# Guess Who is coming back?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573>\
**Category:** SON240sx Off Topic\
**Created:** [December 14, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573 "2008-12-14T15:37:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![TorontoGT-R33](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torontogt-r33/32/5500_2.png) [@TorontoGT-R33](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TorontoGT-R33)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/1 "2008-12-14T15:37:14Z")

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![http://popularhotrodding.com/features/0510phr_spread_z.jpg](http://popularhotrodding.com/features/0510phr_spread_z.jpg)

That’s right the Buick Grand National will be coming back in 2010!

I’m searching for more details.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/2 "2008-12-14T15:40:32Z")

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that looks retarded.

it’s either boxy like the orig. or leave it on the drawing board.

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**Author:** ![kollo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kollo/32/5661_2.png) [@kollo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kollo)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/3 "2008-12-14T15:44:41Z")

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sorta in a way loks like a beamer i like it

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**Author:** ![imported\_Jared](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_jared/32/5660_2.png) [@imported\_Jared](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_Jared)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/4 "2008-12-14T15:56:36Z")

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Is this another 2010 s16 silvia or 2011 240sx thread? Or is this thing legit?

And ya it fails.

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**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/5 "2008-12-14T16:12:17Z")

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disgusting. gm sucks shit for designing vehicles lately.

chrysler = win for design

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**Author:** ![KoukiS14](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/koukis14/32/5522_2.png) [@KoukiS14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KoukiS14)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/6 "2008-12-14T16:29:12Z")

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Sorry but that looks like someone did their own 3D design not GM.

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**Author:** ![sidewayz240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@sidewayz240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sidewayz240)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/7 "2008-12-14T16:57:56Z")

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Bleh, looks stupid. It needs to have a retro-boxy look or fail.

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**Author:** ![spd-dmn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spd-dmn/32/5513_2.png) [@spd-dmn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spd-dmn)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/8 "2008-12-14T17:57:01Z")

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hahah 2010… ooookay

The Buick nameplate will be lucky to still be alive 3 months from now

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**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/9 "2008-12-14T18:32:36Z")

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Booo… when I saw your name, I thought that YOU were coming back to Canada. -1 to thread.

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**Author:** ![Mr.K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mr.k/32/5670_2.png) [@Mr.K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr.K)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/10 "2008-12-14T20:57:47Z")

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That image is about a year old, and was just a concept art thing someone did, not an actual GM image =/.

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**Author:** ![Pants](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pants/32/5590_2.png) [@Pants](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pants)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/11 "2008-12-14T21:05:06Z")

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looks like a rx8

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**Author:** ![Jordan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jordan/32/5605_2.png) [@Jordan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jordan)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 4:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/12 "2008-12-15T04:36:43Z")

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I like it! Good to see something a little different instead of another retro model. I would like to see more details too.

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**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/13 "2008-12-15T10:40:22Z")

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When will domestic car markers learn?

Bringing back old shit doesn’t mean you’ll resurrect the domestic market.

Losers

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**Author:** ![roast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/roast/32/5498_2.png) [@roast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/roast)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/14 "2008-12-15T11:07:09Z")

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> [@LS7-R](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ls7-r/19515/33):
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> When will domestic car markers learn?
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> Bringing back old shit doesn’t mean you’ll resurrect the domestic market.
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> Losers

It’s true, the real problem is the unfair import laws saturating the market with non-domestic cars killing domestic sales and ultimately ruining the North American economy…

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**Author:** ![imported\_Jared](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_jared/32/5660_2.png) [@imported\_Jared](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_Jared)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/15 "2008-12-15T11:08:50Z")

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> [@NYSPeed Guitar Players?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-guitar-players/19523/10):
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> looks like a rx8

Not really…lol

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**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/16 "2008-12-15T12:36:07Z")

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Maybe if the domestic makers spent more time researching and implementing alternative energy powered vehicles they’d make some progress against the competing imports

But nooooo, all they’re after is nostalgia and 6L+ V8s :hsugh:

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**Author:** ![TorontoGT-R33](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torontogt-r33/32/5500_2.png) [@TorontoGT-R33](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TorontoGT-R33)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/17 "2008-12-15T15:48:25Z")

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I have searched everywhere for further info and all I found at some GM forum was that this project was cancelled by GM, however GM is working on a Buick sport car for 2010. It’s the Buick Wildcat. The Buick Wildcat was discontinued back in 1970 and they wan’t to bring it back 40 years later, I hope the Grand National doesn’t take 40 years to make a come back.

> [@What are your car plans for 07?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-are-your-car-plans-for-07/19452/76):
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> Maybe if the domestic makers spent more time researching and implementing alternative energy powered vehicles they’d make some progress against the competing imports
> 
> But nooooo, all they’re after is nostalgia and 6L+ V8s :hsugh:

Bro speak for your self, I have been in Europe over a year now and I am so tired of driving the cars here. Most cars here have nothing over a 2.0L due to the cost of gas here and due to the tax system in the EU the more cc’s your car has the more yearly tax you pay on it. Most people here drive cars under 1.8L and this is why most people have CA18’s under the hood of their S13’s here.

The gas mileage these cars get here is amazing most of them burn 7-9 liters per every 100km’s !!! My 240 burls like 7 liters from Woodbridge to Yorkdale mall LOL!.. Then again one of my pistons makes more HP them 4 of theirs LOL. Fuck fuel mileage give me more HP!!!

Most people when they think of Europe they think high end Porsches, Benz’s, BMW’s, Austin Martins, Jags, Ferraries etc. Yes you do see those cars of but nowhere near as much as these cars:

![http://misslissa.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/smart-car.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/a/f/affc5adab8712aa0d900feaf60134b349764d815.jpeg)

![http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/200807/toyota-aygo-xposed-e_460x0w.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/3/1/3144d76b3ee0ddcd9159cda6aa93e49772369f66.jpeg)

![http://jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/05/SuzukiSwift_BandW.jpg](http://jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/05/SuzukiSwift_BandW.jpg)

![http://germancarscene.com/wp-content/uploads/skoda-7-03-07.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/0/e/0ee114e4e53d2f1d4d54c44568d1b6416b39e1e2.jpeg)

These are some of the cars you are most likely to see on the road here in Europe. As you can see people here want something small and cheap on gas, in big cities parking is an issue and the cost of gas is stupid. ere 95 octane is the lowest grade you can get, 95 octane is around $2.00 per liter canadian!!! Yeah so don’t complain about paying whatever it is you are paying in Canada right now LOL. …For those who are wondering… premium gas has 106 octane here!!!

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**Author:** ![Pants](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pants/32/5590_2.png) [@Pants](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pants)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/18 "2008-12-15T16:35:49Z")

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> [@good not so average rock bands](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/good-not-so-average-rock-bands/19346/44):
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> Not really…lol

look at the body lines

rear door  
tail lights  
exhaust

look closer

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**Author:** ![spd-dmn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spd-dmn/32/5513_2.png) [@spd-dmn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spd-dmn)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guess-who-is-coming-back/120573/19 "2008-12-17T07:22:51Z")

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pff, some of those cars are awesome!

alos, youre using two different octane ratings

in north america we use PON (pump octane number)

in europe they use RON (research octane number)

100 RON is about 94 PON (give or take 2 octane points)
