# GT-R does 7:29 around nurburgring. **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [May 22, 2008, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gt-r-does-7-29-around-nurburgring/197592 "2008-05-22T04:42:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gt-r-does-7-29-around-nurburgring/197592/61 "2008-07-11T06:20:14Z")
vid [http://videos.streetfire.net/video/ZR1-Nurburgring-Official\_170754.htm?Ref=Newsletter&emc=el&m=188198&l=10&v=988b107898](http://videos.streetfire.net/video/ZR1-Nurburgring-Official_170754.htm?Ref=Newsletter&emc=el&m=188198&l=10&v=988b107898) ---
**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gt-r-does-7-29-around-nurburgring/197592/62 "2008-07-11T08:17:44Z")
175 on the back straight… yummy! ---
**Author:** ![bgblockelcamino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bgblockelcamino/32/5997_2.png) [@bgblockelcamino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bgblockelcamino)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gt-r-does-7-29-around-nurburgring/197592/63 "2008-07-11T08:51:04Z")
wow that track is insane. ---
**Author:** ![tjZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gt-r-does-7-29-around-nurburgring/197592/64 "2008-07-11T11:41:07Z")
> [@OFFICIAL '07-'08 Toronto Maple Leafs Season Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-07-08-toronto-maple-leafs-season-thread/36506/83): > > 175 on the back straight… yummy! Into a huge headwind, according to GM. And after reviewing the vid, there a several times he is giving up major time. Now, before I get bashed I’m not saying I could do any better. That is such an insane venue and requires giant, brass balls. But he’s too hot in a few sections which puts him a good bit off-line for a turn or two (for example, at ~6:11 he’s frustrated enough w/ his drift to take a hand off the wheel for a bit), and maybe a bit too slow in others. None-the-less it was still an amazing job of driving, especially for a GM engineer as opposed to a pro. But there is NO doubt in my mind a pro with hundreds of or thousands of laps at the 'ring could shave a few seconds off. What a car! And oh nOes… GTR’s breaking!!!11!!!one! [http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=23273](http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=23273) -TJ ---
**Author:** ![Habib88](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/habib88/32/3341_2.png) [@Habib88](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Habib88)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gt-r-does-7-29-around-nurburgring/197592/65 "2008-07-11T13:43:57Z")
I was just thinking to myself wouldn’t it be great if there was a sync’d up video between the GTR and ZR1 laps… > **[VIDEO: Garage419 split-screens the ZR-1 and GT-R 'Ring laps](https://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/11/video-garage419-split-screens-the-zr-1-and-gt-r-ring-laps/)** > > The Nurburgring is the most famous and grueling track on the planet. In the past, the 'Ring didn't get much attention aside from track day hoons and the occasional manufacturer test, but lately the big test has been to get around the circuit with the... I mentioned this over on RPA too, but at 1:25-1:28 he’s driving though a corner at 118mph with one hand. Mutherfuckinghugeballs. I know the V-spec of the GTR will start the pissing match all over again. But I have to agree the Vette looks like it leaves some time out there. There are a few turns where he is nowhere near the apex. ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gt-r-does-7-29-around-nurburgring/197592/66 "2008-07-12T07:05:57Z")
> [@noob here = Þ](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/noob-here-th/37104/4): > > I was just thinking to myself wouldn’t it be great if there was a sync’d up video between the GTR and ZR1 laps… > > [VIDEO: Garage419 split-screens the ZR-1 and GT-R 'Ring laps - Autoblog](http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/11/video-garage419-split-screens-the-zr-1-and-gt-r-ring-laps/) > > I mentioned this over on RPA too, but at 1:25-1:28 he’s driving though a corner at 118mph with one hand. Mutherfuckinghugeballs. I know the V-spec of the GTR will start the pissing match all over again. But I have to agree the Vette looks like it leaves some time out there. There are a few turns where he is nowhere near the apex. Sweet video…both cars are amazing, but I agree you can tell the ZR1 left a little time out there. I am sure it can rip into the low 7:20’s. ---
**Author:** ![Habib88](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/habib88/32/3341_2.png) [@Habib88](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Habib88)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gt-r-does-7-29-around-nurburgring/197592/67 "2008-08-28T05:05:08Z")
So Dodge got the bright idea to run the new Viper ACR around the ring. Mind you the viper comes from the factory with a adjustable suspenion, pilot cup race tires, and wings that actually make downforce. So if it really qualifies as a street car is debateable. But the results are impressive. 7:22 > **[2009 Dodge Viper ACR on the Nurburgring - Features - Motor Trend Video](http://www.motortrend.com/news/2009-dodge-viper-acr-nurburgring-record-video/)** > > The 2009 Dodge Viper ACR runs a record-breaking 7:22 lap around the Nurburgring in this video brought to you by the automotive experts at Motor Trend. ---
**Author:** ![ssdragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gt-r-does-7-29-around-nurburgring/197592/68 "2008-08-28T06:04:24Z")
too bad they killed the viper after this year… ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gt-r-does-7-29-around-nurburgring/197592/69 "2008-08-28T06:07:26Z")
