# GTI MKVI APR Stage 1 Question **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [July 22, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gti-mkvi-apr-stage-1-question/274804 "2017-07-22T21:37:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Stalzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Stalzie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Stalzie)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gti-mkvi-apr-stage-1-question/274804/1 "2017-07-22T21:37:04Z")
Hi all, I have an GTI MKVI with an APR stage 1. I recently purchased an catback and intake. If I install, can I still run on the standard Stage 1 tune, or do I need to upgrade to the APR stage 1 with Intake tune? I realize I may not get the full performance if I don’t upgrade, but I just want to make sure I won’t be getting fault codes or anything. Eventually I’ll get a downpipe for Stage 2, but at the moment just excited to install the parts I have. Thanks for your feedback in advance. Dan ---
**Author:** ![kaczorj](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kaczorj/32/6211_2.png) [@kaczorj](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kaczorj)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gti-mkvi-apr-stage-1-question/274804/2 "2017-07-23T19:57:59Z")
You should be fine with just the stage 1 tune, there won’t be any negative side effects. I ran an APR intake on no tune for quite a long time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gti-mkvi-apr-stage-1-question/274804/3 "2017-07-23T19:59:27Z")
You’re fine, cat back does nothing but sound. Intake you could map but without a down pipe you’re not gaining much anyways. ---
**Author:** ![maxwell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maxwell/32/6524_2.png) [@maxwell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maxwell)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gti-mkvi-apr-stage-1-question/274804/4 "2017-07-24T07:54:22Z")
Downpipe is the best thing you can replace on these cars. ---
**Author:** ![Deathproof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@Deathproof](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Deathproof)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gti-mkvi-apr-stage-1-question/274804/5 "2017-07-25T11:11:15Z")
I have one, intake and cat back is fine no tune. Even downpipe is ok. I currently have intake, downpipe, and stage 1. Will go stage 2 soon. The computers adapt well in these. ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gti-mkvi-apr-stage-1-question/274804/6 "2017-07-25T11:42:09Z")
> [@maxwell](#): > > Downpipe is the best thing you can replace on these cars. Yes/no, it adds a lot of torque and will start to really push the limits of the stock clutch. X… ---
**Author:** ![maxwell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maxwell/32/6524_2.png) [@maxwell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maxwell)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2017, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gti-mkvi-apr-stage-1-question/274804/7 "2017-07-25T14:18:32Z")
> [@Xander](#): > > Yes/no, it adds a lot of torque and will start to really push the limits of the stock clutch. > > X… True. Yes, it will take out the stock clutch pretty quick. Just ask Gennaro, ha. I guess I should have clarified. From a cost v. perf persective… DP and tune over anything else. Intake and exhaust would be last on my list. ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gti-mkvi-apr-stage-1-question/274804/8 "2017-07-26T07:13:11Z")
> [@maxwell](#): > > True. Yes, it will take out the stock clutch pretty quick. Just ask Gennaro, ha. I guess I should have clarified. From a cost v. perf persective… DP and tune over anything else. Intake and exhaust would be last on my list. Agreed. I did the Unitronic tune on my CC and nothing else and it seems perfect. They seem to keep the boost down in the lower RPM to keep the torque not crazy high. My clutch on that car is fine, and I’ve had the tune for about 20K miles (55k miles total on the car) and it seems to pull pretty nice. The car fights for traction under 30mph, which is about enough to make the car entertaining. X…