# Gun Crowd, lets go shooting **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 25, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616 "2008-06-25T21:16:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![n20junkie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n20junkie/32/7396_2.png) [@n20junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n20junkie)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/81 "2009-04-23T19:04:58Z")
how long of a range do you have? If its 200 yards or better i am in. ---
**Author:** ![TORQDSS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torqdss/32/5125_2.png) [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/82 "2009-04-23T19:10:48Z")
unfortunately the trees stop it around 125 but we could back up the shooting table and make it about 150-160 ---
**Author:** ![DeusExMachina](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deusexmachina/32/5036_2.png) [@DeusExMachina](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeusExMachina)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/83 "2009-04-23T19:38:30Z")
Oh, I missed this thread. Everybody join [NYFirearms.com](http://NYFirearms.com), pronto. I shoot at Canandaigua Sportsmens Club every Sunday…yeah a bit far for Buffalonians. ---
**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/84 "2009-04-24T06:30:47Z")
^^^i just joined nyfirearms. My buddy and I went last night to pick up his M4. He got a real sick setup with the Eotec, broomhandle, shure light. I know me and my buddy are going shooting this weekend regardless, but it would be nice to shoot outside. I’m down for the swamp or wherever. ---
**Author:** ![DeusExMachina](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deusexmachina/32/5036_2.png) [@DeusExMachina](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeusExMachina)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/85 "2009-04-24T06:55:44Z")
> [@Eazy716](#): > > ^^^i just joined nyfirearms. > > My buddy and I went last night to pick up his M4. He got a real sick setup with the Eotec, broomhandle, shure light. > > I know me and my buddy are going shooting this weekend regardless, but it would be nice to shoot outside. I’m down for the swamp or wherever. Lemme guess, from BGC? I like BGC, but I don’t understand some of their rifles they sell. They put all this crap on them so they can jack the price. Can I just have a normal M4 with iron sights and no flashlight, laser, ACOG, fleshlight, iPod, etc? If I want that crap I’ll put it on myself. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/86 "2009-04-24T07:01:30Z")
i want a fleshlight scope. it would be like aiming and going down on a broad all in one ---
**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/87 "2009-04-24T07:09:45Z")
> [@DeusExMachina](#): > > Lemme guess, from BGC? > > I like BGC, but I don’t understand some of their rifles they sell. They put all this crap on them so they can jack the price. Can I just have a normal M4 with iron sights and no flashlight, laser, ACOG, fleshlight, iPod, etc? If I want that crap I’ll put it on myself. ya, from BGC. He wanted to add all those pieces at some point anyway, so he decided to buy it already setup. When I bought mine, I bought the bone stock M4 and added from there. They didn’t even have a stock M4 setup to look at, which I was pretty surprised at. All of them had some kind of sight, and rail system. I tried to convince him to wait and build one, but he fell in love with it. I’m actually gonna sell my SKS and start building a 2nd AR. I can’t wait to have a telescoping stock. My fixed stock pisses me off. ---
**Author:** ![DeusExMachina](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deusexmachina/32/5036_2.png) [@DeusExMachina](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeusExMachina)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/88 "2009-04-24T08:02:11Z")
> [@Eazy716](#): > > They didn’t even have a stock M4 setup to look at, which I was pretty surprised at. All of them had some kind of sight, and rail system. I tried to convince him to wait and build one, but he fell in love with it. Yeah, thats what I’m saying. They add a bunch of crap so they can charge more. > I’m actually gonna sell my SKS and start building a 2nd AR. I can’t wait to have a telescoping stock. My fixed stock pisses me off. [/quote] Are you moving? Or buying a preban? I actually really like my ACE Skeleton stock. I don’t find the telescoping carbine stocks comfortable at all. I might build a 2nd lower with an ACE Entry Skeleton or Entry Ultralight. The full length Skeleton is good for normal shooting but I have to blade slightly to get a good cheek weld and eye relief with my 4x scope. ---
**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/89 "2009-04-24T08:04:12Z")
Am I the only one that doesn’t bother with fancy optics on my M4? ---
