![Zong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zong/32/7580_2.png) [@Zong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zong)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/3 "2007-04-29T09:32:48Z")
Any way of getting out of going all the way back to Vestal for court? ---
**Author:** ![redrum](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redrum/32/7398_2.png) [@redrum](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/redrum)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/4 "2007-04-29T09:36:37Z")
no idea… ---
**Author:** ![Schema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@Schema](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Schema)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/5 "2007-04-29T09:42:05Z")
I’d keep repeating to EVERYONE who questions you that you were just getting a frisbee off the roof. Them - “You know it’s tresspassing blah blah blah” You - “I was just getting my Frisbee” Them - " You can be charged with disorderly conduct" You - " I was just getting my Frisbee" Them - " If other students saw you up there they may try to go up as well" You - etc etc It sounds silly, but you may actually instill how retarded they are for jumping leaps and bounds over you getting your Frisbee. You may also want to go around telling everyone you know and more about it. There’s nothing more influential to change ones mind than the heat of the media. Don’t ask how I know this. ---
**Author:** ![Zong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zong/32/7580_2.png) [@Zong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zong)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/6 "2007-04-29T09:45:21Z")
Well. I tried that. The first 2 officers who talked to me were super cool and didn’t even want to give me a ticket. The arresting officer who saw me from the roof of another building had a stick up his ass. When I told him I was looking for a frisbee he called me a liar, pinned me to his police car, and searched me for weapons/drugs in front of half the student body (this happened at spring fling) If I actually had come down with the frisbee, it probably would have been better. I just couldn’t find the damn thing. edit: [quote=“strokingnova”"] did you actually spend a night in jail [/quote] jail? no. no jail. ---
**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Kramer)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/7 "2007-04-29T09:49:11Z")
did you actually spend a night in jail ---
**Author:** ![Zong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zong/32/7580_2.png) [@Zong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zong)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/8 "2007-04-29T09:50:07Z")
To add more to this story: arresting officer asked who I was staying with. I stayed with a friend off campus but I didn’t want to rat her out. He finally figured out who she was because a few of the people I was with were sitting nearby. He took her name and told her she would be going through Binghamton judicial courts since she was my “sponsor” and didn’t stop me from going on the roof. what a fucking mess ---
**Author:** ![chino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bcef8e/32.png) [@chino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/9 "2007-04-29T09:55:40Z")
dude april is not you month… you should just hibernate next year ☹ ---
**Author:** ![98SS10](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/98ss10/32/7288_2.png) [@98SS10](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/98SS10)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/10 "2007-04-29T09:55:48Z")
get up there and find that fuckin frisbee! ---
**Author:** ![Zong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zong/32/7580_2.png) [@Zong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zong)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/11 "2007-04-29T09:57:31Z")
Anyone going for law? Is trespassing worse than disorderly conduct? [quote=“chino,post:9,topic:28473"”] dude april is not you month… you should just hibernate next year ☹ [/quote] fucking. seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/12 "2007-04-29T10:05:18Z")
[quote=“Z man,post:8,topic:28473"”] To add more to this story: arresting officer asked who I was staying with. I stayed with a friend off campus but I didn’t want to rat her out. He finally figured out who she was because a few of the people I was with were sitting nearby. He took her name and told her she would be going through Binghamton judicial courts since she was my “sponsor” and didn’t stop me from going on the roof. what a fucking mess [/quote] This entire thing is a joke. The cop felt like being a asshole or was having a bad day. That is why you are in this mess. Anyway there is a way out of all of this without going down there. I have done it before. You have to write a GOOD letter to the town prosecutor. If you sound like a dumbass then they may not help you. You need to explain your case in a professional, polite, and appealing manner. Write it up and I can proof read it for you if you’d like. ---
**Author:** ![Zong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zong/32/7580_2.png) [@Zong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zong)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/13 "2007-04-29T10:08:12Z")
Cool. I might do that today. How do I address the letter to the town prosecutor? Vestal court website? The court date they set for me is this Thursday, smack dab in the middle of finals week. I gotta get it changed, etc. first so I have some more time. ---
**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/14 "2007-04-29T10:19:04Z")
Yes, you can use the address off the website. Most small towns only have 1 courthouse. Call the court on the phone and ask that they “Please postpone the court date” They will do it without a problem. ---
