# Gun Control
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [September 28, 2006, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174 "2006-09-28T15:55:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/21 "2006-09-28T19:04:32Z")
Gun control? Two hands.
If banning guns ended all gun-related violent crime, I’d be the first in line to melt mine down. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work that way. There’s a certain amount of undeniable logic to the idea that if guns are illegal then only criminals will have them.
I appreciate that there is a limited amount of regulation, so that the average hot head who loses it can’t quickly run to the store and pick himself up something. I think the systems in place are decent. Slows down the availability, while not removing them from the hands of reasonable citizens.
:In-B4-Chris-Rock-Bullet-Control-Reference:
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### Author:  [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2006, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/22 "2006-09-28T19:09:28Z")
lol…that chris Rock thing was really funny.
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### Author:  [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/23 "2006-09-28T20:28:16Z")
Im with everyone here. They are taking the guns away from the wrong people. The person who goes to the trouble of obtaining it legally is most likely not going to use it in a crime.
I could get very racist but im leaving that out for obvious reasons.
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### Author:  [@traumadog](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/traumadog)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2006, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/24 "2006-09-28T21:11:38Z")
> [@Deuce](#):
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> Gun sales are fine if they are being sold to the right type of person…
Problem is, defining that “right kind of person”. Realizing that “hey, maybe that person really shouldn’t be owning a gun” after someone else is dead doesn’t help.
And don’t tell me it doesn’t happen. There are convicted felons getting hunting licenses in the State of NY - and I’m not talking about bowhunting season, either.
Also - more food for thought. The military allows personnel to carry weapons at all times while in a combat zone (an armed society…), but regularly restricts them on stateside bases. I wonder why that is? Presumably, these people get more training on handling firearms on average than the average homeowner…
Hey - I’d be all for no gun control - but then I’d say “commit a crime with a gun equals automatic death penalty, without possibility of appeal”.
Of course, we all know that won’t happen either.
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### Author:  [@n20junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n20junkie)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2006, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/25 "2006-09-28T21:20:17Z")
> [@Evil Stang](#):
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> you can’t compare crime in the US to other countries, we have totally different views on life, different values et al…
> For those that say we don’t _need_ automatic weapons, you right, we don’t _need_ them, we don’t _need_ cars that go faster than 65 mph, we don’t _need_ books other than text books and manuals, we don’t _need_ a lot of stuff. What difference does it make if Joe law abider has an automatic weapon or not? It certainly won’t make him a criminal for having one(present laws excluded).
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> For those that think the police wil be there soon, it takes 1 second for a blade to penetrate your sternum/abdomen and hit a major organ or artery, it takes 1/100th of a secodn for a bullet to exit a gun and hit a major organ/artery. in that case, even 10 seconds is too slow to prevent major injury or death.
Thats exactly what is as gonna say, VERY well put
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### Author:  [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2006, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/26 "2006-09-28T21:22:33Z")
is a joke.
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### Author:  [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2006, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/27 "2006-09-28T21:39:23Z")
Gun control only protects the people who follow the laws.
People in NYC not allowed to have concealed weapons
I’m sure the guy who mugged me the other week follows that law… :bloated:
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### Author:  [@traumadog](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/traumadog)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2006, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/28 "2006-09-28T21:40:43Z")
> [@n20junkie](#):
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> [QUOTE=Evil Stang]…For those that think the police wil be there soon, it takes 1 second for a blade to penetrate your sternum/abdomen and hit a major organ or artery, it takes 1/100th of a secodn for a bullet to exit a gun and hit a major organ/artery. in that case, even 10 seconds is too slow to prevent major injury or death.
Thats exactly what is as gonna say, VERY well put[/QUOTE]
Then again, if I was a criminal and expected an armed victim, I’d shoot first before they’d react - which would render the whole reaction-time thing moot.
Besides, looser gun control laws give me job security… lol
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### Author:  [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2006, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/29 "2006-09-28T21:43:50Z")
> [@The\_Russian](#):
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> I could get very racist but im leaving that out for obvious reasons.
Ignorant moron.
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### Author:  [@krunklestilskin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/krunklestilskin)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2006, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/30 "2006-09-28T22:53:50Z")
> [@n20junkie](#):
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> I get pissed when anyone tries to tell me what to do or puts thier ideas into my existance. That goes for all, especially with guns.
WAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!😢
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### Author:  [@djdstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/djdstar)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2006, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/31 "2006-09-28T23:17:35Z")
> [@The\_Russian](#):
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> Im with everyone here. They are taking the guns away from the wrong people. The person who goes to the trouble of obtaining it legally is most likely not going to use it in a crime.
