# Gov. Paterson does not like Fat people or Indians.

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**Created:** [December 15, 2008, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753 "2008-12-15T07:17:44Z")\
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Remember that website that shows how much NYS employees make? You can sort/search by amount of pay. Maybe the natives will do a search and sharpen their arrows. “If you won’t cut spending, we will.”

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/82 "2008-12-16T20:43:09Z")

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/83 "2008-12-17T07:01:09Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> Remember that website that shows how much NYS employees make? You can sort/search by amount of pay. Maybe the natives will do a search and sharpen their arrows. “If you won’t cut spending, we will.”

If that happens I’m down for a tan and a quiver full of spending cuts. :awdrifter:

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**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/84 "2008-12-17T07:11:40Z")

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> [@nitroinsane](#):
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> Sweet now I can get rid of my scrap tires

lol

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/85 "2008-12-17T07:16:45Z")

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> [@sedlmeier101](#):
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> Here is my thought on this…
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> I don’t care if you are an indian. You live in NEW YORK STATE. So what if you were here first, we came to this country and defeated you, live with it.  
> You did not suffer, your parents did not suffer, your grandparents did not suffer, and your great grandparents did not suffer.  
> We all have to pay taxes, why is it any different for you.  
> BOO FUCKING HOO “THIS IS OUR LAND YOU HAVE NO JURISDICTION” guess what, it IS our land, it’s our fucking state, if you don’t like it :gtfo:
> 
> I know of a kid in Minnesota, who belongs to a small tribe, he gets $80k a month from the government and he is 19 years old.  
> He has every car you could ever want, a bomb ass house and everything else.
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> I’m sick of indians crying about paying a little in taxes, GOVERNOR, be smart, tax the indians, and DON’T cut public school funding.

Drive around the Indian reservations out here…There are a handful of rich people and everyone else is poor as fuck…

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**Author:** ![n20junkie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n20junkie/32/7396_2.png) [@n20junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n20junkie)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/86 "2008-12-17T07:24:38Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Drive around the Indian reservations out here…There are a handful of rich people and everyone else is poor as fuck…

See: Mexico

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/87 "2008-12-17T08:21:28Z")

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CLIFFS of the budget:  
Here are some highlights of the proposed budget:

NICKELS AND DIMES, TAXES AND FEES

Income tax: No increase in broad-based income tax rates.

Gas tax: Lift the limit on how much state tax can be charged for gasoline. The state’s tax has been limited to 8 cents per gallon.

STAR: Eliminate annual pre-Election Day checks, but maintain exemptions on tax bills.

New license plates: Issue new plates by 2010, with a fee of $25.

More taxes: Eliminate tax exemption on clothing, add tax to cable and satellite TV and radio, increase cigar tax, add sales tax to luxury items.

Bottle deposits: Require deposits on bottles of water and other non-carbonated beverages, with unclaimed refunds supporting the Environmental Protection Fund (for buying open space).

Parks fees: Reduce services and add fees for camping, cabin rentals, golf and marina use at 213 state parks and historic sites.

More taxes and fees.

Fees that affect fishing.

LESS SCHOOL AID, HIGHER TUITION AT SUNY COLLEGES

State aid cuts: Reduce state aid to schools by 3.3 percent, with specific cuts to districts ranging from 3 percent to 13 percent. Total aid would amount to $20.7 billion a year. Full story.

Longer phase-in: Extend from four years to eight years the time to phase in “foundation aid” to the neediest school districts and funding for universal pre-kindergarten.

SUNY tuition: Increase tuition at the State University of New York by 14 percent, or $620, to $4,950 per year, beginning in the spring 2009 semester.

Community colleges: Decrease state aid by an average of 10 percent, or $270, per student to a new average of $2,405.

Student loans: Establish a new loan program to provide at least $350 million in loans to 45,000 students at schools in New York.

Less aid to SUNY hospitals: Reduce the annual subsidy to SUNY hospitals in Syracuse, Brooklyn and Stony Brook to $129 million, a cut of $25 million.

HOSPITALS, HEALTH CARE TAKE A HIT

Hospital costs: Charge higher assessments to hospitals, clinics and nursing homes, with those costs most likely passed on to consumers and employers through higher health insurance premiums. Full story.

Lower reimbursements: Limit the growth of Medicaid spending to 3.8 percent instead of 12 percent by lowering reimbursements to hospitals, nursing homes and home care systems. Direct more money to primary and community-based care.

Expand Family Health Plus: Allow 19- and 20-year-olds who do not live with their parents to enroll in Family Health Plus, the state health care plan, under the same rules as if they did live with parents. Also, seek a federal waiver to allow adults at 200 percent of the federal poverty level – about $20,800 a year – to be eligible for Family Health Plus.

