# $$, Groupies, and Jealous Envy aka How Does Money Change A Person?

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**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [April 17, 2009, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589 "2009-04-17T07:12:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![silverandslow1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@silverandslow1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow1)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/81 "2009-04-20T16:07:52Z")

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> [@wtb: car 5000 under](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-car-5000-under/17234/4):
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> No. They have been developing and testing a ‘bionic’ eye so to speak. It’s totally electronic but it works with your optic nerve and such to translate what the eye sees to what your brain sees… So there is a small bit of hope in the next 10 years.

My friends father is like one of the heaed people developing something that sounds like this…Last I heard a year ago tehy were able to somewhat see. Totally blind people could see like vague outlines and stuff pretty cool stuff

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**Author:** ![GTI\_Starr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gti_starr/32/6475_2.png) [@GTI\_Starr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GTI_Starr)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/82 "2009-04-20T16:47:20Z")

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I grew up with little to nothing. We were raised on welfare and my parents struggled from day one with 7 kids. That being said…

I’m the middle of 7. I was the first to have a child and the first to have a decent car and go to college. And that’s all because of Pauls parents and how they worked from nothing so they knew that we were too proud to ask for help.

Now that Paul and I both have GOOD jobs and money to play with most of the time people (mainly my siblings) assume that they can skip months of paying for cars we’ve fixed up and passed along to better THEM. Or that they can ask to borrow our stuff or that we “don’t care about gas” all the time.

MONEY CHANGES PEOPLE. doesn’t matter if you are the one who has money or if someone you know has money… It changes attitudes and behaviors. It changes things completely.

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**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/83 "2009-04-20T17:47:39Z")

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> [@WTB: 15'' 4x114.3 rims](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-15-4x114-3-rims/17258/2):
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> I grew up with little to nothing. We were raised on welfare and my parents struggled from day one with 7 kids. That being said…
> 
> I’m the middle of 7. I was the first to have a child and the first to have a decent car and go to college. And that’s all because of Pauls parents and how they worked from nothing so they knew that we were too proud to ask for help.
> 
> Now that Paul and I both have GOOD jobs and money to play with most of the time people (mainly my siblings) assume that they can skip months of paying for cars we’ve fixed up and passed along to better THEM. Or that they can ask to borrow our stuff or that we “don’t care about gas” all the time.
> 
> MONEY CHANGES PEOPLE. doesn’t matter if you are the one who has money or if someone you know has money… It changes attitudes and behaviors. It changes things completely.

Unfortunately sometimes people get complacent, or worse, just start to feel “entitled”. The sense of entitlement is really something that bugs me. You start to wonder why someone feels he/she deserves to get the hookup for free, and then the person doesn’t even make an effort to give something back or take care of what was given to him/her. Yeah, really frustrating…

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**Author:** ![GTI\_Starr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gti_starr/32/6475_2.png) [@GTI\_Starr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GTI_Starr)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/84 "2009-04-20T18:34:44Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/17252/7):
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> Unfortunately sometimes people get complacent, or worse, just start to feel “entitled”. The sense of entitlement is really something that bugs me. You start to wonder why someone feels he/she deserves to get the hookup for free, and then the person doesn’t even make an effort to give something back or take care of what was given to him/her. Yeah, really frustrating…

EXACTLY! And it’s worse when it’s friends and even worse when it’s family and they take TOTAL advantage. My bitch side usually doesn’t come out often… especially not when it’s money related and family/friends asking or owing…

I guess that saying is true Nice guys (or girls :tongue) finish last.

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/85 "2009-04-20T19:02:37Z")

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not true. girls always finish last whether they’re nice or not.

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**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/86 "2009-04-20T19:03:16Z")

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> [@kramerbuccs24"](#):
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> not true. girls always finish last whether they’re nice or not.

whoa  
whoa  
whoa

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**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/87 "2009-04-20T19:12:56Z")

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> [@kramerbuccs24"](#):
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> not true. girls always finish last whether they’re nice or not.

And this is the reason I kind of hope your post count/day drops after you hit the BX. Fordham baby go git it!!!