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> I could get very racist but im leaving that out for obvious reasons.
Because you know you’re wrong.
Good reason.
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### Author:  [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2006, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/32 "2006-09-28T23:20:33Z")
guns dont kill people.
people with mustaches kill people.
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2006, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/33 "2006-09-28T23:29:21Z")
Sight alignment and trigger control is the only gun control I know. Long live the NRA and an American’s right to own and bear arms
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### Author:  [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2006, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/34 "2006-09-29T00:03:00Z")
The right to bear arms exists so the public can protect itself from an unwanted government.(more or less)
So saying we don’t need uzis and automatic weapons is silly really.
If I need to stop the government in the future I want all the large automatic weapons I can get my hands on.:biglaugh:
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### Author:  [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2006, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/35 "2006-09-29T05:22:36Z")
> [@JEG](#):
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> fixed lol.
> I think gun laws are too strict…especially that lame ass “assault rifle” bullshit. What is the difference between a .22 rifle with a regular stock and a 20 shot clip and a.22 rifle with a folding stock, pistol grip, and flash suppressor? There isn’t any! It is like saying it should be illegal to put an aftermarket body kit on your car. **It is purely comedic**.
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> Oh, and if someone has a knife to your throat, you are suppose to grab the blade and pull it down. it will severly cut your finger/hand, but beats having your throat slit.
did you honestly just correct me and use that sentence in the same post, wow you really are special
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### Author:  [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2006, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/36 "2006-09-29T06:52:11Z")
agree with most here… gun control doesn’t work. I agree that there should be a screening/registration process, but thats about it.
and while the “fun” automatics are a little un-necessary, their is also NO reason in my mind why they should be banned. Whats next, the govt. telling you that you don’t “NEED” a modified car or you don’t “NEED” a cell phone? I’m willing to bet that there are more street racing related deaths a year than there are related to guns. The only time they (automatics) were used in recent memory in a crime was the L.A. shootout… and if memory serves me, the only casulties were the guys who robbed the bank (out of how many thousands of rounds that were fired)… go figure.
edit: I also remember hearing that when good ole slick willie signed the bill banning assault weapons, gun sales went up like 500%… lol (makes sense though I guess… just ironic)
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### Author:  [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2006, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/37 "2006-09-29T07:05:12Z")
I grew up with guns everywhere. My dad was an avid hunter and I used to help him make his own bullets and clean the guns.
As stated, gun control will hurt those who follow laws.
> [@The Russian](#):
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> _I could get very racist but im leaving that out for obvious reasons._
You say nothing of value…ever!
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### Author:  [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2006, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/38 "2006-09-29T07:12:01Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#):
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> The right to bear arms exists so the public can protect itself from an unwanted government.(more or less)
> So saying we don’t need uzis and automatic weapons is silly really.
> If I need to stop the government in the future I want all the large automatic weapons I can get my hands on.:biglaugh:
Not really, it’s a pretty paranoid ideology if you believe people should own automatic weapons because the gov’t might come after you.
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2006, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/39 "2006-09-29T07:14:28Z")
I guess most of you missed it, but the assault weapons banned signed into law by Clinton was allowed to expire.
[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5946127/](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5946127/)
I agree there should be screening, but as someone going through the process to get my NY pistol permit, it needs to be a bit easier than what this state requires. Even a software engineer from Williamsville like myself knows where I could buy an illegal handgun no later than tomorrow if I really wanted one, but because I’m a law abiding citizen it will take me almost a year and several hundred dollars just to get a permit.
As for assault weapons, I don’t see the problem. If you melted every single one down tomorrow I could still go to my local gun store, break in at night, and arm myself with enough non-assault weapons to cause all kinds of chaos. A scoped 300 Winchester Magnum and a secluded elevated firing position over a busy street could do just as much damage as an AK-47. Add in a few shotguns with buckshot for when the cops try to storm your position and you’re all set, all with legal hunting weapons. My point being the weapon is not the problem, it’s the person using it. And personally, I’d rather have lots of responsible citizens with guns and a few criminals with guns, than only having the criminals have guns.
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### Author:  [@n20junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n20junkie)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2006, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-control/18174/40 "2006-09-29T07:15:35Z")
Just like BS auto laws and such, all the government does is take people that love the things they have had all thier live, and make them criminals with these laws. I’m not going to stop building engines and cars as much as i’m going ot give up the guns i love. If i’m a criminal for posessing these things, then lock me up.
True the clinton assualt weapon ban is gone, but the state we live in decided to make thier own version, so in you live in NYS, the asssualt weapon ban never went away.
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