# Gun guys.. step in please.. buying my first gun **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 19, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302 "2008-06-19T21:23:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/41 "2008-06-20T06:31:55Z")
> [@justa4door](#): > > so i should try catt then… cool your still going to need good references and take a course and stuff like that tho. You have to live in that county also, you cant just go to another county and apply for a permit. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/42 "2008-06-20T06:34:26Z")
> [@justa4door](#): > > this is big IMO that is why i like the lil .22 Also doesn’t bruise your shoulder if you’re a little girly man like me! If I were to buy a gun I’d probably get, what the hell was it, don’t know if it’s even made anymore. Anyhow it was a Colt semi-auto pistol, .22 caliber, 10 shot clip. What a fun little plinker. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/43 "2008-06-20T06:41:07Z")
> [@BuickGN](#): > > your still going to need good references and take a course and stuff like that tho. You have to live in that county also, you cant just go to another county and apply for a permit. just bought a house in catt but have not changed adress yet so if it was easer i was going to keep erie adress… and i have references so i should be fine jim im also a girly man … a .20 hurts me :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/44 "2008-06-20T06:44:46Z")
yeah the permit is only for where you currently reside. ---
**Author:** ![KPTRYN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d07c76/32.png) [@KPTRYN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KPTRYN)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/45 "2008-06-20T06:58:08Z")
Ive had my kel-tec 9mm for a few years now and really cant say anything bad about it. For the price ya cant beat it. Mine is a p-11 and i think i bought it onsale for $280.00. ---
**Author:** ![ugo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ugo/32/7430_2.png) [@ugo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ugo)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/46 "2008-06-20T07:10:16Z")
> [@BuickGN](#): > > There are far better choices than a glock now a days, like the Springfield Armory XD-357, that will certainly stop anyone trying to jack yo shit. .45 \> .357 Me like big (bullet) holes. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/47 "2008-06-20T07:20:47Z")
> [@ILCisDEAD](#): > > piston grip shotgun… nothing says get the fuck out of my house fast than hearing the shotgun pump lol **TRUTH** ![http://www.dlask.com/images/tsg-01.jpg](http://www.dlask.com/images/tsg-01.jpg) Nothing beats a 12g for home defense. Get a .22LR for fun, and get a Remington 870 for if the shit hits the fan. ---
**Author:** ![ugo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ugo/32/7430_2.png) [@ugo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ugo)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/48 "2008-06-20T07:26:03Z")
> [@Avatar](#): > > **TRUTH** > > Nothing beats a 12g for home defense. Get a .22LR for fun, and get a Remington 870 for if the shit hits the fan. That long stock could get a bit cumbersome in a small room or hallway. I like a no-shoulder pistol grip. ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/49 "2008-06-20T07:37:31Z")
> [@ugo](#): > > That long stock could get a bit cumbersome in a small room or hallway. I like a no-shoulder pistol grip. that was originally the plan but in all reality, i’ve never had an intruder and id be hesitant to ever pull a gun on somebody, its just piece of mind. That being said, that is why my house and garage are alarmed. I dont see a shotgun being as much fun to shoot as a carbine at the range. ---
**Author:** ![TORQDSS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torqdss/32/5125_2.png) [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/50 "2008-06-20T07:58:32Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > 1. +1 to ugo. Shotgun shot is the best option for home defense. > > 2. piFUCKINGcard. How many of you first time gun owners looking for something for “home protection” are actually just justifying having a cool gun? Ever had an intruder? If you ever do GTFO if at all possible. Confrontation is for only when absolutely unavoidable. Too much can go wrong. What if he’s a faster draw than you? What if it’s a buddy playing a trick on you? There’s no such thing as a movie-style standoff in that situation. You never point a gun at anything you don’t intend to put a hole in. > > 3. Get what you want. Find/make friends with more experienced gun owners who are willing to teach you safe handling. Keep that motherfucker locked up. > > 4. You’re going to want to shoot it. A lot. Target shooting is a lot of fun. Keep the price of ammo in mind. +1,000,000,000 for FRY. you need to go do some shooting with guys who have plenty of experience. Myself, J&J and some of my friends (who are cops) go shooting quite a bit and your welcome to come. I have been around guns since I was able to hold one and so have the people I shoot with. Granted if someone did try to harm my wife or me I would be more than willing to drop them but like FRY said, that should be a last resort. Don’t buy a gun because it’s “cool”. Buy one you like and will be comfortable shooting. My first gun was a .22 that had an 8 round clip, removable barrel (survival gun for hikers/campers) and could shoot all day without jamming. I was 14 or 15 and I loved it because it was fun, not because it was “cool”. ---
**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/51 "2008-06-20T08:57:35Z")
Ive paid for my pistol permit, just havent taken it yet. I have my eye on a glock 23 .40 cal. Int he mean time, I do want a pump shot gun for home protection. ---