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/88 "2009-04-20T19:46:56Z")

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> [@wtb: car 5000 under](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-car-5000-under/17234/4):
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> No. They have been developing and testing a ‘bionic’ eye so to speak. It’s totally electronic but it works with your optic nerve and such to translate what the eye sees to what your brain sees… So there is a small bit of hope in the next 10 years.

> [@~\* Official 2006 Buffalo Bills Season Thread \*~](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2006-buffalo-bills-season-thread/17237/5):
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> damn, you can always hope.  
> You’d look like the terminator!!

> [@Do you support capital punishment?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/do-you-support-capital-punishment/17199/46):
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> Now im no optrician but I highly doubt a Bionic eye would make Cossey look like this…
> 
> ![http://osmoothie.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/terminator2.jpg](http://osmoothie.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/terminator2.jpg)

:lmao :bowdown

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**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/89 "2009-04-20T23:45:15Z")

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> [@WTB: 240SX S13 Radiator shroud](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-240sx-s13-radiator-shroud/17213/8):
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> A lot of people who try to generate the $$ and enjoy success will just keep at it, and keep pushing for more.

I always enjoy reading your posts…

One thing I wanted to throw out there was with what you said above…

Is it always like that ? I mean I tend to think of money like I think about food / water / oxygen…

I think of it like this…

When your starving for food, all you want to do is get some… thats pretty much the main thing on your mind…

Same with air… someone is holding you underwater damn you really need some air…

but what about when we are full , or have plenty of air… we never think about it then… breathing air is something i hardly ever think about but something i REALLY need hahaa

obviously money isnt that intense of a need but I think of it the same way

If your working paycheck to paycheck right… and your are absolutely just dying to pay the rent and have a few bucks left over for a gallon of gas… how the hell is that gonna make you feel ? Your whole life is all about making money, because if u slip for one minute then you get kicked out your apt or foreclosure… dont have enogh gas to get to work…

So thinking about it in that way, I think maybe in some situations its not always how you say it is above… you dont get “obsessed”

But then again it all depends on “how you get it”

If your trading your hours for the dollars, if you have a boss, if your doing overtime, and you want to make more and more and more…then that is where I feel like it falls into the situation you said above…

But if your getting money by other means, commonly investing… or having a business that works for you… then perhaps its a bit different?

The kids of sam walton, I doubt they are stressed the fuck out every day with money the only thing on their mind… I think the fact that they have something setup for the long term, that generates money for them really relieves alot of stress, and they only make more money… as time moves on…

> [@Official: Bucky Man Hunt Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-bucky-man-hunt-thread/17168/177):
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> I think a few people in this thread were mainly just concerned that you were going to piss you money away. I know I semi was. Yeah we’re not friends and we never talk but I have known you for years now and have seen a number of kids rip through a lump some of money buy all these things and then be back to broke with no way to up keep the things they bought.
> 
> Your friends with all the people I know to be good people. Good people generally associate with good people. Its like there are certain names you automatically attach to this area and cars cause they have been doing it forever. Anyone would hate to see another one of those “car jedi” fall. So I think on my behalf at least I was just concerned for well being. I have never been friends with someone just cause the car they drive, but i have met people because of the car they drive.

thats how I feel , or felt, after cossey posted I feel like hes just fine and the same shit you said above… I dont know cossey personally, yea we met a few times and I think thanks to my crazy ways he probably doesnt take me seriously which is fine i respect that. but i know hes boys with vlad and others i know who are really really good genuine people… so i had a common concern for cossey which wasnt on purpose or for any other reason

I have a friend who grew up with me in colonie, kid was broke as fuckkkk for his whole life. I mean really bad, I remember times he slept outside in colonie, then came to school with grass and shit in his clothes hahaa, good kid , really good heart, but really shitty brought up. Anyways the fuckin idiot got bit by a dog comin home from school and long story short lawsuit ended in him getting over 100 grand…

He got that shit and blew it out his fucking ass in one year… thats it, thats the story… I was with him for alot of it he spent alot of money on his friends including me, which I thought was nice and I would do the same any day, but within reason, 100-150 grand is not alot of money especially when u have no income at all…and spending a grand a day for a month

