# Gov. Paterson does not like Fat people or Indians. **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 15, 2008, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753 "2008-12-15T07:17:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/1 "2008-12-15T07:17:44Z")
_A published report says Gov. David Paterson plans to increase taxes on insurance policies, **create an “obesity tax” on non-diet sodas** , revive the state sales tax on clothing, and potentially shift more health costs to individuals after changing funding and taxing in the healthcare field._ _Errol Cockfield, spokesman for Gov. David Paterson who is scheduled to release his budget proposal Tuesday to the Legislature, won’t deny the tax proposals first reported in the Albany Times Union Sunday. He says details of the budget will be released Tuesday._ _Cockfield has said Paterson has no plans to increase income taxes._ _A $12.5 billion deficit is projected for the 2009-10 fiscal year that begins April 1st._ [http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=62826&catid=37](http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=62826&catid=37) He is also looking to tax the sale of cigarettes on the Native american reservations. This should get interesting… [http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=62827&catid=37](http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=62827&catid=37) ---
**Author:** ![Smaefer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@Smaefer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Smaefer)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/2 "2008-12-15T07:20:10Z")
They should tax fat people more… They cost this country way too much money as it is… As for the cigs I could care less, seeing it’s been 16 daays since I bought a pack… ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/3 "2008-12-15T07:21:12Z")
Taxing the fat would be sweet, but not how they are proposing. People should be weighed and measured on an anual basis and taxed for being fat pieces of shit. Everything else, meh. They will never tax reservation cigs. And lol @ Cockfield. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/4 "2008-12-15T07:23:06Z")
Indians have enough of a sweet deal with the casinos, bingo, etc. Not to mention they make 10x the profit of a normal station on gas. Tax the cigs. ---
**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/5 "2008-12-15T07:25:58Z")
Fat people will just buy more diet cola… No one skinny drinks diet cola. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/6 "2008-12-15T07:32:18Z")
wow, big surprise. Ny is in a budget crisis and want to raise taxes instead of cutting spending. sounds like business as usual :banghead::rolljerk: ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/7 "2008-12-15T07:33:40Z")
He tried to cut spending first. The republicans in the state senate shot that down. :sword: ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/8 "2008-12-15T07:36:43Z")
yeah, I’m sure the democrats were real gung-hoe about cutting taxes ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/9 "2008-12-15T07:40:23Z")
> [@Dr.Stevil](#): > > yeah, I’m sure the democrats were real gung-hoe about cutting taxes you mean cutting spending? Actually, Paterson was. The senate just said no and didn’t offer an alternative. If you eliminate the spending side, guess what you get to close a budget gap? This is what happened a month ago, that led to this. > **[Opinion | So Mr. Skelos, What’s Your Plan? (Published 2008)](https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/20/opinion/20thu2.html)** > > Gov. David Paterson’s proposed cuts are politically unpopular but absolutely essential as New York struggles with the worst economic outlook since the Great Depression. > **[Albany Fails to Reach Deal on Budget Deficit (Published 2008)](https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/nyregion/19budget.html?em)** > > Gov. David A. Paterson warned that the plan's collapse means the state could find itself unable to pay some its bills in the final months of the fiscal year. He wanted to cut Medicaid, education, and SUNY spending. He’s not your average tax and spender. ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/10 "2008-12-15T07:46:00Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > Indians have enough of a sweet deal with the casinos, bingo, etc. Not to mention they make 10x the profit of a normal station on gas. Tax the cigs. The state can recommend it but the federal government will shut it down. It has to go before the fed for that and you can’t break a treaty. I don’t know, I think I would have rather had the land that was originally mine and family not slaughtered, moved and repressed instead of casinos etc. :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/11 "2008-12-15T07:51:37Z")