MORE HELP FOR THE POOR AND VETERANS

Welfare: Increase the welfare grant in 2010, the first increase since 1990. The change would provide a family of three with $387 a month by 2012, instead of the current $291 a month.

Health coverage: Make it easier for the poor and working poor to obtain government health coverage by eliminating some anti-fraud measures, including face-to-face interviews, finger printing and an asset test.

Indigent care: Increase funding for clinics and funding to food banks, pantries, soup kitchens and shelters.

Veterans outreach: Make sure returning military veterans and their families get the government services to which they are entitled, with the help of a mobile unit to travel the state.

OTHER CHANGES

State worker layoffs: Reduce the number of state employees by 3,108.

Pension change: Create a new Tier V, restoring the minimum retirement age from 55 to 62 and requiring more contributions to the pension fund.

Empire Zones: Crack down on failings of the state’s Empire Zone program, requiring companies already getting big, multiyear tax breaks to prove they have created jobs they promised.

Close and consolidate: Shut down underused facilities. List of closings and consolidations.

Sources: The Associated Press, New York state Executive Budget

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/88 "2008-12-17T12:56:12Z")

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wow I don’t think I’ve ever hated a politician this much

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/89 "2008-12-17T14:14:06Z")

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**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/90 "2008-12-18T10:39:25Z")

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so uh, IF patterson and his chronies get their way and start collecting tax from them, Snider and the rest of the Senecas should send NYS a bill for a FULL refund of all the tax money they’ve given to the state through purchases off the reservation 🙂

fair is fair

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/91 "2008-12-18T10:45:01Z")

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> [@Dr.Stevil](#):
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> so uh, IF patterson and his chronies get their way and start collecting tax from them, Snider and the rest of the Senecas should send NYS a bill for a FULL refund of all the tax money they’ve given to the state through purchases off the reservation 🙂
> 
> fair is fair

:picard:

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**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/92 "2008-12-18T10:45:27Z")

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> [@Dr.Stevil](#):
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> so uh, IF patterson and his chronies get their way and start collecting tax from them, Snider and the rest of the Senecas should send NYS a bill for a FULL refund of all the tax money they’ve given to the state through purchases off the reservation 🙂
> 
> fair is fair

How do you figure that is fair?

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/93 "2008-12-18T10:46:30Z")

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> [@fiend540](#):
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> How do you figure that is fair?

He smokes and the thought have having to pay taxes on his cigs gave him a stroke. Now he’s mildly retarded so it makes sense to him. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/94 "2008-12-18T10:48:10Z")

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> [@Dr.Stevil](#):
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> so uh, IF patterson and his chronies get their way and start collecting tax from them, Snider and the rest of the Senecas should send NYS a bill for a FULL refund of all the tax money they’ve given to the state through purchases off the reservation 🙂
> 
> fair is fair

WAT?  
They pay taxes on non-reservation purchases here, other than cars and such, just like everyone else does. Do you think a British guy gets his 9 bucks back if he buys a $100 dinner while he’s in town?

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/95 "2008-12-18T10:48:31Z")

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> [@Dr.Stevil](#):
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> so uh, IF patterson and his chronies get their way and start collecting tax from them, Snider and the rest of the Senecas should send NYS a bill for a FULL refund of all the tax money they’ve given to the state through purchases off the reservation 🙂
> 
> fair is fair

Right. Like Canadians.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/96 "2008-12-18T10:52:49Z")

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that’s my point, it’s a total double standard.

edit: it’s the fact that it’s sovereign land that things are tax free… not that they’re indian.

should they collect gas tax for non-indians as well?

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/97 "2008-12-18T10:54:06Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> He smokes and the thought have having to pay taxes on his cigs gave him a stroke. Now he’s mildly retarded so it makes sense to him. 🙂

It seems like the stupidity of the forum has increased tenfold over the past two weeks, must be winter is finally here. All we need is the ILC/IanK duo to start slanging ctsv crap and you have a typical nyspeed thread.

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**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/98 "2008-12-18T10:54:45Z")

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Yeah Patterson is a douche bag. All we can do is pray he has a heart attack.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/99 "2008-12-18T10:56:27Z")

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The CTS-V is so fucking awesome NYS doesn’t dare tax it. They may even give you a tax incentive to buy one because if everyone owned a CTS-V this state would be so god damn amazing we could operate every state program entirely on just our own sense of self satisfaction.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gov-paterson-does-not-like-fat-people-or-indians/59753/100 "2008-12-18T10:57:58Z")

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> [@JEG](#):
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> Yeah Patterson is a douche bag. All we can do is pray he has a heart attack.

Someone dig up my fucking giant pink font post. This type of shit is just too unbearable now. :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

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