So because of that I had some worry for cossey but its nothin im sure hes fine

> [@Official: Bucky Man Hunt Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-bucky-man-hunt-thread/17168/184):
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> after all the useless trash, and shit on here, this is a great post. :thumbup
> 
> that being said, i’m a pretty damn humble guy, but if you live my life you kinda gotta be. i have 2 beat ass bmw’s, none of which are fast, or anything special. i could make them anything and everything i wanted with my own two hands, but don’t have the $ to do so… sometimes it gets frustrating just watching everybody around you mod their cars, and just splurge. i wish i could do that still, but i’ve come to terms. it took me months just to be able to afford to mount some rims on my car, and my other is sitting with rust, dents, and a shattered windshield. it wasn’t even on the road last year because i simply couldn’t afford it. this state is a fucking wasteland when it comes to raising a child, and my kids mother is too immature, and irresposible to make things any easirer. the sooner i accept things and move on, the better, since i’ll be paying child support until in in my 40’s. again, not saying it wasn’t my fault, but it happened. i was the sole provider for her, and her mother, only to be walked out on. now no matter where i work, or what i do, i have to make enough to satisfy the system, and survive for myself, (which this state could give a rats ass about.) i do know there are a handful of people on here in the same position, but most probably have multiple forms of income. i know no matter how much i make, they will just take more of my $ based on that. its like an uphill battle, that i just need to face. :wierd

pete your a really good guy who dont run away from shit, i really respect that and you keep it real, yea you got some HORRIBLE fucking road rage that I think u need to get some counciling for… but other than that your really chill and the post above was really… enlighting lol… i think u’ll be fine man just keep an open mind and being positive really does matter

> [@Is it just me or does wheel selection for the Ford Focus suck?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-it-just-me-or-does-wheel-selection-for-the-ford-focus-suck/17184/8):
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> We should see if we can get a shift518 group buy discount some where :rofl

I’m not kidding, i need a laser brazilian , so let me in on this…

> [@Official: Bucky Man Hunt Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-bucky-man-hunt-thread/17168/151):
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> You are a good friend too and you know it. I think me and you could be totally out of control, anywhere at any moment LOL.

haha its crazy how fuckin nuts you are, i really didnt think when I knew you only from the forums that you would even be 10% as nuts as me… im really glad we know each other tho , **some people you meet you just know are good people** , you are def one of them, along with jammer vlad shady etc

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**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/90 "2009-04-21T00:16:03Z")

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> [@Yet another stupid bike rider. Do they think they are cool?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yet-another-stupid-bike-rider-do-they-think-they-are-cool/17201/15):
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> EVERYONE is a financial advisor when it’s not their money.

not saying that I know from experience this to be true

but shit I can only imagine !!

Its like anything, everyone can tell u what to do when its not their problem or situation,

talk is so cheap its free… free advice should be takin as light as its price

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/91 "2009-04-21T05:19:28Z")

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What exactly prompts you to write these articles, Singh :rofl

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/92 "2009-04-21T05:32:27Z")

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I consistantly learn shit from Singh. Seriously. I think this is part of my training. Like confuscious, he teaches in snippets.

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**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/93 "2009-04-21T06:39:05Z")