**Author:** ![Johnnylude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2acd7d/32.png) [@Johnnylude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johnnylude)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/52 "2008-06-20T09:00:03Z")
Springfield Armory XD-45… That was my first gun. ---
**Author:** ![TORQDSS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torqdss/32/5125_2.png) [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/53 "2008-06-20T09:34:44Z")
XD-45 is nice. I had a hard time picking between the 1911 and the H+K. I ended up getting the .45 Heckler and Koch. It freakin rocks too, smooth as silk and deadly accurate. ---
**Author:** ![skatanic28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@skatanic28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/skatanic28)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/54 "2008-06-20T09:47:10Z")
what are the laws regarding shotguns and pistol grips in NYS? i thought there were a few restrictions ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/55 "2008-06-20T09:51:17Z")
I listened to quite extensive show on using firearms for home protection… I guess home owners that used more exotic ammo/guns against criminals were facing legal issues and the recommendation has been using the same gun/ammo combination as the police… I will try to dig up the article/show Stupid lawyers ---
**Author:** ![skatanic28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@skatanic28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/skatanic28)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/56 "2008-06-20T09:52:53Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > 1. piFUCKINGcard. How many of you first time gun owners looking for something for “home protection” are actually just justifying having a cool gun? Ever had an intruder? If you ever do GTFO if at all possible. Confrontation is for only when absolutely unavoidable. Too much can go wrong. What if he’s a faster draw than you? What if it’s a buddy playing a trick on you? There’s no such thing as a movie-style standoff in that situation. You never point a gun at anything you don’t intend to put a hole in. ehh, can’t say i agree with this. he is in my house with malicious intent. my family \> his life. ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/57 "2008-06-20T09:55:39Z")
> [@skatanic28](#): > > what are the laws regarding shotguns and pistol grips in NYS? > > i thought there were a few restrictions cant have a sawed off shotgun, thats illegal ---
**Author:** ![skatanic28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@skatanic28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/skatanic28)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/58 "2008-06-20T09:56:21Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > I listened to quite extensive show on using firearms for home protection… > > I guess home owners that used more exotic ammo/guns against criminals were facing legal issues and the recommendation has been using the same gun/ammo combination as the police… > > I will try to dig up the article/show > > Stupid lawyers i remember reading the article about a guy that killed an attacker with a f/a rifle. that didnt turn out so well for him ![http://smiliesftw.com/x/happysad.gif](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/8/1/8142f5e397cd76ee1ac5f47829bf74b5ece68d67.gif) ---
**Author:** ![skatanic28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@skatanic28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/skatanic28)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/59 "2008-06-20T10:02:01Z")
> [@BuickGN](#): > > cant have a sawed off shotgun, thats illegal seems similar to the rifle restrictions: > An “assault weapon” means (a) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (iii) a bayonet mount; (iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; (v) a grenade launcher; or **(b) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; (iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine** ---
**Author:** ![SevenStars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@SevenStars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SevenStars)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302/60 "2008-06-20T10:03:03Z")
> [@skatanic28](#): > > what are the laws regarding shotguns and pistol grips in NYS? > > i thought there were a few restrictions The barrel has to be at least 18.5 inches and the overall length cant be shorter than 31? inches I think thats it for regulations on them if I’m remembering correctly [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gun-guys-step-in-please-buying-my-first-gun/50302.md?page=4)