# Gun fags, come on in! Need some advice **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 28, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293 "2010-10-28T19:46:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/61 "2010-10-29T17:21:04Z")
dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb ---
**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/62 "2010-10-29T17:53:27Z")
> [@NYspeed fantasy hockey league](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-fantasy-hockey-league/36459/20): > > :rofl > > and DO WANT: > > good call! You can only legally own that if it’s preban in NY. Our state is gay and law abiding citizens can’t own weapons with magazine capacity in excess of 10 rounds unless they are made before 199x (exact date escapes me). Either way for HD use a 12 gauge shotgun really is your best choice. I would recomend a remington 870 tactical. To answer your other question about ARs being available in basically any caliber let me elaborate a little bit. The lower reciever or bottom half of the weapon is detachable from the upper which constist of the barrel and firing mechanism. It’s more complicated then that but this is the simple explanation. So you can buy a good quality lower reciever and different uppers in various calibers to suit your needs. However if you want a good quality AR I would only buy a S&W, colt or bushmaster. Those are some of the higher quality firearms. You could also look into getting a STAG piston rifle which is beneficial if you will do a lot of shooting and don’t want to worry about fouling the gas tube. Either way to end a long ranting post if you think you will ever have to use the rifle to defend yourself or someone else figure on spending over 1000 dollars for a high quality one or you may regret it later. Also you can buy an 870 tactical at dicks for about 500 bucks new, so that would be your best bet for HD use. ---
**Author:** ![Allstar\_Graphics](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/allstar_graphics/32/6287_2.png) [@Allstar\_Graphics](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Allstar_Graphics)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/63 "2010-10-29T18:17:48Z")
the furry 4 legged mammal will take care of anyone way before i could get to any of the guns that i dont have… ---
**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/64 "2010-10-30T07:40:28Z")
> [@SUNDAY 10/07 NYIRP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sunday-10-07-nyirp/36356/74): > > Have a half drunken Sarge sit outside your house all night, that’s enough to scare most anyone away. 🤣rofl:rofl Now here’s an idea, save a little more money, don’t buy firearms, move to better neighborhood… Profit? ---
**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/65 "2010-10-30T08:01:01Z")
> [@2008 STi](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2008-sti/31541/112): > > the furry 4 legged mammal will take care of anyone way before i could get to any of the guns that i dont have… same here…no wait, mine might just roll over and wait for someone to rub her belly :facepalm But on a real note if you are looking for good info on guns and home protection (no offense to anyone on here) but this isn’t the site to be asking except for a select few that actually know what they are talking about on here. Go to [NYFirearms.com](http://NYFirearms.com) and get some opinions. However my $0.02 is you need to shop around, a gun is not a toy in any way and should be taken seriously, you need to find something that YOU feel comfortable with, I mean everyones opinion is nice but if you don’t feel right shooting a gun everyone tells you to get then thats not the right one for you, which is why I love AR’s, there are so many different styles and parts you can get that you can make one fully custom to you specifications. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/66 "2010-10-30T08:20:42Z")
semi auto 12 gauge. 3inch slug, no bird pellet junk.if you cant aim on a target thats under 20ft away you shouldnt have a gun. ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/67 "2010-10-30T11:53:41Z")
> [@FS: 1000w Crunch amp \*pix\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1000w-crunch-amp-pix/36539/11): > > semi auto 12 gauge. 3inch slug, no bird pellet junk.if you cant aim on a target thats under 20ft away you shouldnt have a gun. its a little different when your in a tense situation… you don’t have the same focus ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/68 "2010-10-30T13:28:55Z")
> [@poll. nyspeed ladies want to know whos "got it goin on"?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/poll-nyspeed-ladies-want-to-know-whos-got-it-goin-on/36652/11): > > Wow there is a LOT of misinformation in here… Not meaning to offend anyone, but lets get real folks, how many of you have actually trained with any of your firearms? > > Specifically, using 5.56 for home defense and claiming it’ll go into a neighbors house? That is a complete misnomer. If you choose the correct configuration, a 5.56 round is in hydrostatic over 2850FPS and will tumble and disintegrate when hitting an object. If it falls below 2850, that is when you have to be careful of over penetration. Ammo choice, and barrel choice are HUGE factors. > > I have had extensive training with both AR-15’s and shotguns, but I still think I’d rather grab my AR for a home invasion and leave my shotgun for my wife to grab if need be. > > For home defense, I would recommend two things: A purpose-built AR-15, and a autoloader shotgun. More specifically, I’d recommend an AR in 5.56 w/ Rails, Flip Iron sights, Aimpoint H-1Micro optic, rail-mounted flashlight, angled foregrip. For the shotgun I’d recommend a Mossberg 930SPX, pretty much as is. Load it as follows: Bean Bag Round in chamber, 00/000 Buck, Slug, Buck, Slug, etc. The 930SPX is 7+1. > > Plan on spending about $600 on the SPX, and about $1400-1500 on a properly built AR-15. Thanks for the info dude! Im leaning more towards a tactical shotgun now than the rifle’s I think, especially price-wise! Do you sell the SPX’s? And can you get a pistol grip setup rather than the stock for them? ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/69 "2010-10-30T13:32:56Z")