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> [@Official: Bucky Man Hunt Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-bucky-man-hunt-thread/17168/184):
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> after all the useless trash, and shit on here, this is a great post. :thumbup
> 
> i think about your situation a lot bro, and it bothers me, i won’t lie. i know you would give everything back, just to be able to have everything be normal again. you are a nice guy, and did nothing to deserve to lose someting so precious. i know money is certainly not everything, but it can help “heal a wound,” (no pun intended) in the sense that at least you can do/ buy things to help take your mind off of your misfortune. i hope you can live a better life, and use it all to your advantage. i know that everybody is like your best friend now, and it must be fucking annoying. i knew who you were for a long time, (i used to hang out with justin many years back,) but didn’t really get to chill/ meet you until i met vlad. you are a good friend. i greatly appreciate all the times you’ve hooked me up and such. it means a lot to me. i know you have stacks, and pretty much whatever you need, but please don’t hesitate to lmk if you need a hand with anything. i’m nice to people that deserve it. i hope you know that i would still be your friend whether you had 20 million or you were broke as a joke living on welfare. you simply cannot put a price on a true friendship these days. there aren’t many people that are even worth my time.
> 
> that being said, i’m a pretty damn humble guy, but if you live my life you kinda gotta be. i have 2 beat ass bmw’s, none of which are fast, or anything special. i could make them anything and everything i wanted with my own two hands, but don’t have the $ to do so… sometimes it gets frustrating just watching everybody around you mod their cars, and just splurge. i wish i could do that still, but i’ve come to terms. it took me months just to be able to afford to mount some rims on my car, and my other is sitting with rust, dents, and a shattered windshield. it wasn’t even on the road last year because i simply couldn’t afford it. this state is a fucking wasteland when it comes to raising a child, and my kids mother is too immature, and irresposible to make things any easirer. the sooner i accept things and move on, the better, since i’ll be paying child support until in in my 40’s. again, not saying it wasn’t my fault, but it happened. i was the sole provider for her, and her mother, only to be walked out on. now no matter where i work, or what i do, i have to make enough to satisfy the system, and survive for myself, (which this state could give a rats ass about.) i do know there are a handful of people on here in the same position, but most probably have multiple forms of income. i know no matter how much i make, they will just take more of my $ based on that. its like an uphill battle, that i just need to face. :wierd

Hey man good fucking post! How you been anyway? I need to come down to the shop and chill again. twas a good time. :thumbup

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**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/94 "2009-04-22T01:16:50Z")

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> [@bennyfizzle"](#):
>
> What exactly prompts you to write these articles, Singh :rofl

:rofl dude i dont fucking know, if anyone even reads that bullshit, i do have good intentions, and im not half the idiot i appear to be on these forums

> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/17285/4):
>
> I consistantly learn shit from Singh. Seriously. I think this is part of my training. Like confuscious, he teaches in snippets.

haha what are u learning from me, I need to give up I suck at explaining myself and thoughts online hahaha

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/95 "2009-04-22T05:53:17Z")

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> [@GOOOOO BUFFALO BANANA SLUGS!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gooooo-buffalo-banana-slugs/17284/52):
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> :rofl dude i dont fucking know, if anyone even reads that bullshit, i do have good intentions, and im not half the idiot i appear to be on these forums

Yea, this guy goes out of his way to park next to someone ALLL THE WAY on the otherside of the mall.

… on his bike.

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**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/96 "2009-04-22T06:05:38Z")

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> [@FS: 1985 Chevy truck 3/4 350 rebuilt! $1500](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1985-chevy-truck-3-4-350-rebuilt-1500/17208/15):
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> Yea, this guy goes out of his way to park next to someone ALLL THE WAY on the otherside of the mall.
> 
> … on his bike.

hey im a groupie, i saw a black supra and had my new phone handy… what can i say :excited

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**Author:** ![Oppie1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/oppie1/32/6374_2.png) [@Oppie1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oppie1)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/97 "2009-04-24T11:43:16Z")

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Cossey, I remember when this first happened to you. I remember you said you were thinking about a sewing. Glad everything work out for you! Took a long ass time, damn!  
Enjoy the toys…

Would money change me? Hell yea it would. For the better, but I would be even more gaurded than I am now.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/98 "2009-04-25T19:36:30Z")

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Money is funny.

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**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/groupies-and-jealous-envy-aka-how-does-money-change-a-person/243589/99 "2009-04-25T23:08:54Z")

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> [@FS: 2003 Mitsubishi Evolution](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2003-mitsubishi-evolution/3297/294):
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> Cossey, I remember when this first happened to you. I remember you said you were thinking about a sewing. Glad everything work out for you! Took a long ass time, damn!  
> Enjoy the toys…
> 
> Would money change me? Hell yea it would. For the better, but I would be even more gaurded than I am now.

most lawsuits are 5 years or more i think

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