**Author:** ![redrum](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redrum/32/7398_2.png) [@redrum](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/redrum)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/15 "2007-04-29T11:47:50Z")
Both disorderly conduct and trespassing are violations (basically nothing). Criminal trespassing is more serious. > **S 240.20 Disorderly conduct.** > A person is guilty of disorderly conduct when, with intent to cause > public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk > thereof: > > 1. He engages in fighting or in violent, tumultuous or threatening > behavior; or > 2. He makes unreasonable noise; or > 3. In a public place, he uses abusive or obscene language, or makes an > obscene gesture; or > 4. Without lawful authority, he disturbs any lawful assembly or > meeting of persons; or > 5. He obstructs vehicular or pedestrian traffic; or > 6. He congregates with other persons in a public place and refuses to > comply with a lawful order of the police to disperse; or > 7. He creates a hazardous or physically offensive condition by any act > which serves no legitimate purpose. > **Disorderly conduct is a violation.** > > **S 140.05 Trespass.** > A person is guilty of trespass when he knowingly enters or remains > unlawfully in or upon premises. > **Trespass is a violation.** > > S 140.10 Criminal trespass in the third degree. > A person is guilty of criminal trespass in the third degree when he > knowingly enters or remains unlawfully in a building or upon real > property > (a) which is fenced or otherwise enclosed in a manner designed to > exclude intruders; or > (b) where the building is utilized as an elementary or secondary > school or a children`s overnight camp as defined in section one thousand > three hundred ninety-two of the public health law or a summer day camp > as defined in section one thousand three hundred ninety-two of the > public health law in violation of conspicuously posted rules or > regulations governing entry and use thereof; or > (c) located within a city with a population in excess of one million > and where the building or real property is utilized as an elementary or > secondary school in violation of a personally communicated request to > leave the premises from a principal, custodian or other person in charge > thereof; or > (d) located outside of a city with a population in excess of one > million and where the building or real property is utilized as an > elementary or secondary school in violation of a personally communicated > request to leave the premises from a principal, custodian, school board > member or trustee, or other person in charge thereof; or > (e) where the building is used as a public housing project in > violation of conspicuously posted rules or regulations governing entry > and use thereof; or > (f) where a building is used as a public housing project in violation > of a personally communicated request to leave the premises from a > housing police officer or other person in charge thereof; or > (g) where the property consists of a right-of-way or yard of a > railroad or rapid transit railroad which has been designated and > conspicuously posted as a no-trespass railroad zone, pursuant to section > eighty-three-b of the railroad law, by the city or county in which such > property is located. > Criminal trespass in the third degree is a class B misdemeanor. > > S 140.15 Criminal trespass in the second degree. > A person is guilty of criminal trespass in the second degree when he > knowingly enters or remains unlawfully in a dwelling. > Criminal trespass in the second degree is a class A misdemeanor. > > S 140.17 Criminal trespass in the first degree. > A person is guilty of criminal trespass in the first degree when he > knowingly enters or remains unlawfully in a building, and when, in the > course of committing such crime, he: > > 1. Possesses, or knows that another participant in the crime > possesses, an explosive or a deadly weapon; or > 2. Possesses a firearm, rifle or shotgun, as those terms are defined > in section 265.00, and also possesses or has readily accessible a > quantity of ammunition which is capable of being discharged from such > firearm, rifle or shotgun; or > 3. Knows that another participant in the crime possesses a firearm, > rifle or shotgun under circumstances described in subdivision two. > Criminal trespass in the first degree is a class D felony. ---
**Author:** ![dubbin91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dubbin91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubbin91)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/16 "2007-04-29T13:12:31Z")
Its a 200 fine for NYS. I pissed on a tree in brockport last summer, went to court, and the judge laughed because the deposition stated that the 3 people I was peeing in front of where my friends. Told me next time be the faster one to walk away. It’s nothing but a fine, but they said since it was an apperance ticket, i still had to go to court. Even had a lawer call for me to make is so Icould just send a check. I am not sure if you would, prob based on the town. I figured its better to have a fine for 200 that do community service. Time is worth more that 20 hours of service to me ---
**Author:** ![Zong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zong/32/7580_2.png) [@Zong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zong)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/17 "2007-04-29T16:13:55Z")
Violations = misdemeanors right? i.e. they go on your permanent record…? ---
**Author:** ![ryanmcell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ryanmcell/32/7510_2.png) [@ryanmcell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryanmcell)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/18 "2007-04-29T16:36:16Z")
^^ I don’t believe so. I got an open container ticket and they called it a violation. It was a $25 fine. ---
**Author:** ![dubbin91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dubbin91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubbin91)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/19 "2007-04-29T16:47:56Z")
I was told by the judge that my disorderly conduct will not show up on my record, but they are kept track like speeding tickets, the more you get, the more you pay. PS I own a tree in brocport,(at least i say i do since it cost me a lot of money) does someone live around there so they can bring it to me? ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473/20 "2007-04-29T19:19:03Z")
Depending on the court, you might be able to file your plea through the mail. Call the court house monday and see if they offer that option and simply state you are a full time student and offer a day you can go back out there when you are done with school out of respect. When you plead not guilty, you will be given a chance to write your statement. Just bear in mind that they have seen EVERY EXCUSE you can come up with to the best thing to do is to say you were acting out of hand and looking back at the situation, you realized it was a mistake and have learned from it. etc etc etc. Most courts will rather you just take a smaller sentence than coming into court. Goodluck [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/got-into-a-bit-of-trouble/28473.md?page=2)