Oh, and school a noob on what the difference is between 00 01 and yada yada shotgun shells :lol. ---
**Author:** ![Mike3](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike3/32/6350_2.png) [@Mike3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike3)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/70 "2010-10-30T13:34:30Z")
> [@SUNDAY 10/07 NYIRP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sunday-10-07-nyirp/36356/74): > > Have a half drunken Sarge sit outside your house all night, that’s enough to scare most anyone away. lol wtf ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/71 "2010-10-30T13:39:26Z")
> [@Blackberry just stopped recieving emails](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-just-stopped-recieving-emails/36741/18): > > Oh, and school a noob on what the difference is between 00 01 and yada yada shotgun shells :lol. I think thats like the style of shot. Like the difference between bird shot and turkey shot. ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/72 "2010-10-30T13:41:07Z")
Still aint helping lol, Im not sure what the spray patterns are like on any of the shots I guess is what I mean. ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/73 "2010-10-30T13:43:56Z")
> [@Blackberry just stopped recieving emails](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-just-stopped-recieving-emails/36741/20): > > Still aint helping lol, Im not sure what the spray patterns are like on any of the shots I guess is what I mean. rough info here, but it get’s you in the ballpark > **[Shotgun](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun)** > > A shotgun (also known as a scattergun, peppergun, or historically as a fowling piece) is a long-barreled firearm designed to shoot a straight-walled cartridge known as a shotshell, which discharges numerous small spherical projectiles called shot, or a single solid projectile called a slug. Shotguns are most commonly used as smoothbore firearms, meaning that their gun barrels have no rifling on the inner wall, but rifled barrels for shooting sabot slugs (slug barrels) are also available. > Sho... check the charts towards the bottom of the page. ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/74 "2010-10-30T13:45:17Z")
> **[Shotgun](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun)** > > A shotgun (also known as a scattergun, or historically as a fowling piece) is a firearm that is usually designed to be fired from the shoulder, which uses the energy of a fixed shell to fire a number of small spherical pellets called shot, or a solid projectile called a slug. Shotguns come in a wide variety of sizes, ranging from 5.5 mm (.22 inch) bore up to 5 cm (2.0 in) bore, and in a range of firearm operating mechanisms, including breech loading, single-barreled, double or combination gun, A ... Theres a section on shot. I would say you would want smaller pellets, which would be a wider spray and wouldn’t travel as far. ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/75 "2010-10-30T13:47:44Z")
Thanks fellas ---
**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/76 "2010-10-30T13:52:13Z")
Adam gunna be sprayin’ ni99azz ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/77 "2010-10-30T13:53:25Z")
Im gonna mount it to the front of the mustang, and when these stupid hondas come flying by me at the 1/8th… BANG BANG :lol ---
**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/78 "2010-10-30T14:45:51Z")
> [@Blackberry just stopped recieving emails](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/blackberry-just-stopped-recieving-emails/36741/20): > > Still aint helping lol, Im not sure what the spray patterns are like on any of the shots I guess is what I mean. They actually make ammo that is specifically designed for home defense. I bought some a while back, haven’t gotten around to target shooting any of it though to see how it really scatters. Look at the assault weapons law part of NY firearms, if I remember correclty for a semiauto shotgun there is a limitation on the magazine tube size if it has a pistol grip for it to be legal. It is something to the effect that you can’t have a mag extension tube, limiting you to 4 or 5 shells. Something to think about, also I wouldn’t think a slug would be your best option for HD use. I’m not an expert, but I would personally have some spread if I was in that kind of a close engaugement situation. Thats just my .02. Also if you have no real experience with firearms I would suggest starting with a shotgun, they are very easy to operate effectively with little to no experience. I personally like shooting trap or skeet for practice since it gives you a lot of experience tracking and leading targets. ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/79 "2010-11-02T11:07:44Z")
Went out and bought a mossberg 500 tactical with pistol grip. Absolutely love the gun, can’t wait to go Target shooting with it ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293/80 "2010-11-02T11:08:19Z")
> [@Best fitness sheridan / eggert](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/best-fitness-sheridan-eggert/36840/4): > > Went out and bought a mossberg 500 tactical with pistol grip. Absolutely love the gun, can’t wait to go Target shooting with it Just walk around Waynes backyard, you’re bound to find something to shoot. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-fags-come-on-in-need-some-advice/255293.md?page=5)