# Gran Turismo 5 General Discussion Thread

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**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [September 16, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gran-turismo-5-general-discussion-thread/254548 "2010-09-16T14:35:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gran-turismo-5-general-discussion-thread/254548/765 "2011-01-10T19:31:48Z")

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> [@random complaints](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/random-complaints/38629/5):
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> Yah man… i took it to nurburgring to test it out on the professional race… I placed second which was better than before but the only real benefit to the car is the hp it has. I then put race tires on my f430 to the same race and won gold by like +10 seconds… so Im gonna have to stick to the f430.

Which F430 are you using? I bought a 458 instead and have minor things done to it, but the car doesn’t feel that great. I’m on stock suspension though, only power mods, twin disk clutch, semi flywheel, and soft slicks.

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