> [@Carnut](#): > > The state can recommend it but the federal government will shut it down. It has to go before the fed for that and you can’t break a treaty. > > I don’t know, I think I would have rather had the land that was originally mine and family not slaughtered, moved and repressed instead of casinos etc. :gotme: X2 they’re a sovereign nation… It’s not their fault our retarded goverment doesn’t have the ability to manage money. Too fucking bad (not that I even really support them as much as I don’t support NY) ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/12 "2008-12-15T07:52:42Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > you mean cutting spending? Actually, Paterson was. The senate just said no and didn’t offer an alternative. If you eliminate the spending side, guess what you get to close a budget gap? > This is what happened a month ago, that led to this. > [http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/20/opinion/20thu2.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/20/opinion/20thu2.html) > [http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/nyregion/19budget.html?em](http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/nyregion/19budget.html?em) > > He wanted to cut Medicaid, education, and SUNY spending. He’s not your average tax and spender. eh, same result… NY is a fucked up state, and will always be. It’s not the democrats or republicans fault… it’s the peoples. Maybe someday they’ll wake up but have my doubts ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/13 "2008-12-15T07:53:27Z")
lol great, tax the natives and lets have fun with our highways again! wonder how much shit will go up in fire. this guy is now on the number one target list for natives. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/14 "2008-12-15T07:53:59Z")
If you go to canada, you have to declare and pay duty/tax on what you bought there when you get back. If they really are a soverign nation, then treat them accordingly. The Smokin Joe’s of the world have made out like bandits for long enough. They’re a soverign nation for anything that benefits them, but they’re the first to use all of our services. There are none of them alive today that had their land taken away from them, that argument is the same BS people say when they argue for slave reparations. I don’t give a shit what happened hundreds of years ago. This isn’t taking money out of your average native in a trailer’s pocket, it’s taking it out of multi-millionaires’ that only got that way by taking advantage. Fuck 'em. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/15 "2008-12-15T07:54:46Z")
this is your basic, run of the mill **just karter** tax. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/16 "2008-12-15T07:55:17Z")
that’s our governments problem for letting that happen. Not theirs. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/17 "2008-12-15T07:55:37Z")
> [@Jagermeister"](#): > > **Errol Cockfield** , spokesman for Gov. David Paterson who is scheduled to… Sounds like a porno name. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/18 "2008-12-15T07:57:45Z")
:tup: to both. As long as NY wants to continue having the most liberal Medicaid system in the country I applaud anything they do that will cut down on health care costs. Make diet soda less expensive than regular soda and more people will switch to diet. Close the BS tax loophole that lets non-natives buy cigarettes tax free from a “sovereign nation” and bring them back to our and more people will be forced to quit smoking. I’m so tired of this stupid, “they’re a sovereign nation” argument because it makes no sense. Either you’re truly your own nation, in which case non-residents of your country pay duty on all purchases they bring back to the US, or you’re part of the US and charge sales tax. You don’t get to pick and choose when you’re a sovereign nation and when you’re part of the state. And Joe, before you get all righteous about the Republicans blocking the spending cuts, realize that Sheldon Silver, Democrat speaker of the assembly, has been the biggest roadblock to Medicaid cuts for years and years in this state. And Paterson has included a 30% INCREASE in welfare in his budget: [http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=750522](http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=750522) From the article: > Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver’s office declined to comment on the current budget plan, but the Assembly has included a welfare grant increase in its budget resolution every year since 2006. It has never passed due to opposition in the Senate, which has been under Republican control for decades. Oh yeah, but we gave control of the state senate over to the Dems this year. Yay! ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/19 "2008-12-15T07:59:18Z")
He does not like me? Well I do not like blind people ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/20 "2008-12-15T07:59:58Z")
No arguments there. Sheldon Silver and Joe Bruno had a long-standing battle for NY’s biggest douche. It appears Silver wins now by default, although Bruno’s little buddy, Skelos, looks like Bruno taught him all he knew on the subject. If they really play the soverign nation card hard again, we can always offer to give them the tax free cigarettes and take away the welfare, medicaid, highway aid, subsidies, etc. that we so generously give this soverign nation. Then they can make the choice of whether to close the millionaires’ loophole or go for what actually benefits their people. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753.md?page=2)