**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/90 "2009-04-24T08:10:02Z")
> [@DeusExMachina](#): > > Are you moving? Or buying a preban? > > I actually really like my ACE Skeleton stock. I don’t find the telescoping carbine stocks comfortable at all. I might build a 2nd lower with an ACE Entry Skeleton or Entry Ultralight. The full length Skeleton is good for normal shooting but I have to blade slightly to get a good cheek weld and eye relief with my 4x scope. I’m gonna piece together a pre-ban. I’m gonna start with just a lower, and then eventually get another upper config as well. ---
**Author:** ![DeusExMachina](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deusexmachina/32/5036_2.png) [@DeusExMachina](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeusExMachina)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/91 "2009-04-24T10:02:06Z")
> [@sureshot007](#): > > Am I the only one that doesn’t bother with fancy optics on my M4? I have a cheap (but surprisingly good) NcStar “tactical” fixed power. I really only have it so I can see where I hit. > [@Eazy716](#): > > I’m gonna piece together a pre-ban. I’m gonna start with just a lower, and then eventually get another upper config as well. Cool, how much are prebans going for now? ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/92 "2009-04-24T10:43:06Z")
Can anyone recommend a good gunsmith to have a high power scope put on my 1917 Enfield? ---
**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/93 "2009-04-24T11:35:35Z")
> [@DeusExMachina](#): > > Cool, how much are prebans going for now? I’ve seen stripped pre-ban lowers for as low as $250, but most of the ones I’ve seen are $400ish or more. I’m hoping I can luck out and find a deal at the gun show next weekend, but I won’t hold my breath. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/94 "2009-04-24T14:28:10Z")
I picked up a clean bare-bones M4 from BGC a couple years ago. They come up every now and then. I’m still up for shooting this weekend. Pref Sunday. LMK via PM if anyone gets something together. ---
**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/95 "2009-04-24T15:09:14Z")
> [@Penfold](#): > > Can anyone recommend a good gunsmith to have a high power scope put on my 1917 Enfield? Dave Zell Jr - he shoots with me in the league. I’m pretty sure he has an Enfield, so he’s familiar with them. PM me and I’ll find his contact info. ---
**Author:** ![n20junkie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n20junkie/32/7396_2.png) [@n20junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n20junkie)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/96 "2009-04-24T16:07:22Z")
> [@sureshot007](#): > > Am I the only one that doesn’t bother with fancy optics on my M4? Why have a rifle that can shoot out to 300 meters accurately when you can’t hit even a man size targets with your iron sights. The thing can group 3 inches at 300 meters. Put optics on it. Otherwise your just making noise, very expensive noise. ---
**Author:** ![DeusExMachina](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deusexmachina/32/5036_2.png) [@DeusExMachina](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeusExMachina)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/97 "2009-04-24T21:24:52Z")
I think I’ll take a trip to BGC tomorrow…need some Lee reloading stuff for Beowulf. :snky: ---
**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/98 "2009-04-24T21:40:15Z")
> [@n20junkie](#): > > Why have a rifle that can shoot out to 300 meters accurately when you can’t hit even a man size targets with your iron sights. The thing can group 3 inches at 300 meters. Put optics on it. Otherwise your just making noise, very expensive noise. Speak for yourself… ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/99 "2009-04-25T02:00:57Z")
Yeah, a good shooter can hit far targets very accurately with iron sights. ---
**Author:** ![n20junkie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n20junkie/32/7396_2.png) [@n20junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n20junkie)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616/100 "2009-04-25T05:28:24Z")
Ok ok. I am prior .mil, I can hit a man sized target at 300, but not consistantly, not every time. I am not talking hitting targets, I am talking about quality. I can make 3in (read head shots) to 500 meters all day with a ar-15 with nice optics. I will buy all the beer a man can drink in one day if he can put 3 out of 5 into a 4 in group at 200 yards with iron sights. I know the capabilities of irons, but I also know the capabilities with optics. There is no comparison for the average, good, or really good shooter. Anyone care to take me up on the bet? [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-crowd-lets-go-shooting/50616.md?page=6)