I would count it. It is a $12K option…I wonder how many will be produced. ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gt-r-does-7-29-around-nurburgring/197592/70 "2008-08-28T15:06:51Z")
On the Z06 owners vid it says they are both stock but the GTR owner says the Z has a tune and filter? ![http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/ScottsGTR/IMG_2377.jpg](http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/ScottsGTR/IMG_2377.jpg) Heres what the GTR owner had to say. Hey all So, the raging debate is, will the GTR stand up to the Z06 in the real world, stock for stock, equal drivers, stock tires. Well I can tell you it can. I went out for a 6th Gear track day at NHMS, a tight 1.57 mile 12 turn road course, the perfect storm for the Z06 with all the V8 low end grunt. FOr a 4000 pound car, no matter if it has AWD or not, a tight technical course is a real equalizer. I was nervous. I did not want to be the first GTR to get its ass handed it it in the real world and on tape. My good friend John (Yellow Z) and Eric (bronze Z) came up to see this thing for real. The NHMS is a road-oval. An oval NASCAR with a road course built into the infield. I hate these. They are bumpy, beat the car, and with all the tight stuff at this place kills the tires. I honestly thought the Z06 would dominate me, as it is significantly lighter has 505 HP, and can get it down to the ground with huge tires. Well, I can tell you, that the GTR keeps up just fine. We put the GTR in-between the 2 Z’s and we all were trading spots all day. i had a fantastic time once I figured out how to get this car to keep up. And… The car above 100, does not get pulled. As a matter of fact it pulls on the Z often. Advantage Z06 - Tight stuff, slower speed corners were i push into the corner and cant get on the throttle. On turn 3 on the uphill the Z can turn in faster, thus eating me on the uphill. Advantage GTR - The last chicane, were is a high speed sweeper, the GTR can put the power down and pulls the Z on the front strait. Coming out of the bowl turn if I am in 3rd, I can pull the Z coming out of the bowl. It took me a while to figure out i had to shift. I felt I could out brake the Z as well even though I was heavier. Guys, the GTR is a fine track car, that keeps right up with anything on the track. Eric john and I were the fastest cars on street tires at this event, and EVERYONE was watching. The resounding consensus is that the GTR and Z06 are very much even, and would take a more advanced driver to get more out of both platforms. I took video, however a lot of the runs with John were not recorded as I ran out of room on my stick. Its too bad as I passed him twice, and he passed me once. We both breathed a sigh of relief that we would not be the once all over the net getting the other once rear end kicked. When I ran wit Eric, I had a Z06 instructor in the car (Gary Hoffamn from Harbar) and was very tentative, but got back on pace and passed Eric at the end. I felt bad, the one C5 Z out with use was commenting that he felt like he was just getting in our way. The conclusion is the cars are evenly matched. The GTR is not the modern day Delorian like the vette guys seem to be hoping. After a day of 5 hours of track time I drove home, brakes fine, minimal 2mm of bad wear. Rotors were fine, tranny needs a flush (My choice) and another oil change (my choice) but that is it. From the Z06 [Viddler.com - John And Scott 2 - Uploaded by MAZO6](http://www.viddler.com/explore/MAZO6/videos/2/) From GTR (this one is like 20+mins) [Viddler.com - NHMS 8/21/08 - Uploaded by ScottsGTR](http://www.viddler.com/explore/ScottsGTR/videos/3/) ---
**Author:** ![ssdragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gt-r-does-7-29-around-nurburgring/197592/71 "2008-08-29T04:19:51Z")
Just waiting to see the reliability of the GTR. Heard some bad things about the transmission. ---
**Author:** ![tjZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gt-r-does-7-29-around-nurburgring/197592/72 "2008-09-01T16:12:25Z")
> [@OFFICIAL NYSPEED HOODIE/SHIRT ORDER THREAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-nyspeed-hoodie-shirt-order-thread/37485/22): > > So Dodge got the bright idea to run the new Viper ACR around the ring. Mind you the viper comes from the factory with a adjustable suspenion, pilot cup race tires, and wings that actually make downforce. So if it really qualifies as a street car is debateable. But the results are impressive. > > 7:22 > [http://www.motortrend.com/av/features/112\_0811\_2009\_dodge\_viper\_acr\_nurburgring\_record\_video/index.html](http://www.motortrend.com/av/features/112_0811_2009_dodge_viper_acr_nurburgring_record_video/index.html) I give Dodge mad credit for turning the Viper into such a legit track car. Having driven several I can tell you most of them are a shit show. But the new ACR is amazing. Every time I see another article about the ACR it just makes me wish GM could do something like that w/ the Z. Leave the motor alone, take 100-200lbs out, give it REAL downforce, put it on coilovers, put some good pads in it, and but some Cup Sports on it and I’d be ALL over it. -TJ ---
