# GTI\> b5 s4

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gti-b5-s4/51564
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [July 15, 2008, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gti-b5-s4/51564 "2008-07-15T23:50:57Z")
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### Author: ![scsilver2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@scsilver2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/scsilver2)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2008, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gti-b5-s4/51564/27 "2008-07-16T11:54:36Z")

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> [@cky89](#):
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> Stage 1 is stock  
> Stage 2 is the APR flash  
> Stage 3 is where you need a fuel pump, exhaust, intake ect. it’s also a different turbo.

What are you talking about? Stage one is simple reflash, stage 2 requires intake, turbo back exhaust including downpipe, and 4 bar FPR if we are talking about your GTI. Stage 3 is BIG TURBO software which depending on brand- can be tuned to specific setups (atleast REVO can) so don’t quote that.

So in conclusion- you are STAGE 1 with A3 pipe and no intake or exhaust? I would say you are still probably in the high 14’s low 15’s range. What should a B5 S4 be capable of?

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