# Gran Turismo 5 General Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 16, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gran-turismo-5-general-discussion-thread/254548 "2010-09-16T14:35:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 516
**Author:** ![JVG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jvg/32/6348_2.png) [@JVG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JVG)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2010, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gran-turismo-5-general-discussion-thread/254548/516 "2010-12-15T06:06:49Z")
> [@fs: 1994 Audi S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1994-audi-s4/37092/15): > > I heart my 458 lol. What did you use for Historic Cup and GT ALL STARS on Expert series? Is the ZR1 really that good? I was debating between Viper ACR and ZR1 1970 Chapparal 2J Race car and for one race I used the '67 Ferrari 330 P4 Race Car it wasnt enough for all the races the chapparal is unstoppable --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gran-turismo-5-general-discussion-thread/254548)._