**Author:** ![tjZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2008, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gt-r-does-7-29-around-nurburgring/197592/73 "2008-09-01T16:14:11Z")
> [@FS: 1996 Blazer LS 4x4 - $3000](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1996-blazer-ls-4x4-3000/37406/13): > > On the Z06 owners vid it says they are both stock but the GTR owner says the Z has a tune and filter? > > ![http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/ScottsGTR/IMG_2377.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/a/b/ab4f8e897cdfa6d0c38e2e39637796a6f9c87aa7.jpeg) > > Heres what the GTR owner had to say. > Hey all > > So, the raging debate is, will the GTR stand up to the Z06 in the real world, stock for stock, equal drivers, stock tires. Well I can tell you it can. I went out for a 6th Gear track day at NHMS, a tight 1.57 mile 12 turn road course, the perfect storm for the Z06 with all the V8 low end grunt. FOr a 4000 pound car, no matter if it has AWD or not, a tight technical course is a real equalizer. I was nervous. I did not want to be the first GTR to get its ass handed it it in the real world and on tape. My good friend John (Yellow Z) and Eric (bronze Z) came up to see this thing for real. > > The NHMS is a road-oval. An oval NASCAR with a road course built into the infield. I hate these. They are bumpy, beat the car, and with all the tight stuff at this place kills the tires. I honestly thought the Z06 would dominate me, as it is significantly lighter has 505 HP, and can get it down to the ground with huge tires. > > Well, I can tell you, that the GTR keeps up just fine. We put the GTR in-between the 2 Z’s and we all were trading spots all day. i had a fantastic time once I figured out how to get this car to keep up. And… The car above 100, does not get pulled. As a matter of fact it pulls on the Z often. > > Advantage Z06 - Tight stuff, slower speed corners were i push into the corner and cant get on the throttle. On turn 3 on the uphill the Z can turn in faster, thus eating me on the uphill. > > Advantage GTR - The last chicane, were is a high speed sweeper, the GTR can put the power down and pulls the Z on the front strait. Coming out of the bowl turn if I am in 3rd, I can pull the Z coming out of the bowl. It took me a while to figure out i had to shift. I felt I could out brake the Z as well even though I was heavier. > > Guys, the GTR is a fine track car, that keeps right up with anything on the track. Eric john and I were the fastest cars on street tires at this event, and EVERYONE was watching. The resounding consensus is that the GTR and Z06 are very much even, and would take a more advanced driver to get more out of both platforms. > > I took video, however a lot of the runs with John were not recorded as I ran out of room on my stick. Its too bad as I passed him twice, and he passed me once. We both breathed a sigh of relief that we would not be the once all over the net getting the other once rear end kicked. When I ran wit Eric, I had a Z06 instructor in the car (Gary Hoffamn from Harbar) and was very tentative, but got back on pace and passed Eric at the end. I felt bad, the one C5 Z out with use was commenting that he felt like he was just getting in our way. > > The conclusion is the cars are evenly matched. The GTR is not the modern day Delorian like the vette guys seem to be hoping. After a day of 5 hours of track time I drove home, brakes fine, minimal 2mm of bad wear. Rotors were fine, tranny needs a flush (My choice) and another oil change (my choice) but that is it. > > From the Z06 > [Viddler.com - John And Scott 2 - Uploaded by MAZO6](http://www.viddler.com/explore/MAZO6/videos/2/) > From GTR (this one is like 20+mins) > [Viddler.com - NHMS 8/21/08 - Uploaded by ScottsGTR](http://www.viddler.com/explore/ScottsGTR/videos/3/) Meh, interesting read but track day stuff is ALL about the driver. -TJ ---
**Author:** ![Habib88](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/habib88/32/3341_2.png) [@Habib88](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Habib88)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2008, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gt-r-does-7-29-around-nurburgring/197592/74 "2008-09-01T20:37:27Z")
> [@What does your desktop look like? (Now NSFW)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-your-desktop-look-like-now-nsfw/6316/292): > > I give Dodge mad credit for turning the Viper into such a legit track car. Having driven several I can tell you most of them are a shit show. But the new ACR is amazing. > > Every time I see another article about the ACR it just makes me wish GM could do something like that w/ the Z. Leave the motor alone, take 100-200lbs out, give it REAL downforce, put it on coilovers, put some good pads in it, and but some Cup Sports on it and I’d be ALL over it. > > -TJ There was a article a few years ago where they pinned a Porsche cup 911 factory racer, and Viper competition coupe, and a few other manufacture based race cars against each other. The Viper held its ground and then some against anything they threw at it. I’m sure back then that might have planted the seed to do the ACR we have now. I’m sure the GTR or ZR1 would do unholy things also with a real wing and actual tires (cup sports would work). But the truth is unless either one of them man up and do such a thing I don’t see the Viper’s time falling anytime soon. I hope GM isn’t done playing with the ZR1, I heard the motor in it can go a little further so that would be a start. Toss a wing & tires on and go after the Viper. ❌ Speaking of the Ring. Did anyone read on autoblog about Lexus basically pulling the plug on their LF-A supercar? Rumor was they were having trouble trying to get their car to keep pace with the times the GTR & ZR1 were throwing out. So they are just going to use the car for development purposes rather than production. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gt-r-does-7-29-around-nurburgring/197592.md?page=3)